Save Hatfield Buick Campaign under way in Redlands

Full story: San Bernardino County Sun

The City Council and the Chamber of Commerce started a show of support for Hatfield Buick and community leaders are following suit.
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Tom

AOL

#41 May 25, 2009
truthtobetold is a coward.
DN I am

Loma Linda, CA

#42 May 25, 2009
I have already made some suggestiong, but the city council can't comprehend anything beyond attempting to pull the wool over the people's eyes, so since they are not capable of consindering the minor step I recommended, then I know better than to throw my pearls before swine. I have put a lot of beneficial information on line which tells me that you missed it. I do have quite a vision that can help this town that incorporates many positive solutions for generating both short and long term benefits. It is not the right time for me to share it all due to the lack of integrity on the part of the current city council, so the first step is that the people must replace them with people of integrity and intelligence who have the determination to turn this city around. For one, public safety does come first. A police force that is overloaded only assists the criminals, not the people. When public safety is adequately supplied with the man/woman power and the resources to rid the criminal elements in this town with the involvement of the community to help in areas such as the step by step program and others that help people improve which will require more community involvement (and yes I have a plan that can be implemented to help here, and I have already let Chief B and a Judge know about I do, but need to meet with them this summer to go over the details), then people from outside will be more willing to move here as people like crime free areas. I have many POSITIVE ideas beyond this, and any good person who sees all of it would have no choice but to agree because these ideas are all steps in the right direction. Anyhow, the long term big one would require me to have an attorney to ensure no one tries to dupe me, and then I need investors and city leader involvement. Then, together, we can pull it off. I already said that my big idea would not only bring in people from surrounding areas and other U.S. states, but it will also bring in people from all over the world. It incorporates many things, some old combined with something origional. I need to go right now. Short term, I have ideas for bringing in money fast while providing something positive for the people of this town to enjoy. I hope this helps your brain to start rejuvinating as brain cells do that when the mind is active in a positive way. I really do have massive work to do for school. I will be finished for this quarter by June 20th. As for el stupo city council-lost cause- positive!I have my reasons for saying that, but don't ask as I don't let all my secrets be known! I'm sure you don't either.
arbeD wrote:
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Since I don't have a brain
DN I am

Loma Linda, CA

#43 May 25, 2009
oops,suggestions (Positive is good-it's uplifting!) City council lacks morals and engages in unethical behavior as evident in their fight to compensate for their inadequacies resulting in their overcompensation which i knew they would do which is why I warned then before hand so they could reevaluate where they were heading. Their indiscriminate slash and burn inept tactics have resulted in dividing this city, not bringing it together in a positive fashion. They are a lost cause. Rid them from office ASAP!!!
longhair

Okemos, MI

#44 May 26, 2009
Doctor Hugh Jass wrote:
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Why buy a buick when you can get a better Japanese car for the same money?
BTW it WAS stupid to have the same car under 2 different names i.e. Chevy Chevette, Pontiac T1000
I guess you dont read much or watch the news?
Buick was just ranked the most reliable vehicle over every other vehicle including Toyota,Lexus and your beloved piece of crap Hon DUH!

“Timing & Distance!”

Since: Jul 08

San Bernardino, CA

#45 May 26, 2009
longhair wrote:
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Buick was just ranked the most reliable vehicle over every other vehicle including Toyota,Lexus.
Buick only took the catagory - MIDSIZE CAR - for the Buick LaCrosse while Toyota took 5 catagories.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Savingan...
DN I am

Loma Linda, CA

#46 May 26, 2009
Don't believe everything you read. I've had a Honda and a Toyota, and the Honda was the best car I have ever had. I have owned a Chevy, a Mercury, an Opal, a Hundai, a VW (second best), a Rambler, and a Volvo in my family, and more. I'd take the Honda any day over even the Lexus as I know someone who had one of them and it had problems.
longhair wrote:
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I guess you dont read much or watch the news?
Buick was just ranked the most reliable vehicle over every other vehicle including Toyota,Lexus and your beloved piece of crap Hon DUH!
Doctor Hugh Jass

Pacific Palisades, CA

#47 May 27, 2009
Rich Smith wrote:
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Buick only took the catagory - MIDSIZE CAR - for the Buick LaCrosse while Toyota took 5 catagories.
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Savingan...
Way to go!
Taxed

Plainfield, IL

#48 May 27, 2009
The dealership may not make a difference. Once Government Motors is in control who will want to buy the cars anyway. Unless of course the ownership being a monopoly there may not be another choice but the gubermint designed car. Those politicians designing cars??? Aren't they ranked below car salesmen and lawyers?
A Nony Moose

Lake Arrowhead, CA

#49 May 27, 2009
I am a retired auto technician/shop owner. ASE Master Certified. Here is my nickels worth (inflation, you know).

ALL cars break down. Here is a general vies.

European make cars are usually good for 40 to 60 thousand reasonably trouble free miles. 10% less for English cars. 25% less for French or Italian cars. 25% more for VW. No matter what brand, parts are ridiculously expensive, as is the labor.

American branded cars are usually good for 75 to 100 thousand miles before things start to go. This is after the 6 to 10 trips for warranty repairs the first year. There are exceptions of course. We all know about the unrepairable car that was scrapped after 20,000 miles. I did have a customer with a bare-bones Jeep Wrangler that had nothing but oil changes for years. The first brake replacement was done at 162,000 miles. Parts are usually not too expensive and labor is reasonable.

Japanese branded cars will usually go 125,000 miles with no problems at all. Many can hit 200,000 miles with nothing but maintenance. the best I ever saw was an Infiniti with 340,000 miles and had needed nothing but maintenance. It did go downhill fast after that, though.

Personally, I have a Cadillac (185k), a Toyota truck (158k) and a Ford diesel truck (193k).

As always, you pay your money and take your pick. Don't try to save on maintenance, it costs way more in the long run if you don't take care of your car.
Tom

AOL

#50 May 27, 2009
Here we have a goverment business plan, to wipe out un-wanted lenders. The bond holders are falling for the trap. Obama is smart enough not to take on a contract without a Judge created by law to make those choices. What the bond holders are going to end up with is stock of a failed company which will be worth zero. If this new business model works they can expect a long time in waiting with zero income. They should have sold months ago on the secondary market. At least they would have received some cash.
I think for lenders to go back to GM, they will need to trust someone. Most likkey it will not be the UAW or the Goverment. That means hold your pocket tax payer, we might have another Amtrak
La Tejana

San Bernardino, CA

#51 May 28, 2009
Messiah wrote:
What a waste of time. It's well known that GM is closing under-performing dealerships, so why put so much effort into saving a dealership that isn't selling cars? GM isn't forcing them to close their doors completely, they can continue selling used cars or apply for a franchise for another brand.
I know for a fact that if it were just the number of cars sold there is another Buick dealership within a hour's drive from Hatfield who has been selling fewer cars. However, they were not closed because of their GM connections.
La Tejana

San Bernardino, CA

#52 May 28, 2009
Messiah wrote:
What a waste of time. It's well known that GM is closing under-performing dealerships, so why put so much effort into saving a dealership that isn't selling cars? GM isn't forcing them to close their doors completely, they can continue selling used cars or apply for a franchise for another brand.
If the closures were based on number of sales alone, there is another Buick dealership within an hour away from Hatfield that sells fewer cars should have been closed.
La Tejana

San Bernardino, CA

#53 May 28, 2009
If the closures were based on the number of sales alone, there is another Buick dealership whin an hour away from Hatfield that sells fewer cars that should havae been closed. The service provided by Hatfield cannot be matched by any other dealership in the area.
I live here

Redlands, CA

#54 May 14, 2011
I Sell Redlands Short wrote:
The reason Redlands is in such sad financial shape is embodied in this letter writing charade. In stead of looking to the future, they serve Kool Aid from a carefully reedited past.
Face(book) it, the Hatfield's may be very nice people, but they've been selling vehicles that are so yesterday: big, inefficient, gas guzzling dinosaurs. The organizers want taxpayers to subsidize a failing business because they are friends and belong to Rotary.
What would you expect from a Chamber of Commerce that gave its Man_Of_The_Year Award to a guy who directed the failure of not one, but two local banks.(I would have given him the Willie Sutton award.- you can look it up on Wikipedia.)
I have a Buick Century. At 65 MPH I get 32 MPG. Not too shabby for traveling in comfort in a nice car.

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