Medical marijuana is not OK - The Par...

Medical marijuana is not OK - The Park Record

There are 20 comments on the Park Record story from Jul 10, 2009, titled Medical marijuana is not OK - The Park Record. In it, Park Record reports that:

A California man allowed to possess medical marijuana in his home state will avoid jail time after he was caught in the Park City area with about three ounces of the leafy, green substance.

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bob

Winter Park, FL

#1 Jul 10, 2009
Good way to waste taxpayer money
sniffledog

Glendale, AZ

#2 Jul 10, 2009
Medical marijuana is not OK...it's grrrrrreat!

however, the real goal is to see our government regulate and legalize properly documented and accurately labeled marijuana for ALL responsible adults regardless of whether it's for medical or recreational use. part of dem regulations should include an acceptable level of THC that a person can have in their system without being considered under the influence. zero is too low since the actual effects of THC will have worn off within hours even though THC usually remains detectable in a person's system for at least a couple weeks and sometimes more then a month. how would law enforcement determine who is under the influence of marijuana even though there is currently no breathalyzer-like device for marijuana? if a suspect of DUI fails a roadside test (walk a line, close your eyes and touch your nose, etc.) then issue a mouth swab test that detects the presence of THC (they exist and are in use already) and if a DUI suspect's swab test shows positive for THC then take them to a medical facility for a blood test. currently (as far as i know) a blood test is the only reliable way to determine an accurate level of THC in a person's system. again, only require a blood test at a medical facility if the roadside swab test shows positive for THC. all that is really needed in order to make such a policy work is some reasonable research to determine what the acceptable level of THC should be. those who never use marijuana would never come up positive on a mouth swab test for THC and thus would not have to worry about having to give blood if/when they fail other roadside tests. those of us who want marijuana legalized will just have to deal with having to give blood if/when we do fail roadside tests until a better, while still reliable, way is developed. if a person's THC levels are lower then the acceptable level to be driving (when one is determined) then they shouldn't be charged with a DUI (assuming they aren't drinking or taking other intoxicants classified under DUI laws). giving blood definitely does kinda suck but it is also definitely better then the current "alternative" of getting charged for having any level of THC in your system whether you are actually under the influence or not.
shonuf

Kaysville, UT

#3 Jul 10, 2009
When is Utah going to follow California's lead and legalize medical marijuana? Instead of meddling, our government should take advantage of this tax revenue stream.
Jeff

Excelsior, MN

#4 Jul 10, 2009
Right, I smoke a joint 3 days ago. Today I get pulled over, in my state, for a broken taillight. As a state legal medical marijuana patient I was in possession of below the legal amount of medical marijuana. Yet the officer performs field sobriety tests, and rightly so. I pass the first test so the officer performs 2 more. Again, I pass them with flying colors. Nonetheless the officer issued me a DUI. It went to court and the judge ruled that I was not 'an impaired driver' even though evidence of marijuana was in my bloodstream. This is a true story it just happened in California.
sniffledog

Glendale, AZ

#5 Jul 11, 2009
Jeff wrote:
Right, I smoke a joint 3 days ago. Today I get pulled over, in my state, for a broken taillight. As a state legal medical marijuana patient I was in possession of below the legal amount of medical marijuana. Yet the officer performs field sobriety tests, and rightly so. I pass the first test so the officer performs 2 more. Again, I pass them with flying colors. Nonetheless the officer issued me a DUI. It went to court and the judge ruled that I was not 'an impaired driver' even though evidence of marijuana was in my bloodstream. This is a true story it just happened in California.
then i heart california judges and california law. so was the charge scrapped? if yes, then i am happy/jealous, if no, then i am a sad panda. also, did the officer give a reason why you were charged?
i'm guessing the reason a DUI would have been issued in that situation could be classified as "if i can never be high then neither can you". can california police officers be allowed to use medical marijuana recommendations? if they can legally drink alcohol when off duty then they should have the rest of the same intoxicant related rights. fair is fair and even though some police officers are known to view marijuana as a "scourge", or similar negative connotation, on society for the reasonable ones who do not the choice should be there. without good police officers who really understand what right and wrong is this country would have fallen off the maps decades ago.

i believe in law and order but i also believe the current laws against marijuana are unjust, unfair, and better described as laws against people. let reasonable people be people. humans have used, and always will use, substances and activities to change their view upon their surroundings and life in general when they personally feel it is appropriate to do so. most people learn to do so responsibly and respectfully, that is part life, how you learn to live it. one of the best parts about living is making choices and then learning from those choices.

let people be people, as long as their choices do no infringe on others' rights, freedoms, or personal property people should have their own personal freedoms to make their own personal choices.

effectively regulate and then legalize properly documented and accurately labeled marijuana for responsible adults and then adjust the regulations accordingly when needed.
Kionanr

West Jordan, UT

#6 Jul 11, 2009
I smkoed sone tosay two. Haev bene four yaers. I'm ok. Ifs the dum ones wood only see the real trtuh.
New In Town

Ogden, UT

#7 Jul 11, 2009
The judge "just rolled his eyes"?? What splendid courtroom demeanor. Does the judge have a medical license? Any medical training? Any sense of obligation to respect those appearing in his court? The article does not state that the driver was under the influence of marijuana while driving - it indicates he was simply transporting a substance that was legal prescribed and sold to him. Sounds like his biggest crime was speeding, for which he should pay the appropriate fine. What a ridiculous case.
Towlie

Salt Lake City, UT

#8 Jul 11, 2009
3 ounces of pot seems to be a bit much for back pain. I think there are practical uses for medical marijuana (and flat out stupid uses). I had a friend in California when I lived there years back who was going through chemotherapy. Just the thought of going into her chemo treatment made her vomit. She found that pot got rid of the nausea and gave her back a little bit of her appetite so she could eat.

Smoking pot to passively fight back pain seems stupid. I messed my back up pretty bad at work earlier this year. I didn't just sit around and smoke out of my 3 oz of pot that Arnie gave me. Instead I took an active approach and went to physical therapy and saw a massage therapist once a week. 4 weeks later I fully healed, no more pain and no drugs needed. 3 oz of pot.......sounds like he's just abusing it to me!
Anonymous Freedom-lover

Boynton Beach, FL

#9 Jul 11, 2009
Sounds like an auto 'hassle-stop' by over-zealous police, who saw out-of-state plates and decided to trample the Fourth Amendment. The guy is passing through, and has his medicine with him. Big deal. They force a consent to search on pretext, and BANG: we're really winning the war on drugs !! You're tax dollars at work protecting you from dangerous criminals. Sounds like Utah is Satan's favorite State, next to Florida.
Esoteric Knowledge

San Francisco, CA

#10 Jul 11, 2009
The judge is obviously a uneducated, infantile bigot. Drug users are the final class of people who will gain respect, civil rights and freedom in this country. This is a list of the groups who will gain civil rights from first to last: women, blacks, homosexuals, then, finally, drug users.

The Government is acting as God. It is a lie that any Government has the authority to deny you a plant! The Government is not the middle-man between you and God! How weak and easily toppled do you think Governments are to want to keep a plant away from you? Governments are interfering with God's Will by acting like this!

What has God given you that Governments take away?
Marijuana.
The Government is not God!

Marijuana is so terrifying to all governments because marijuana use will cause people to become more intellegent, thoughtful and more moral. We will put human values up front and create a true society. Marijuana expands the human endevour, more than watching TV would ever do. People will rise up and demand civil rights, truth and freedom, people will question the government, just like they did in the 60s.

Drug users are a discriminated class! You can't even get a job if your a drug user! Even blacks and homosexuals have a better chance than you of getting a job!...Your not even judged on your individual merit!...The Government of the United States wants you dead in the street!
Patriot

Boynton Beach, FL

#11 Jul 11, 2009
This is neo-Fascism. Left overs from the Bush era. 17th century moralistic hypocrites. Ruining America. Go back to Nazi-Germany Mr. Brickey and Judge Lubeck.
Sub Herbin

Salt Lake City, UT

#12 Jul 11, 2009
Judge Lubeck is a former federal prosecutor.
Refresher course:
Do not give verbal consent to an officer to search your vehicle. Ask "Am I free to leave, officer?"
Do not perform field sobriety tests. You are under no legal obligation to do them.
sofa king

Kaysville, UT

#13 Jul 11, 2009
Esoteric Knowledge wrote:
The judge is obviously a uneducated, infantile bigot. Drug users are the final class of people who will gain respect, civil rights and freedom in this country. This is a list of the groups who will gain civil rights from first to last: women, blacks, homosexuals, then, finally, drug users.
The Government is acting as God. It is a lie that any Government has the authority to deny you a plant! The Government is not the middle-man between you and God! How weak and easily toppled do you think Governments are to want to keep a plant away from you? Governments are interfering with God's Will by acting like this!
What has God given you that Governments take away?
Marijuana.
The Government is not God!
Marijuana is so terrifying to all governments because marijuana use will cause people to become more intellegent, thoughtful and more moral. We will put human values up front and create a true society. Marijuana expands the human endevour, more than watching TV would ever do. People will rise up and demand civil rights, truth and freedom, people will question the government, just like they did in the 60s.
Drug users are a discriminated class! You can't even get a job if your a drug user! Even blacks and homosexuals have a better chance than you of getting a job!...Your not even judged on your individual merit!...The Government of the United States wants you dead in the street!
wow.
Utarded

United States

#14 Jul 13, 2009
Might as well be herion in this state.
Utarded

United States

#15 Jul 13, 2009
It's weird how getting wasted and driving a car is normal but smoking a j and relaxing is like shooting someone.
cyndi

West Jordan, UT

#16 Jul 13, 2009
New In Town wrote:
The judge "just rolled his eyes"?? What splendid courtroom demeanor. Does the judge have a medical license? Any medical training? Any sense of obligation to respect those appearing in his court?
my thoughts exactly.
matt

Downey, CA

#17 Jul 14, 2009
BULLSH*T this is tyranny. Im so sick of the stigma about marijuana. It should've died in the 60's what is wrong with all the stupid sheeple who allow oppression to continue. It is sick and immoral. Marijuana and entheogenic substances should all be legal and a regular part of a healthy spiritual and philosophical life. It would be a much better world, like it is supposed to be. That being said, screw Utah and their fake cult "religion" created by an occultist storyteller and his nonsense fake book of the bible.
matt

Downey, CA

#18 Jul 14, 2009
...and no they shouldn't "Use marijuana to help the budget by taxing it." Taxes are not a good thing and are insane in most of the developed world. You should not pay 60% of your income to a government that blows most of it on murdering and enslaving foreign governments like Iraq (not to mention ripping open their markets to our unstoppable corporate competition). This world sickens me. Smoke weed, become enlightened, and stop letting them use you! Don't pay taxes on weed and don't get caught! If you are on jury duty for any BS crime, victimless crimes, drug possession, any IRS BS, prostitution, any thing that IS NONE OF YOUR G*DD*MN BUSINESS, then just say Not Guilty. If everyone does their part we can restore justice to this once great nation, and go back to freedom from corporate fascism.=D
matt

Downey, CA

#19 Jul 14, 2009
Esoteric Knowledge, you are a good man. If there is any good in the world, the people will be victorious. Or we will die trying to restore peace and justice to this planet. STOP LIVING A 9-5 SLAVE LIFE. Its bad for you. Smoke weed and find a cheap place to live, don't have any more damn kids cause the world is overpopulated and its driving living costs up, get off the grid (as much as possible), pay as little taxes as possible, and declare as much of your own individual sovereignty as possible. and most of all, DO NOT EVER waste money on overpriced goods and expensive brands of products. This is the worst tool of enslavement since the invention of taxation. Also, think for yourself. READ, don't listen to Faux News or CNN. EVER. They are LYING TO YOU. Teach your kids the truth about marijuana and other GOOD drugs and the SPIRITUAL and PHILOSOPHICAL context they are to be used responsibly in.
deaconblues

Park City, UT

#20 Jul 14, 2009
Wow...
some pretty rabid support for reefer here. I mean, seriously, did this kid think that a CA medical marijuana card would stand in UT? or anywhere outside of CA for that matter?

...and 3 ounces? That is some heavy duty, full on party level back pain...

...so much hate and verbal violence for a bunch of peaceful stoners...

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