Laszlo

Milford, CT

#226 Dec 6, 2009
WhiteOak, Sorry to see all your problem. Your service issues looks terrible on carfax . Up to now trade in was a
simple process without loosing a lot.
My " Car " was younger but I already forgot all my issues since traded in months ago and I'm happy with my Toyota.
BeeJ

Melbourne, Australia

#227 Dec 10, 2009
Hey there MMD09

I feel your pain mate. My oil consumption started like yours with my '03 model at around 40,000km (I bought it new) but has gotten a lot worse recently. It's only done 90,000km but my top ups in the last few months have been after: 5000km, 3000km, 2700km, 900km, 2000km, 3000km, 1000km, 1500km and now 800km. I've been through all the checks, the tests etc from the dealer. I've even had it checked out elsewhere for leaks and there are none. It's just burning it erratically. I'm so over it but cannot convince the other half to dump the car and go back to a Japanese make.....and don't get me started on the issues we have had with the CVT 'box....
MMD09 wrote:
I have 2008 A4 - same oli consumption problems. Put one litre in at 3000 km's and now at 6500 km's the light is oil light is on (again). Rang the delear they said they'll check it, but if they find no defect, that I will be charged for the service. After reading this, how the heck has AUDI gotten away with this? I had a 'cheap' japanese car (my first car) prior to A4 and never such a problem. Very disappointing to have put oil in every 3-4 months and the likely future $$$ repair costs.
Gomer

Appleton, WI

#228 Dec 28, 2009
"k" is the abbreviation for 1000. As in "km" = 1000 meters.
kB: kilobytes
kW: 1000 watts
Most cars are listed as xyK miles, just like you wrote. Pretty obvious.
As far as oil change intervals go. Yes, it's 10,000 miles, not kilometers. So 16,094km. I know, I've reset the computer's service interval many times after changing my oil.
Paul wrote:
I have a 2006 A4 Avant 2.0T with 66k miles on it. I have never had a problem with oil loss or burning. I change the oil and filter religiously every 6k miles, I occasionally use a motor flush with the oil change to prevent sludge build up. I make sure to use a quality synthetic oil such as Mobil 1 or Quaker State. I think SteveCat may have been misinformed about oil change intervals. This is probably due to the public's common practice of using the letter "k" to indicate 1,000. The letter "k" is commonly used to indicate 1 kilometer in the same manner that mi equals one mile. Europeans who come to America must be really confused when they see a used car for sale that has 28k on it-they would assume that's 28,000 kilometers not 28,000 miles, but we've bastardized the "k" because we don't have a convenient abbreviation for 1,000.
The correct service interval is 10k which really equals 10,000 kilometers. 10,000 kilometers=6,000 miles. If you have a mechanic who's been breathing too much exhaust he may get all this confused and think you should change the oil every 10,000 miles which is really 4,000 mile past the proper interval.
Now, if I can only solve my P0299 Turbo underboost error that seems to occur only at highway speeds.
Owwdee

San Francisco, CA

#229 Dec 28, 2009
Glad I found this post. I drive a 2007 A4 2.0 T and I have to top it off with oil every 1,000 miles. The brakes also squeal, but that's another story. For both problems I get a pat response from Audi when I complain: It's normal. They don't even offer to investigate. It seems they are so used to hearing the problem and they seem to think a newer car (this started at 2,000 miles) needs more oil than Dick Cheney. Someone I know has a 2000 Mercedes C230 Kompressor (similar engine size and type) that never needs oil and it has more than 60,000 miles on it. Audi has built and sold a defective product.
del

Brea, CA

#230 Dec 28, 2009
I have a 2008 Audi A4 and every 1200 miles the Oil light comes on and I go into the dealer and they add oil. They also say it's normal...they also refuse to give me paperwork...what are your thoughts???
Owwdee

San Francisco, CA

#231 Dec 29, 2009
del -- have you looked into California lemon law? I haven't investigated fully (hands too full with other things than to worry about car) but I want to take a look to see if Audi qualifies. This is the same engine used in Passat, Jetta GLI and VW GTIs so there are lots of us with this problem (potentially). We must be able to do something!
Bob

Guangzhou, China

#232 Dec 29, 2009
I have an Audi A6 2007 with 2.0 Tfsi engine. I have clocked about 60K miles and I have started to top up the oil after every 3K miles. They now tell me its an oil leak and the seals have to be replaced so that may be the problem. I never had this problem before ever. Audi's are pretty high maintenance cars ( I had to replace 2 door locks and 1 boot lock). But the engine never gave me any probems at all.
jeff

Brattleboro, VT

#233 Dec 30, 2009
Update on my post, a bit ago, about my wife's '08 A4 2.0T.

At 9000 miles on the 15k oil change, the "min" light came on. I added about 8oz. to limp into the 25k service at our local Audi dealer. That service was performed this week, and it included the first conversation I've had about service/maintenance with an Audi rep since my wife bought this CPO with 12k on it.

Summary goes like this:

Oil consumption? Normal up to about a quart per 1200 miles.

Why? High compression, high temp., turbo charged 4 cylinder with a very thin oil. Some lubes the turbo, but the bulk of the loss is right out the exhaust pipe via rings, etc.

Don't customers complain? Yes.

Solution? Buy a different car if you don't want to add oil in between services.

Audi's view? That is Audi's view, in the cases they've seen where complaints are beyond the annoyance factor.

Crank case breather valve? Not that many, and not believed to be related to the general oil consumption of the engine, although it would add to it significantly.

I was impressed with the service reps candor. If my wife's car was blowing through a quart every 5k or less, I think I'd be less immpressed with candor and more inclined to move through Lemon Law process. ;)
Roman

United States

#234 Dec 31, 2009
I have a 2008 audi a4, since i got it it ate about a bottle of oil every 2000 miles, i got it new and now have 50x miles, but have extended warrantee till 100, what should i do? will they get me a new engine?
WhiteOak

United States

#235 Jan 5, 2010
Going through my next oil consumption test as part of my 25k service visit to the dealer. After they replaced the defective cylinder head cover and crank case breather valves at about 23k miles I had the min oil light came on after 1040 miles.
We'll see what engine parts they replace this time...
I will also talk to Audi North America again for what it's worth but all they seem to do is beat up on the dealer for not taking care of the customer which is definitely not the case for me.
Fellow A4 owner

Wilmington, DE

#236 Jan 6, 2010
I think you are all stupid. I hope your class action thingy as Peter put it fails miserably. It the car runs well, mileage is where it should be, and no leaks on the floor then it appears everything is in spec as Audi stated. Lawsuits are the downfall of this country and all the people who feel they should be owed piles of money bc their luxury sedan needs oil added every now and then should be shot. Boo hoo. Its a Turbo engine...turbos use up oil...happens in most Turbo vehicles. And it is a high compression engine for performance...sometimes oil is used up.
Whitesnake

Wilmington, DE

#237 Jan 6, 2010
Fellow A4 Owner...you suck...and you are the stupid one! Turd face.
Eddie35

Canberra, Australia

#238 Jan 6, 2010
If you had bothered to read all the posts, you would see that it is not limited to turbo charged engines. Normally aspirated 2.0 Audi motors have the SAME issue.
Fellow A4 owner wrote:
I think you are all stupid. I hope your class action thingy as Peter put it fails miserably. It the car runs well, mileage is where it should be, and no leaks on the floor then it appears everything is in spec as Audi stated. Lawsuits are the downfall of this country and all the people who feel they should be owed piles of money bc their luxury sedan needs oil added every now and then should be shot. Boo hoo. Its a Turbo engine...turbos use up oil...happens in most Turbo vehicles. And it is a high compression engine for performance...sometimes oil is used up.
Laszlo

Milford, CT

#239 Jan 6, 2010
Any engine, burning oil is in my book is a JUNK
/except the 2 cycle ones/
Nad

Menlo Park, CA

#240 Jan 6, 2010
My 2007 A4 CVT 2.0T has the same problem. Reading the posts here leads to me think that it is a 'Cylinder' issue. If it is, then it is not something that Audi can fix with a recall. I don't buy the 'turbo' issue. It also sounds like that only some of the manufactured engines have this problem. Must be a tolerance issue. I wonder if VW Jettas and others Adudis/VWs with the same engine block have the same problem?
Ricardo

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#241 Jan 6, 2010
chris wrote:
I have a 2006 A4 2.0T that burns 1 to 1.5 quarts of oil every 5000 miles. My dealership says its normal, but everybody else say noway. Anyone else having problems or is this normal?
I have a 2008 A4 2.0 and it burns a quart of oil any where from 1,500 to 2,500 miles. I have to watch it reguarly to make sure I dont' burn up my engine. Again the dealer says its normal.
WhiteOak

United States

#242 Jan 7, 2010
The issue seems to be limited to the 2.0T FSI engines going into the A4 sedan only. The same engine for the VW Passat, Jetta, and Golf don't seem to have that issue. That would lead me to believe that there is something wrong either with the design portion that is actually Audi A4 specifc or with the specific manufacturing line at the VW engine plant in Hungary where these engines are built. If the latter is the case, it is very difficult to comprehend why Audi is unwilling to fix it. If the former is true, they need to fire some of their engineers as apparently the redesigned 211 HP version for the 2009/2010 model has the same issue (which if I am not mistaken is the only engine offered in the US right now for the A4).
Either way, it is NOT NORMAL for an egine to "use" 1 quart of oil every 1000 to 1500 miles. There are lots of other high performance turbo engines out there in all the competitions' cars and none seem to have the same problems.
If it were normal even by Audi standards, Audi would not authorize all the oil consumption tests, crank case breather valve, cylinder head cover, piston ring, complete turbo and sometimes full engine replacements under their factory warranty.
All they seem to try to do is buy time and/or wear out their formally loyal customers while not allowing the dealers to really take care of their customers.
And this is what really gets me: how can a reputable car company jerk around customers like this? What is their long-term intent for keeping customers?
Unfortunately this is does not seem to be a case for a big class action law suit since the outcome would not involve huge punitive damage payments that would make this truly interesting for a big law firm (nobody has died or is getting physically hurt/sick).
With that, I will resort to continuing to complain to Audi, make sure I don't recommend the car/brand to anybody and will get rid of my A4 at an opportune time in the near future.
jeff

Skowhegan, ME

#243 Jan 8, 2010
Has any of you with oil 'consumption' in the range of a quart to 1200 miles, and with 100,000 miles or more, had a compression test done on your A4 2.0 engine? If so, could you report the results?
Carlos M

Cincinnati, OH

#244 Jan 15, 2010
I leased a 2007 a4 2.0T sline. Up until 20K the car was fine...never really had a problem, I got the appropiate oil change and all the good stuff. After that, I have been adding 1qt of oil every 1000-1500 miles and it's quiet annoying. The service tech told me that it's normal for a turbo car because it utilizes the oil to lubricate other parts in the engine or something along those lines.

I find it funny how it only starting doing it after certain amount of miles...if the car requires lubrication it would've done it since the very beginning. I never really bothered to bring it in to look at it because I figure they would just continue telling me the same thing over and over. It's now time to return the car but I doubt I'll be getting a new Audi. the car drives like a dream...but for what you pay for it shouldn't be requiring added oil every month.
jeff

Williamstown, VT

#245 Jan 23, 2010
25k oil change at a dealership with the minimum light coming on at 9000 miles on the prior oil change.

At 1400 miles on the most recent oil change there is no appreciable drop on the dipstick.

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