Don't buy a Honda Civic Hybrid!

Don't buy a Honda Civic Hybrid!

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Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#1 Nov 11, 2012
I bought a brand new 2009 honda civic hybrid. I just had to have the battery pack replace on it. Its got 63000 miles. No way should that battery pack go out that early. The dealer told me "We'll replace it this time, next time its yours". Nice huh? I was lucky, mine was under warranty. But honda still won't warranty the new battery back at all, "since it was replaced under warranty". So beware.
Root

Shreveport, LA

#2 Nov 12, 2012
They should warranty that new pack!
Down under

Mitcham, Australia

#3 Nov 12, 2012
Tom Loy wrote:
I bought a brand new 2009 honda civic hybrid. I just had to have the battery pack replace on it. Its got 63000 miles. No way should that battery pack go out that early. The dealer told me "We'll replace it this time, next time its yours". Nice huh? I was lucky, mine was under warranty. But honda still won't warranty the new battery back at all, "since it was replaced under warranty". So beware.
You might have to consider a Toyota Prius next time. Prius are used as Taxis in Australia and some are approaching 500,000 klm on the original battery. take care David.

Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#4 Nov 16, 2012
Down under wrote:
<quoted text> You might have to consider a Toyota Prius next time. Prius are used as Taxis in Australia and some are approaching 500,000 klm on the original battery. take care David.
Yeah, I've heard that, but toyota just had to recall the prius. I will probably go diesel this next time. I would like to buy the focus diesel, but unfortunately, its not available here in the states, and the vw golf and the chevy cruze diesels are way too large at 2.0 litres. I will drive my civic as little as possible to extend the battery life, so I can wait a year or two before having to buy a replacement.

Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#5 Nov 16, 2012
Root wrote:
They should warranty that new pack!
Even if honda warranties it, their warranty on new battery packs is only 3 years and 36000 miles. So the odds are even with a warranty a bad battery pack would last longer than that.
Proteus

Windsor, Canada

#6 Nov 16, 2012
Tom Loy wrote:
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Even if honda warranties it, their warranty on new battery packs is only 3 years and 36000 miles. So the odds are even with a warranty a bad battery pack would last longer than that.
Sorry to hear about your battery issue, Tom.
For a while there, you seemed happy with the car, but how things can change in a hurry!
Has the service guy told you what might have caused the failure of the original battery?
It would be interesting to learn that, don't you think?
Unfortunately for all hybrids and EVs, batteries are prone to overheating while being charged---that can affect longevity to a significant degree.
I wonder if that might have happened in your case.
I know you're not happy with Honda right now, but by and large they do build decent products, so don't give up on them completely.
Proteus

Windsor, Canada

#7 Nov 16, 2012
One more thing Tom...
I assume you're aware of Honda's recall in 2010/11 regarding premature battery pack failures.
The "fix" was a software upgrade--which from some reports caused more problems than it corrected.
Most folks however, did experience improvement.

Also FYI, Honda switched to Lithium Ion batteries in 2011/12, and this has eliminated premature failures.
Honda now warranties their batteries for 5 years or 100,000 Km.

Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#8 Dec 7, 2012
Proteus wrote:
One more thing Tom...
I assume you're aware of Honda's recall in 2010/11 regarding premature battery pack failures.
The "fix" was a software upgrade--which from some reports caused more problems than it corrected.
Most folks however, did experience improvement.
Also FYI, Honda switched to Lithium Ion batteries in 2011/12, and this has eliminated premature failures.
Honda now warranties their batteries for 5 years or 100,000 Km.
Maybe it has. I'd be more impressed if honda replaced the battery pack with a lithium ion one.

Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#9 Dec 7, 2012
Proteus wrote:
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Sorry to hear about your battery issue, Tom.
For a while there, you seemed happy with the car, but how things can change in a hurry!
Has the service guy told you what might have caused the failure of the original battery?
It would be interesting to learn that, don't you think?
Unfortunately for all hybrids and EVs, batteries are prone to overheating while being charged---that can affect longevity to a significant degree.
I wonder if that might have happened in your case.
I know you're not happy with Honda right now, but by and large they do build decent products, so don't give up on them completely.
Yeah, for a while I was happy, but I was also lucky to have the issue while under warranty. No, I didn't get any info on what caused the failure. Its gonna be a while before I buy a honda again. Honda does make good products, but in this case failed to adequately test the batteries before bringing the car to market.

Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#10 Dec 7, 2012
Another problem with the civic is Honda didn't install an alternator, so, if the battery pack dies, you're stranded. I had thought that even if the electric drive failed, the engine would still function. Thats just being cheap and wanting to save a few bucks.
fyi

Haymarket, VA

#12 Mar 11, 2013
Consumer Reports Reader Report Frowns On Civic Hybridsí Battery Reliability
Jeff Cobb March 11, 2013
http://www.hybridcars.com/consumer-reports-re...
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Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#13 Mar 12, 2013
fyi wrote:
Consumer Reports Reader Report Frowns On Civic Hybridsí Battery Reliability
Jeff Cobb March 11, 2013
http://www.hybridcars.com/consumer-reports-re...
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No surprise here. Honda has really shot itself in the foot with the battery packs on the civic hybrid.
Root

Shreveport, LA

#14 Mar 13, 2013
Tom Loy wrote:
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No surprise here. Honda has really shot itself in the foot with the battery packs on the civic hybrid.
How many miles do you drive to work daily?

Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#15 Mar 13, 2013
Root wrote:
<quoted text>How many miles do you drive to work daily?
None right now, though I would not hesitate to drive 60 miles to a job if necessary. My plan is to replace the civic before it needs another battery pack. I would prefer a diesel. The Chevy Cruze diesel is too large at 2.0 litres. Europe has a 1.7 litre in the cruze that gets 60 mpg. Mazda has some diesels available.
Root

Shreveport, LA

#16 Mar 13, 2013
Ok, I was going to say if it was within the 40 mile range a Volt would be ideal. People are getting hundreds of miles to the gallon but you have to fit in that driving range.

Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#17 Mar 14, 2013
Root wrote:
Ok, I was going to say if it was within the 40 mile range a Volt would be ideal. People are getting hundreds of miles to the gallon but you have to fit in that driving range.
No, I wouldn't buy a hybrid or plug in hybrid if you gave it to me. The battery technology isn't there yet.
Root

Shreveport, LA

#18 Mar 14, 2013
Tom Loy wrote:
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No, I wouldn't buy a hybrid or plug in hybrid if you gave it to me. The battery technology isn't there yet.
Interesting take and I completely respect your decision. Fair to note that GMís Volt technology is exceeding expectations with the highest customer satisfaction possible.
Cathal

Dublin, Ireland

#19 Mar 22, 2013
I'm getting an LPG conversion. LPG costs half the price of gasoline/petrol in Ireland. That's far better economy than you will get with an expensive hybrid or diesel car
John

Burlington, Canada

#20 Mar 25, 2013
Tom Loy wrote:
I bought a brand new 2009 honda civic hybrid. I just had to have the battery pack replace on it. Its got 63000 miles. No way should that battery pack go out that early. The dealer told me "We'll replace it this time, next time its yours". Nice huh? I was lucky, mine was under warranty. But honda still won't warranty the new battery back at all, "since it was replaced under warranty". So beware.
Tom,

It is my understanding there was an extended warranty on the battery packs but I am not sure which year. Even though you have a new battery, you are still covered by the original warranty. Consider it a blessing perhaps, you have a new battery under warranty that may last a long time now as opposed to one that is 1/2 done its life.
Hyundai Sonata hybrid-

Portland, OR

#21 Mar 31, 2013
The Hyundai Sonata hybrid has a lifetime battery warranty if you are the original owner. But the car is pretty big and only gets about 33MPG real world..

Yeah the new Diesel cars here in the USA are too big, 2L will not bring impressive MPG; about 40MPG average with an auto, maybe 44MPG average with a manual. Much of this is attributed to the fact that diesel contains 13%+ more energy than gas.

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