GM Loses $100M Lawsuit - Saturn Trans...

GM Loses $100M Lawsuit - Saturn Transmission

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Truckin

United States

#1 Sep 11, 2008
GM settles lawsuit over faulty Saturn transmissions

Chrissie Thompson
Automotive News
September 11, 2008 - 6:00 pm ET

General Motors has settled a class-action lawsuit involving early transmission failures in the more than 90,000 Saturn vehicles carrying its VTi continuously variable transmission.

The settlement, which has preliminary approval from a federal judge, could cost GM more than $100 million, said Rob Schmeider, a plaintiffs' lawyer from the Lakin Law Firm of Wood River, Ill.

The settlement applies to owners of 2002 to 2005 Saturn Vues or 2003 or 2004 Saturn Ions with failed VTi transmissions, which cost around $4,000 to $5,000 to replace, Schmeider said. The percentage of individual plaintiffs' expenses that will be paid depends on the mileage of the vehicle when the transmission failed, and whether owners purchased the vehicle new or used.

If the judge grants approval, all people listed on qualifying vehicle titles will receive claim forms for past and future expenses related to failure of the VTi transmission before vehicles reach 125,000 miles. The settlement applies to VTis that fail within eight years of the model year.
Truckin

United States

#2 Sep 11, 2008
GM couldn't get a CVT transmission to work properly, its likely that the Volt will see similar class action lawsuits considering the complexity of its powertrain.

“Boycott Biased Observer!”

Since: Aug 08

Canada

#3 Sep 11, 2008
Truckin wrote:
GM couldn't get a CVT transmission to work properly, its likely that the Volt will see similar class action lawsuits considering the complexity of its powertrain.
CVT is on Fords Mister Plastech.
Bla bla bla Pla pla plastech!
Truckin

Kernersville, NC

#4 Sep 12, 2008
GM settles lawsuit over faulty Saturn transmissions

Chrissie Thompson
Automotive News
September 11, 2008 - 6:00 pm ET

General Motors has settled a class-action lawsuit involving early transmission failures in the more than 90,000 Saturn vehicles carrying its VTi continuously variable transmission.

The settlement, which has preliminary approval from a federal judge, could cost GM more than $100 million, said Rob Schmeider, a plaintiffs' lawyer from the Lakin Law Firm of Wood River, Ill.

The settlement applies to owners of 2002 to 2005 Saturn Vues or 2003 or 2004 Saturn Ions with failed VTi transmissions, which cost around $4,000 to $5,000 to replace, Schmeider said. The percentage of individual plaintiffs' expenses that will be paid depends on the mileage of the vehicle when the transmission failed, and whether owners purchased the vehicle new or used.

If the judge grants approval, all people listed on qualifying vehicle titles will receive claim forms for past and future expenses related to failure of the VTi transmission before vehicles reach 125,000 miles. The settlement applies to VTis that fail within eight years of the model year.

U.S. District Judge William B. Shubb has scheduled a hearing Feb. 17 in Sacramento. Calif., to weigh final approval of the settlement.

GM could not release details or comment on Thursday, a spokeswoman said.

The VTi transmission, which Saturn discontinued after 2005, uses a steel belt and adjustable pulleys to keep the engine running in its most efficient rpm range. GM touted it as 7 percent more fuel efficient than the automatic transmissions Saturn was producing at the time.

The transmission, designed by GM Powertrain, was made in an Adam Opel AG plant in Szentgotthard, Hungary.
Truckin

Kernersville, NC

#5 Sep 12, 2008
I see many of you are in denial that GM offered the CVT on the VUE. It was a terrible offering. Please read above.
johnjohn

Grovetown, GA

#6 Nov 17, 2008
Same problem with mine, the local Saturn dealer is no help, hung up on me. Where can i find out more on this?
STB

Buellton, CA

#7 Nov 17, 2008
All that talk about bad toyota tranny's and it turns out GM is the one with the actual problems.
What a joke!

Just buy Toyota, Honda or Nissan. The odds are you will get a quality product.

Ford GM and the other one are pure junk.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#8 Nov 17, 2008
I guess the settlement really doesnt matter when the taxpayer's are going to pick up the check....
Unbiased Observer

Windsor, Canada

#9 Nov 17, 2008
Betcha 70plyRR wishes this thread hadn't appeared!!

I think it's encumbent upon some of us to remind him of this from time to time!(When he and a few others get carried away with those tales of woe by other automakers)

I'll be the first to volunteer!!!!
Truckin

Kernersville, NC

#10 Nov 17, 2008
Yeah, this broke news a long time ago. GM lost millions on the manufacturing site alone. It was supposed to be the future, but quickly became and expensive past.
stb

Buellton, CA

#11 Nov 17, 2008
70ply where are you on this one?

Quit eating that gm propaganda up with a spoon..
Some advice for you: if Gm offers you some of that funny grape juice, don't drink it!

70plyRR

Since: Aug 07

Trumbull CT

#12 Nov 17, 2008
Unbiased Observer wrote:
Betcha 70plyRR wishes this thread hadn't appeared!!
I think it's encumbent upon some of us to remind him of this from time to time!(When he and a few others get carried away with those tales of woe by other automakers)
I'll be the first to volunteer!!!!
This is the thread that started the toyoda tranny threads you buffoon. I only wanted to talk about vehicles on this site, others wanted to pit one against the other and talk “financials.”

70plyRR

Since: Aug 07

Trumbull CT

#13 Nov 17, 2008
stb wrote:
70ply where are you on this one?
Quit eating that gm propaganda up with a spoon..
Some advice for you: if Gm offers you some of that funny grape juice, don't drink it!
Hey buddy, if toyoda offers you some of that golden shower piss, drink it.

Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#14 Nov 18, 2008
The moral of this story is you shouldn't mass produce something thats unreliable.
stb

Santa Barbara, CA

#15 Nov 18, 2008
Tom Loy wrote:
The moral of this story is you shouldn't mass produce something thats unreliable.
Exactly!
This is why the little 3 are done. They will no longer be able to manufacture junk.

Since: Jan 07

Location hidden

#16 Nov 18, 2008
UAW is greedy and turns out too much crap.

I love my 4WD 31 MPG Subaru Forester .. never a problem

No bailout for the car makers.. No more bailouts for the UAW.

The UAW has raped the industry too often... why should a guy who puts seats in a car make more money than a teacher with a college degree?

No bailout!

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#17 Nov 18, 2008
So true. Domestic autoworkers are overpaid. 54% over the average american worker, for a job that could be done by a robot.

We need to stop protecting these "jobs" and get with the program. No socialism. No bailout.
Coolmind wrote:
UAW is greedy and turns out too much crap.
I love my 4WD 31 MPG Subaru Forester .. never a problem
No bailout for the car makers.. No more bailouts for the UAW.
The UAW has raped the industry too often... why should a guy who puts seats in a car make more money than a teacher with a college degree?
No bailout!
Unbiased Observer

Mississauga, Canada

#18 Nov 18, 2008
70plyRR wrote:
<quoted text>This is the thread that started the toyoda tranny threads you buffoon. I only wanted to talk about vehicles on this site, others wanted to pit one against the other and talk “financials.”
Before calling anyone a buffoon, you might want to take another look at titles of more than a few threads, and comments therein, which you yourself have authored in this forum.

When it commes to buffoonery, you are not without considerable skill in that regard.

Or are you just so self absorbed that you fail to see yourself in much of what you accuse others of?

For someone who finds so much fault in others, you yourself are not without clean hands.
(obviously your not aware of the Doctrine of Clean Hands---look it up!)

Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#19 Nov 18, 2008
stb wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly!
This is why the little 3 are done. They will no longer be able to manufacture junk.
Another problem they have is the fact that everyone they've ever sold a POS to, is now coming back to haunt them. I also suspect the managers at GM thought GM was too big to go belly up.
Smitty

Troy, MI

#20 Dec 4, 2008
You guys screaming no bailout are obviously blind. The overall impact of the big 3 failing would ripple through this country and make what is bad already a boatload worse.

The big 3 aren't asking for a complete bailout. They are asking for a LOAN. They are being scrutinized far worse than the financial bailout, which is NOT a loan. This is pathetic how congress and the public are reacting.

Stop eating what is fed to you and do your own research before you cry.

Oh and PS, the big 3 are making better cars now than 10 years ago. Quality of GM is on par with toyota. But you don't hear about that because of the wonderful media.

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