Chevy Volt leapfrogs Toyota's Prius

Chevy Volt leapfrogs Toyota's Prius

There are 11770 comments on the taintedgreen.com story from Nov 30, 2010, titled Chevy Volt leapfrogs Toyota's Prius. In it, taintedgreen.com reports that:

Toyota has fallen to GM on the MPG front. The Japanese company continues to lose market.

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Pete

Byron Center, MI

#3650 Apr 27, 2013
Wifey says:
the obamamobile is only marketing hype...

made for the losers and freeloaders alike.

Too Funny.
iluvmyVolt

Santa Clara, CA

#3652 Apr 27, 2013
Root wrote:
<quoted text>Who cares?
He forgets that all of those sales were pre-orders. They have been ordered for years. As I told the kid from Des Plaines, I was going to buy an S. I even went to the factory, which is 12 miles from my house, in Fremont CA. They still have about 2,000 orders to fill.

This is posted in October, 2011

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/28/tesla...

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iluvmyVolt

Santa Clara, CA

#3653 Apr 27, 2013
Root wrote:
<quoted text>Who cares?
I don't want to pay $105,000 for 238 miles. That is the real world range according to Motortrend. We just covered this recently. It seems that all of the other companies have been high balling their ranges. GM low balled theirs. That is why most Volt owners LOVE their cars. They get more range than advertised. I think that the lower range than advertised will hurt Tesla in the future. But there are enough rich folk that just want to own one. And ... yes ... they do get a tax credit. So, that model is $98,000 after the credit.

Tesla S's real world range:

http://www.plugincars.com/whats-real-world-ra...

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iluvmyVolt

Santa Clara, CA

#3654 Apr 27, 2013
Root wrote:
<quoted text>Who cares?
Anyway, I started reading about plug in's. It turns out you have to plug in all the time. Even if you just go to the corner store. Therefore, the extra range is not a benefit. Even Tesla makes you sign a statement that you understand this. A few Roadster owners destroyed their batteries because they thought a 200 mile range meant you could drive it 199 miles before you plug in. No so. You need to plug in daily. Supposidly, Tesla has fixed the problem for the S. Some don't think so. Some feel there must be a buffer, like the Volt has. Only 13 kw's of the Volt's 16 kw battery can be used.

http://jalopnik.com/5887265/tesla-motors-deva...

From the link ... the paragraph under the heading: No Waranty, No Insurance, No Payment Plan

"Tesla CEO Elon Musk, Vice President of Sales & Ownership Experience George Blankenship, and Vice President of Worldwide Service J. Joost de Vries all became directly involved in at least one "brick" situation, with de Vries stating in writing that since Tesla's documentation and warranty "identify in clear language to keep the Roadster on external power when parked" the decision to decline any warranty or financial relief was "correct and justified".

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iluvmyVolt

Santa Clara, CA

#3655 Apr 27, 2013
Root wrote:
<quoted text>Who cares?
I'm answering in segments like this to give Petey something to do. He posts the same 5 comments all the time. I think he already has them typed out in a word document and he just copies and pastes.

At least this gives him the chance to vote since he likes doing it so much.

Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.
Silent Echo

Colonial Heights, VA

#3656 Apr 28, 2013
iluvmyVolt wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm answering in segments like this to give Petey something to do. He posts the same 5 comments all the time. I think he already has them typed out in a word document and he just copies and pastes.
At least this gives him the chance to vote since he likes doing it so much.
Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.
This stupid SOB is doing a retro three stooges laugh? I guess that is about the mental level of the average volt owner. By the way, I just got back from Miami Florida, an 850 Mile trip that took me a little over 13 hours and about 23 gallons of gas at $3.50 per gallon which equates to about $80 dollars each way. I got to thinking during my trip of how different it would be if I drove it in a volt using electric power to save gas since the volt gets worse gas mileage from the gas engine than my Elantra. Well even at 40 miles per charge if I drove far below the speed limit it would take me 20 days, I wonder if I could find Major Seth Adams and Flint McCulla and get them to come back to life so that we could do a wagon train for that 20 day trip and build 20 relay stations (AKA Charging Stations) along the route similar to the Pony Express? I know that you volt mooks will state that the volt is not designed for that type of trip and is more an around town car. Well, so is my estate car (Glorified Golf Cart) and that one has never had a drop of gas so I guess that it gets infinite gas mileage. It also cost about 10% of what the volt cost and it is a convertible with an optional top and curtains for rainy weather.

If the volt can not do a trip in any type of accepted way and gets out done in the gas department by a glorified golf cart, I guess that we have found the true value of the current GM flop.
Gizmo

Windsor, Canada

#3657 Apr 28, 2013
Let's try again.
The first time this was posted it was jumped on.
Needless to say, in spite of an entire page of defensive rhetoric, it's a fact.
Tesla outsold Volt so far in 2013.
Regardless of some folk's attempts to bury it in controversy and vitriol, it a fact which cannpot be disputed.

Tesla Model S Leading Auto Plug-In Race.
Bloomberg April 27, 2013

Tesla is North America's rechargeable auto sales leader so far in 2013.
Tesla reports 4750 deliveries of its EV Model S sedan in 2013 to date, surpassing General Motors' Chevrolet Volt which reported 4421 deliveries in the same period.
Considering Tesla began selling its Model S in mid 2012, this is a remarkable accomplishment.
The Model S comes with a base price of $69,900, and Tesla hasn't begun shipments beyond North America. The Model S goes as far as 483 kilometres on a charge
Root

Shreveport, LA

#3658 Apr 28, 2013
Actually I was jus lookig over the new hunday elantra. It's eally no a bad looking car in this color scheme.

http://gesinekratzner.com/wp-content/uploads/...
Root

Shreveport, LA

#3659 Apr 28, 2013
iluvmyVolt wrote:
<quoted text>
He forgets that all of those sales were pre-orders. They have been ordered for years. As I told the kid from Des Plaines, I was going to buy an S. I even went to the factory, which is 12 miles from my house, in Fremont CA. They still have about 2,000 orders to fill.
This is posted in October, 2011
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/28/tesla...
I told him that yesterday. He doesn't follow this segment.
Gizmo

Windsor, Canada

#3660 Apr 28, 2013
More defensive rhetoric appearing--no doubt to squelch what some folks don't want to hear.

It doesn't matter how or why Tesla got to be EV sales leader so far in 2013.

The fact is, Tesla is number one right now.

And no amount of rhetorical spin can deny that.

Not saying the situation can or my change going forward, but for the time being, Tesla leads the race.

Good for Tesla.
Jim Smatters

United States

#3661 Apr 28, 2013
Gizmo wrote:
More defensive rhetoric appearing--no doubt to squelch what some folks don't want to hear.
It doesn't matter how or why Tesla got to be EV sales leader so far in 2013.
The fact is, Tesla is number one right now.
And no amount of rhetorical spin can deny that.
Not saying the situation can or my change going forward, but for the time being, Tesla leads the race.
Good for Tesla.
Good for Tesla. I think they are very sporty cars.
iluvmyVolt

Santa Clara, CA

#3662 Apr 28, 2013
Root wrote:
<quoted text>I told him that yesterday. He doesn't follow this segment.
He's still not getting it though. Those cars delivered this year were sold in 2011. There are still well over 2,000 more cars to deliver from those 2011 sales. Oh well .... some people can't get it.

Don't get him wrong though, he likes the Volt. He also likes posting stuff that makes the Volt look like an also-ran.

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iluvmyVolt

Santa Clara, CA

#3664 Apr 28, 2013
Here's another repeat Dolt. This guy drove the Volt for 123 miles at 75-80 mph with the AC on and going up 900 foot elevations. He averaged 44 mpg!!! Why? Regenerative actions.

Don't you get that? I once went up a steep mountain .... my generator (the electric one) recharged my battery all the way down the other side. Result? 38 free miles of electricity. No plug in, no cost. I know a couple that went over the Rocky's and they had 51 free miles at the bottom of the range. When going down a hill, the car reverts to E (the gas generator turns off) and the E generator recharges the battery. The bigger the hill, the more miles you get. You add that to the gas mpg because the car is in gas mode and does not compute the miles into the Electric range on the screen.

See you learned something.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/...

from the link:

"Once on freeway I initially set the cruise control at 70 mph. Just before Palmdale, I ran the car in mountain mode, increasing the speed of the IC engine to add extra charge in the battery before the climb into the mountains. I switched mountain mode off at the base of the hills, and then ran with the traffic -- 75-80 mph -- pretty much all the way back home to L.A. I used 2.8 gallons of gas for the 123.2 mile trip -- an average of 44 mpg."

Your car can't match my millage, city or freeway, and it also costs more than mine in 5 years.

OK? If you need any more info about my amazing car, just ask.

Later

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iluvmyVolt

Santa Clara, CA

#3665 Apr 28, 2013
Root wrote:
<quoted text>I told him that yesterday. He doesn't follow this segment.
The real question is ... how many have been sold in 2013? That's the real question. When calculating a car's sales numbers for a specific year ... you must count the car sold in that year.

Now ... he is right if he is speaking of deliveries only. So what? It has nothing to do with sales.

In other words ... he's spinning it to look like sales. He accuses us of spinning.

Plain English. Sales vs. deliveries. All Tesla deliveries were 2011 sales. Volt outsold the Tesla pre-sales in 2011, by the way.

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iluvmyVolt

Santa Clara, CA

#3666 Apr 28, 2013
OK Dolt, I know you are lacking in knowledge about the Volt. You really need to check out a topic before you comment. Here are a few folks that attest to the awesome car they drive. This is about how they gain lots of miles using regenerative actions.

http://gm-volt.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-...

4th comment in the link.

Rons2013

09-05-2012, 04:50 PM

"Same sort of thing here. My daily grind is about 30 miles each way, and I lose (going) or gain (returning) about 1000 ft. of altitude in the first (closest to home) 12 miles. Leaving the house in the morning with a full charge it'll generally be showing (now that it's "learned" my habits) 42 or 43 miles of available range. By the time I get that first 12 miles out of the way (secondary road, 45-50 mph and no traffic) I'll be seeing anywhere between 52 and 56 miles available. The Best I've done so far is to be At work having covered 30 miles and still be showing 34 miles of available range."

You can't win Dolt. The Volt was named Best Eco Car by two major publications. It won the Monte Carlo Alternative Fuel Rally, beating out the best bio-diesels in the world. They drove for hundreds of miles.

You can think all you want, but you are comparing your car thinking my car drives exactly the same way yours does. It doesn't. It puts miles in the bank when regenerative actions occur.

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iluvmyVolt

Santa Clara, CA

#3667 Apr 28, 2013
I don't even think the Dolt reads these links, or my posts.

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Root

Shreveport, LA

#3668 Apr 28, 2013
Looks like welfare dolt got his asss spanked again.

Too Funny!
Root

Shreveport, LA

#3669 Apr 28, 2013
Great, it looks like welfare dolt got his asss spanked again.

Too Funny!
Gizmo

Windsor, Canada

#3670 Apr 28, 2013
Let's try one more time.
The first time this was posted it was jumped on.
So we posted it again.
And again it was jumped on.
Yet another attempt to squelch it with a barrage of defensive rhetoric and personal attacks.
Needless to say, in spite of another entire page of same old same old, it's a fact.

Tesla has outsold Volt so far in 2013.

"Tesla Model S Leading Auto Plug-In Race.
Bloomberg April 27, 2013

Tesla is North America's rechargeable auto sales leader so far in 2013.
Tesla reports 4750 deliveries of its EV Model S sedan in 2013 to date, surpassing General Motors' Chevrolet Volt which reported 4421 deliveries in the same period.
Considering Tesla began selling its Model S in mid 2012, this is a remarkable accomplishment.
The Model S comes with a base price of $69,900, and Tesla hasn't begun shipments beyond North America. The Model S goes as far as 483 kilometres on a charge"
The Walfare Mobile

Newtown, CT

#3671 Apr 28, 2013
iluvmyVolt wrote:
I don't even think the Dolt reads these links, or my posts.
A mortgage loan gets a credit against interest paid. It has nothing to do with income. Period. It is a tax brake, or credit. Where in the world did you ever hear that interest paid on a mortgage is connected to income?

iluvmyVolt, the more you babble, the more you verify yourself to all as an ignoramus on most subjects. I will quote from a great American: "Tis Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." You have as much creditability as a used Yugo salesman. You are doing the Volt more harm than good with your BS!

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