GM mulling small diesel for its picku...

GM mulling small diesel for its pickups....

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Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#1 Jan 18, 2014
The best move GM could make is to come up with a half ton unibody pickup. Put in a the 2.0 litre diesel from the chevy cruze and you'd have a very fuel efficient pickup. Love to see that diesel in the Colorado. I doubt you'll see GM put in a 4.5 litre diesel. They are trying to compete with the Ram and its 3.0 litre diesel, so I suspect the displacement will be less than that.

http://www.4wheelsnews.com/gm-considers-small...
Leagle Beagle

Windsor, Canada

#2 Jan 18, 2014
Tom, I suspect GM will opt for something bigger than the diesel used in Cruze.
They'll likely settle on a compromise between load/towing capacity and fuel economy--something akin to their current 4.8 L ecotec engine.
I just traded my 2012 Silverado for the 2014 version.
Opted (again) for the 5.3 L with active fuel management--cylinder deactivation--getting 16 L per 100 Km highway.(Pevious 2012 was averaging 14)
The new GM trucks are completely changed and much improved over previous years--quieter, more refined interior, different body styling, and better mileage because the engine is different as well-- direct fuel injection now.
Like you, I think diesel is the way of the future for light pickups.
Just don't make 'em too small so as to render the truck impractical.

Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#3 Jan 19, 2014
Leagle Beagle wrote:
Tom, I suspect GM will opt for something bigger than the diesel used in Cruze.
They'll likely settle on a compromise between load/towing capacity and fuel economy--something akin to their current 4.8 L ecotec engine.
I just traded my 2012 Silverado for the 2014 version.
Opted (again) for the 5.3 L with active fuel management--cylinder deactivation--getting 16 L per 100 Km highway.(Pevious 2012 was averaging 14)
The new GM trucks are completely changed and much improved over previous years--quieter, more refined interior, different body styling, and better mileage because the engine is different as well-- direct fuel injection now.
Like you, I think diesel is the way of the future for light pickups.
Just don't make 'em too small so as to render the truck impractical.

That's about 15 mpg for us Yanks. You are probably right. What I've heard is a 2.8 litre diesel.
It should beat the 28 mpg for the 3.0 litre diesel in the ram. But I will continue to hope for a 2.0 litre. You can always opt for the V8 if you want towing.
Leagle Beagle

Windsor, Canada

#4 Jan 19, 2014
Tom Loy wrote:
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That's about 15 mpg for us Yanks. You are probably right. What I've heard is a 2.8 litre diesel.
It should beat the 28 mpg for the 3.0 litre diesel in the ram. But I will continue to hope for a 2.0 litre. You can always opt for the V8 if you want towing.
That Benz 3.0 diesel V6 used in the Jeep Grand Cherokee a few years ago would be a perfect choice.
Great torque, good hauler, yet very good mileage. Bulletproof engine.
We still have that car--after I was done with it, we since use it as a Crew car in one of our businesses. God knows how many klicks on it now, but it still runs well according to the guys using it. We hauled our boat (4000 pounds) up to the cottage more than a few times with it, and it did well.
But the Silverados with the 5.3 gasser do it OK too, and diesel here is pricier than gasoline!

Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#5 Jan 28, 2014
Leagle Beagle wrote:
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That Benz 3.0 diesel V6 used in the Jeep Grand Cherokee a few years ago would be a perfect choice.
Great torque, good hauler, yet very good mileage. Bulletproof engine.
We still have that car--after I was done with it, we since use it as a Crew car in one of our businesses. God knows how many klicks on it now, but it still runs well according to the guys using it. We hauled our boat (4000 pounds) up to the cottage more than a few times with it, and it did well.
But the Silverados with the 5.3 gasser do it OK too, and diesel here is pricier than gasoline!
Yeah, I've heard diesels run forever. That's why Ford, Chrysler and GM don't like them. They want people to buy new cars every 4 years. Hoping VW brings over the polo with the 1.4 litre diesel. Love to buy one.
Leagle Beagle

Windsor, Canada

#6 Jan 28, 2014
Tom Loy wrote:
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Yeah, I've heard diesels run forever. That's why Ford, Chrysler and GM don't like them. They want people to buy new cars every 4 years. Hoping VW brings over the polo with the 1.4 litre diesel. Love to buy one.
Interesting diesel story...
My. Brother-in-Law had a VW Jetta with a diesel and drove it for at least 15 years, God knows how many klicks it had on it--a heck of a lot for sure.
The body got so badly rusted that the car couldn't pass a safety check, so he found a similar year Jetta with a sound body but a run out gasoline engine, and installed his original diesel engine in the good Jetta.
He drove that bastardised Jetta with the old diesel for at least another 5 years!
As far as I know it's probably still around somewhere.

PS
I checked with my shop guys and can report that our diesel Jeep Grand Cherokee crew car currently has 456,000 Km on the clock. That's roughly 270,000 miles! Still truckin'.

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