Toyota Killing Children

[Root]

Cute, the car company tiki loves to support is polluting the environment right on his home turf. If that isn’t ironic I don’t know what is.

[con_tiki]

Charlie wrote:

"The acid rain around Sudbury was so bad it destroyed all the plants and the soil slid down off the hillside,” said Canadian Greenpeace energy-coordinator David Martin during an interview with Mail, a British-based newspaper."

Get it right Charlie it is the Nickle Mines in Subbury.

Nickle mines have been in Sudbury long before Toyota started using the Prius.

Sudbury is famous for it's nickle mines and what harm it is doing to the environment has little to do with Toyota.This problem has been around for awhile now.

That article is bias and any person from Sudbury will tell you that nickle mines have been a problem for a lot of years now in Sudbury.

Learn something about Canada before you show your foolish comments!!

Another way to try a destroy Toyota's good name with scare tactics.The best you could Charlie is grown up some!!

[Root]

con_tiki wrote:

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Get it right Charlie it is the Nickle Mines in Subbury.
Nickle mines have been in Sudbury long before Toyota started using the Prius.
Sudbury is famous for it's nickle mines and what harm it is doing to the environment has little to do with Toyota.This problem has been around for awhile now.
That article is bias and any person from Sudbury will tell you that nickle mines have been a problem for a lot of years now in Sudbury.
Learn something about Canada before you show your foolish comments!!
Another way to try a destroy Toyota's good name with scare tactics.The best you could Charlie is grown up some!!

I think the issue is that Toyota rapes the mines to extract nickel to produce the prius battery. While doing it, they contribute to the killing of the environment, and then try to push the car as “green,” to unsuspecting liberal Americans, all in the name of profit. Just another example of the scrupulous, deceitful, and disgraceful approach by the asian auto company in an effort to “be on top.” Toyota is just as devious as any other corporation.

Don’t get me wrong, I would rather see business succeed, and I don’t claim to be protecting of owls over the environment. The issue at hand is that toy gets away with it, then people like you discredit the reports and try to make excuses. If GM tried to kill the innocent, it would be all over the news.

[Helio]

Root wrote:

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I think the issue is that Toyota rapes the mines to extract nickel to produce the prius battery. While doing it, they contribute to the killing of the environment, and then try to push the car as “green,” to unsuspecting liberal Americans, all in the name of profit. Just another example of the scrupulous, deceitful, and disgraceful approach by the asian auto company in an effort to “be on top.” Toyota is just as devious as any other corporation.
Don’t get me wrong, I would rather see business succeed, and I don’t claim to be protecting of owls over the environment. The issue at hand is that toy gets away with it, then people like you discredit the reports and try to make excuses. If GM tried to kill the innocent, it would be all over the news.

Well Said and Correct.

[con_tiki]

You don't get it and if you lived in Canada you would know.

Sudbury has had this environment problem long before Toyota ever came along.

We in Canada know how bad Sudbury is and Toyota has play little part in it!!

The bias article is throwing the problem on Toyota which not the case when it is not Toyota problem but a long standing problem of many years of nickle mining in the area which has destroy the area.

Understanding Canada has little interest to most of American and it's show on occassions in these posts.

[Root]

Think, and think hard. The article does NOT say that TOYOTA is the cause of the nickel problem.

Rather it states that TOYOTA is contributing to the problem, with no regard for the future of Canada’s environment or its children.

I don’t even want to get into the other aspect of the post, especially the one that points out the irony of a corporation that tries to produce a “green” car whilst killing in the process.

[con_tiki]

Root wrote:

Think, and think hard. The article does NOT say that TOYOTA is the cause of the nickel problem.
Rather it states that TOYOTA is contributing to the problem, with no regard for the future of Canada’s environment or its children.
I don’t even want to get into the other aspect of the post, especially the one that points out the irony of a corporation that tries to produce a “green” car whilst killing in the process.

Scare tactics only and to create a bad name for Toyota nothing more out of this!

You have found something to run with and that is what you are doing.

Toyota is great no matter what you say!!

[con_tiki]

Give it a rest people!!!!

Toyota is killing no one only the domestic in their sales!!

It a foolish mindset that the domestics supporters are running with right now about Sudbury problems and think it so much fun!!

When all is said and done Toyota will still be No#1 carmaker.

If you think the domestics havn't already played a part in Sudbury problems with their nickle mines as well then you better think again or find something else to cry about!!

Know a little about Canada before you speak up with such foolish comments.

It you want to talk about environment problems look in your own back yard first.

The USA are the BIGGEST polluters around and we as Canadians received all their pollution up our way!!

[ben berlinsky]

Con_tiki, you cannot take it when your faithful car company does something wrong, so you start a rant chewing out domestics and america in general. Nobody in america is going to change thier habits. And GM doesnt have any nickel powered cars so obviously they dont produce pollutants at mines.

[Root]

con_tiki wrote:

Give it a rest people!!!!
Toyota is killing no one only the domestic in their sales!!
It a foolish mindset that the domestics supporters are running with right now about Sudbury problems and think it so much fun!!
When all is said and done Toyota will still be No#1 carmaker.
If you think the domestics havn't already played a part in Sudbury problems with their nickle mines as well then you better think again or find something else to cry about!!
Know a little about Canada before you speak up with such foolish comments.
It you want to talk about environment problems look in your own back yard first.
The USA are the BIGGEST polluters around and we as Canadians received all their pollution up our way!!

If you are concerned about pollution look in the direction of Asia. You are either very misinformed, unknowledgeable, or preaching things you learned in the 50’s. FYI, the developing countries in the East are far out polluting the US. Not trying to be mean, however you continually post things that make no sense. Maybe you should stick with the copy and paste method on your love fest thread titled “Hondas sure are the greatest.” That way you can post, and then enjoy reading your posts, with minimal interference.

PS. It’s not our fault that Toyota elected to contribute to the downfall of the Canadian people and their land. It’s just the type of people they are, accept it and get over it.

Next

[con_tiki]

Mom29 wrote:

I am flabbergasted to hear about the awful things Toyota is doing to the Canadian people. I thought Toyota was a good company only to find out they are not. I am truly disappointed at this whole situation.

Knowledge is needed here.

Grown up and learn something people instead of what some else wants you to believe.

Sudbury,Ontario is just fine and that article is more bogus than anything else.

Read and learn people. Learn about Canada!!!!!!

Link.http://www.cyberbeach.net /lberta/infosudy.html

[Kern]

con_tiki wrote:

You don't get it and if you lived in Canada you would know.
Sudbury has had this environment problem long before Toyota ever came along.
We in Canada know how bad Sudbury is and Toyota has play little part in it!!
The bias article is throwing the problem on Toyota which not the case when it is not Toyota problem but a long standing problem of many years of nickle mining in the area which has destroy the area.
Understanding Canada has little interest to most of American and it's show on occassions in these posts.

Toyota, who claims to be perfect in the enviro area, is contributing to this problem. Thats very un-"green" of them!

[Kern]

Sharonda wrote:

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Do people really live there? I can't believe Toyota would do something like this.

Sudbury is a major city!

[Kern]

con_tiki wrote:

Give it a rest people!!!!
Toyota is killing no one only the domestic in their sales!!
It a foolish mindset that the domestics supporters are running with right now about Sudbury problems and think it so much fun!!
When all is said and done Toyota will still be No#1 carmaker.
If you think the domestics havn't already played a part in Sudbury problems with their nickle mines as well then you better think again or find something else to cry about!!
Know a little about Canada before you speak up with such foolish comments.
It you want to talk about environment problems look in your own back yard first.
The USA are the BIGGEST polluters around and we as Canadians received all their pollution up our way!!

I do not at all want to turn this forum into a USA vs Canada debate, but USA is no worse than Canada when it comes to "Pollution". North Americans are not wasteful, but they have a certain lifestyle. In other countries, people just have less stuff. Smaller houses, less cars, but USA is very clean compared to other places. Most cars are new, and many households have new, energy efficient appliances. In my home state, West Virginia, the air is much cleaner than in Vancouver, Canada or other places in Canada. We cannot generalize.

Returning to the topic, southern Ontario is filthy because there are many factories, people and airports in the area. The population is very dense all the way to the Michigan border. These are the causes of poor air quality in the area. Stop pinning it on your neighbor! This is a typical Canadian thing, just blame everything on the US. Stop changing the topic, Sudbury has enviro issues because of the mines, and Toyo is not helping!

[Root]

con_tiki wrote:

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Knowledge is needed here.
Grown up and learn something people instead of what some else wants you to believe.
Sudbury,Ontario is just fine and that article is more bogus than anything else.
Read and learn people. Learn about Canada!!!!!!
Link.http://www.cyberbeach.net /lberta/infosudy.html

Wrong - Bogus? Sudbury is filthy and you know it. Again, it is not a Canadian thing; it is a Toyota issue, for playing the “green” card then polluting the environment.

I can work on getting you some more info for this. Together we can all make a difference, even if your grandchildren are glowing in the dark.

[con_tiki]

Because Sudbury is in question here:

Learn some knowledge about Sudbury, Ontario

Educate yourself after all there is more to the world than just the good old USA.

Link:http://www.cyberbeach.net /~seajay/sudbury.html

[Root]

Sam wrote:

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Wha else do we need to know about Toyota? I am almost afraid to ask.

Air pollution plaintiffs protest at Toyota
Kyodo News
Asthma sufferers and other plaintiffs held a sit-in Thursday in front Toyota Motor Corp.'s headquarters in Tokyo to highlight their air pollution lawsuit for damages and an apology from seven automakers, the state and the Tokyo Metropolitan Government.


Asthma sufferers and other plaintiffs in an air pollution lawsuit hold a sit-in Thursday with a banner that reads "Toyota Motor Corp. should make an apology," in front of Toyota's Tokyo headquarters in Bunkyo Ward. KYODO PHOTO


The Tokyo High Court has proposed the seven automakers make lump-sum payments to the plaintiffs in an out-of-court settlement.

The Tokyo District Court in 2002 recognized the connection between air pollution and the plaintiffs' illnesses and ordered the defendants, excluding the automakers, to pay a combined 79 million yen in damages.

The automakers have told the high court they are willing to join the metro government in a health-care aid plan for the asthma patients, but the plaintiffs are continuing to seek an apology and damages from all the defendants.

"We would like to show by the sit-in that the makers are victimizers and that victims exist," a plaintiff said.

The firms are Nissan Motor Co., Nissan Diesel Motor Co., Mitsubishi Motors Corp., Hino Motors Ltd., Isuzu Motors Ltd. and Mazda Motor Corp.

[Rob]

When are you people going to learn con-tiki can say what he wants, because he is the most closed minded person on the entire net. either that or he is one of toyotas and hondas paid bloggers that put out propoganda all day long.

[David]

Sandy wrote:

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Are you saying the pollution is a lie, flowers are growing in the toxic dirt, and the children aren’t falling down with cancer? Are you going to stand there and tell me that you believe in Toyota after they pollute your backyard and dump feces on the ground from the mine port toilets? Do you expect me to believe that your children don’t glow in the dark? I don’t like that kind of thing con tiki!

WOW. I have never seen so much stupidity in my life, save for the army perhaps... You people need to get a clue.
First off, it isn't ANY particular manufacturer's problem when there is no sanctioning body to oversee mining and industrial waste,(anyone ever heard of the EPA in the US ?!)
Now, that said. GM, Ford, Chrysler, etc etc etc ALL use materials that are mined, and much of them use materials that are not cleanly mined. That is the life of industry. The EPA sees to make sure the cleanup is done properly afterwards, so that people don't suffer from the chemicals via groundwater contamination and such.
Toyota should not have to police up after everyone who sources their raw materials. That is unrealistic, and near impossible. Obviously they don't want people raping the earth to bring them what they need, because that just doesn't look good to everyone else =).
If people continue to live in an area that is polluted by mines and other industrial waste, they at least need to get the environmental agencies to watch over closely. That is only fair.
For thought, everyone is trying to make Toyota motor corp look bad, HOWEVER, they produce MUCH more efficient vehicles across the board than GM, Chrysler corp, and Ford... You don't think Gasoline and the by-products of making and burning it are harmful to the environment? Everything is a trade off people, Toyota makes a car that uses much less gasoline, in turn making an environmental dent in another way. The key is, to determine the lesser of the two evils: Mines are very simple in principle to keep clean, and minimize the impact upon the environment. Oil wells, refineries and the by-products of burning it are much more difficult to control.*You can't exactly bulldoze a barrier around all the carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, NoX, in the sky can you??* I hope I have made at least one person think. If not, you are thick skulled.

[Root]

Janie wrote:

You must not have read the thread or researched the topic.

Remember, anytime there is something negative about ricers, they usually either change the subject, outright deny, call you stupid, or ramble on about some unrelated nonsense, of which has nothing to do with the thread.