However court rules, gay marriage deb...

However court rules, gay marriage debate won't end

There are 2348 comments on the NewsCenter 25 story from Mar 28, 2013, titled However court rules, gay marriage debate won't end. In it, NewsCenter 25 reports that:

However the Supreme Court rules after its landmark hearings on same-sex marriage, the issue seems certain to divide Americans and states for many years to come.

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“From a distance...”

Since: Apr 08

Planet Earth

#1983 Apr 26, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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Great job you all! Soon marriage will mean nothing at all...congrats!
Yeah, that's what your fellow bigots said after anti-miscegenation laws were struck down too. If your marriage only has meaning when the rights of others are repressed, it doesn't say much for either your marriage or your morals.

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1984 Apr 26, 2013
Terra Firma wrote:
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Yeah, that's what your fellow bigots said after anti-miscegenation laws were struck down too. If your marriage only has meaning when the rights of others are repressed, it doesn't say much for either your marriage or your morals.
Uh-oh...someone didn't read the article on how ridiculous it is to compare ssm with the civil rights movement...tsk tsk tsk....

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#1985 Apr 26, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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Credible sources for predicting the future??? Yeah, sorry, don't have any and neither do you....id-jit....
No, credible sources for your ridiculous claim:
Get That Idiot wrote:
<quoted text>I don't know that it won't go anywhere....10 years ago the same thing was said about ssm....
Remember when you posted that a few posts back?? Got any credible sources that it was predicted 10 years ago that marriage equality would go nowhere? Certainly no one credible that *I* know was ever predicting that. Fake News and NOM and all *those* crazies were saying it, but none of them are credible.

You DO like to tap-dance around your own words, don't you?

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#1986 Apr 26, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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Uh-oh...someone didn't read the article on how ridiculous it is to compare ssm with the civil rights movement...tsk tsk tsk....
Can you define the terms "civil" and "rights" for us?

They're pretty straightforward and simple concepts. But if you believe the fight for the *RIGHT* to have our *CIVIL* marriages recognized under the law is not a part of the greater civil rights movement, I'm thinking you don't understand them.

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1987 Apr 26, 2013
eJohn wrote:
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No, credible sources for your ridiculous claim:
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Remember when you posted that a few posts back?? Got any credible sources that it was predicted 10 years ago that marriage equality would go nowhere? Certainly no one credible that *I* know was ever predicting that. Fake News and NOM and all *those* crazies were saying it, but none of them are credible.
You DO like to tap-dance around your own words, don't you?
You are an id'jit! When did ssm happen???

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1988 Apr 26, 2013
eJohn wrote:
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Can you define the terms "civil" and "rights" for us?
They're pretty straightforward and simple concepts. But if you believe the fight for the *RIGHT* to have our *CIVIL* marriages recognized under the law is not a part of the greater civil rights movement, I'm thinking you don't understand them.
Sure...civil rights are rights extended to every citizen....

Gays already had the right to marry, long before ssm, and many of them actually did marry....long before ssm....

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1991 Apr 26, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
Can't run, can't hide..history will record this as is...
he Washington Times reports:
[Polygamy is] getting a legal boost from a strange bedfellow: the success of same-sex marriage.

Great job you all! Soon marriage will mean nothing at all...congrats!
If the meaning of your marriage depends on whom else is married, then you don't understand what a marriage is in the first place.

Of course since you're married to an "ex"-gay man who still has sex with other men......

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1992 Apr 26, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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What is the name of this thread again??? Case closed...
Lazy journalism.

I have the exact same marriage certificate which was issued to everyone else. Nowhere does it say "gay marriage" or "same-sex marriage" on it.

It just says Certificate of Marriage.

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1993 Apr 26, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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If the meaning of your marriage depends on whom else is married, then you don't understand what a marriage is in the first place.
Of course since you're married to an "ex"-gay man who still has sex with other men......
What marriage is is what we are talking about...and when you add in every kind of marriage man can come up with...it means nothing...

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1994 Apr 26, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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Sure...civil rights are rights extended to every citizen....
Gays already had the right to marry, long before ssm, and many of them actually did marry....long before ssm....
Like your "ex"-gay husband?

And now we have the right to marry the person of our choice, instead of who the bigots in society think we should have to marry.

Haven't you learned from your own failed marriage how destructive that is when gays are pressured into marrying to appear straight?

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1995 Apr 26, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Lazy journalism.
I have the exact same marriage certificate which was issued to everyone else. Nowhere does it say "gay marriage" or "same-sex marriage" on it.
It just says Certificate of Marriage.
But we know, don't we??......

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1996 Apr 26, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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What marriage is is what we are talking about...and when you add in every kind of marriage man can come up with...it means nothing...
Nope, the meaning of my marriage is in no way dependent on whom else can marry.

You should be celebrating; now maybe your "ex"-gay husband can actually marry the man he wanted to. You'll both be much happier.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1997 Apr 26, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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But we know, don't we??......
Yes, we know it's a marriage the same as any other marriage.

Well except mine is successful & happy, unlike your sad "ex"-gay marriage.

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1998 Apr 26, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Like your "ex"-gay husband?
And now we have the right to marry the person of our choice..
You've always had that right...no one chose your spouse for you..

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1999 Apr 26, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Nope, the meaning of my marriage is in no way dependent on whom else can marry.
You should be celebrating; now maybe your "ex"-gay husband can actually marry the man he wanted to. You'll both be much happier.
That's a lie...if you add too the definition of marriage, you change it...plan and simple...and when you change it to include everthing man can think of...you've erased the meaning of it altogether...

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#2000 Apr 26, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Yes, we know it's a marriage the same as any other marriage.
Well except mine is successful & happy, unlike your sad "ex"-gay marriage.
Lie to yourself all you want...you can't lie to me...

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2001 Apr 26, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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You've always had that right...no one chose your spouse for you..
Really? The person I chose to marry happened to be of the same gender as myself, and before 2004 I did NOT have the right to marry the person of my choice.

By law my choice was limited to the 50% of the population of the opposite gender.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#2002 Apr 26, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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That's a lie...if you add too the definition of marriage, you change it...plan and simple...and when you change it to include everthing man can think of...you've erased the meaning of it altogether...
Exactly. If the media were "liberal," they wouldn't append an unnecessary qualifier.

Of course, if a conservative valued life-long commitments, they would be for marriage equality. But they value bigotry above what they claim they value.

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#2003 Apr 26, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Really? The person I chose to marry happened to be of the same gender as myself, and before 2004 I did NOT have the right to marry the person of my choice.
By law my choice was limited to the 50% of the population of the opposite gender.
I don't know who you chose..according to you ssm wasn't illegal, so you could have...

In any event...no one chose your spouse for you...even gays had a choice of which o/s person they decided to marry....

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#2004 Apr 26, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
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Exactly. If the media were "liberal," they wouldn't append an unnecessary qualifier.
Of course, if a conservative valued life-long commitments, they would be for marriage equality. But they value bigotry above what they claim they value.
Polygamy: The Next Marriage Battle?

By Evan Lenow - April 18, 2013

While the battle over same-sex marriage still rages, it is hard to imagine what the next battle might be. However, astute observers of the marriage debate have already seen the newest challenge to the definition of marriage—polygamy. In an article this week on Slate, Jillian Keenan proposes that the legalization of polygamous marriage is a desired result of the current marriage debate. She argues:


While the Supreme Court and the rest of us are all focused on the human right of marriage equality, let’s not forget that the fight doesn’t end with same-sex marriage. We need to legalize polygamy, too. Legalized polygamy in the United States is the constitutional, feminist, and sex-positive choice. More importantly, it would actually help protect, empower, and strengthen women, children, and families.

Keenan is not playing the “same-sex marriage is a slippery slope” card to argue against same-sex marriage. In fact, she ridicules that argument as a “tired refrain.” Instead, she brands herself as a feminist who believes polygamy is in the best interest of women and society and perfectly in keeping with the arguments for same-sex marriage.

Besides the 2011 lawsuit to decriminalize bigamy and polygamy in Utah filed by the stars of TLC’sSister Wives, the discussion of polygamy and its connection to the same-sex marriage debate has been fairly silent. Keenan, however, wishes to end that silence.

I O W....she wants to tell the truth of the matter and that is that ssm and polygamy are going hand in hand to redefine marriage in this country...

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