However court rules, gay marriage deb...

However court rules, gay marriage debate won't end

There are 2348 comments on the NewsCenter 25 story from Mar 28, 2013, titled However court rules, gay marriage debate won't end. In it, NewsCenter 25 reports that:

However the Supreme Court rules after its landmark hearings on same-sex marriage, the issue seems certain to divide Americans and states for many years to come.

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#1518 Apr 11, 2013
Francisco dAnconia wrote:
why you wont admit its a way that gay dads are DEFICIENT...
why can't you admit it when you know in this regard its true...
Just because GAY dads can not breast-feed DOESN'T make them deficient......otherwise any man would be deficient regarding this issue, right?

Frankly whether I know men can't breast-feed has NOTHING to do with them not having good parenting skills!!!

Let me ask you this.......can a little boy be potty trained without a father? If a father is unable to teach his son how to stand and pee correctly, would that be an indicator that the father has poor parenting skills? or just a deficiency in general?

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#1519 Apr 11, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Just because GAY dads can not breast-feed DOESN'T make them deficient......otherwise any man would be deficient regarding this issue, right?
Wow! You are almost getting there...the whole topic was that men can't be mothers, and women can't be fathers...keep going...you'll get there in a minute...(or two)...
Frankly whether I know men can't breast-feed has NOTHING to do with them not having good parenting skills!!!
Please take note of the above response...the two roles are not interchangable...
Let me ask you this.......can a little boy be potty trained without a father?[/QUOTE

Huh???

[QUOTE] If a father is unable to teach his son how to stand and pee correctly, would that be an indicator that the father has poor parenting skills? or just a deficiency in general?
That question makes no sense...

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#1520 Apr 11, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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Doesn't mean they aren't designed to together, or that our government should be backing up these families....
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Actually, one can by design, the other can not...apples/oranges...not the same argument...
Nope, by design a woman past menapause can not procreate.

So she should be allowed to marry.

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Tawas City, Michigan

#1521 Apr 11, 2013
Francisco dAnconia wrote:
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this is called the exceptions swallowing the rule...
since murder in war is legal, all murder should be legal...
So an exception which allows millions of infertile opposite-sex couples marry doesn't "swallow the rule", but somehow an exception which allows a few thousand same-sex couples marry does?

Oh no, no bigotry there......

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#1522 Apr 11, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Nope, by design a woman past menapause can not procreate.
So she should be allowed to marry.
The old should marry to set the example for the young...NEXT!!!

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#1523 Apr 11, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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So an exception which allows millions of infertile opposite-sex couples marry doesn't "swallow the rule", but somehow an exception which allows a few thousand same-sex couples marry does?
Oh no, no bigotry there......
No, because 10% does not swallow 100% now does it???
In your case 0%'IS' the rule..NO EXCEPTION...

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#1524 Apr 11, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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Sorry, there is no such thing as a nuclear/biological family in ss families.....
Married with kids = nuclear family.

And yes many of us are biological parents to our children.

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#1525 Apr 11, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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Actually, you are both wrong...a father needs to 'interject' his scent to child...a mother does not...
I think they just call that incest now......

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#1526 Apr 11, 2013
Francisco dAnconia wrote:
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nope , but it's a valid example about how straight parents are more OPTIMUM than gay men, right?
Rich parents are even MORE optimum, so better ban all poor people from making babies.....

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#1527 Apr 11, 2013
Francisco dAnconia wrote:
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your words games are on full display...
is breastfeeding BENEFICIAL?
can gay men do it?
its a rational distinction.
Is being rich beneficial?

Why yes it is.

So it's a rational distinction to ban poor people from marrying or having kids.

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Tawas City, Michigan

#1528 Apr 11, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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Wow! You are almost getting there...the whole topic was that men can't be mothers, and women can't be fathers...keep going...you'll get there in a minute...(or two)...
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Please take note of the above response...the two roles are not interchangable...
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That question makes no sense...
No the topic is that gays getting married won't end the debate.

Obviously it hasn't.

But it also hasn't stopped us from marrying and raising kids either!

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#1529 Apr 11, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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Wow! You are almost getting there...the whole topic was that men can't be mothers, and women can't be fathers...keep going...you'll get there in a minute...(or two)...
<quoted text>
Please take note of the above response...the two roles are not interchangable...
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That question makes no sense...
I don't think anyone has stated that, but a child can be raised without a mother and be a fine woman when she is older and a child can be raised without a father and be a strong man.......you are stuck on things being strictly one way and they don't have to be!!!

I believe they can be, we are not bound by what one wants to proclaim is a typical male role or a typical female role!!!

Do you believe that a woman's sole responsibility in a marriage is to take care of her husband like doing his laundry, making his dinner and cleaning the house?

Do you believe that a man's sole responsibility in a marriage is to go out and work to earn the money, take out the trash, pay the bills, handle the finances and do yard work?

Do you believe that the woman can take over the finances and work, do things in the yard, pay the bills? Could the man stay home and run the house? That's why things are interchangeable to some degree!!!

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Tawas City, Michigan

#1530 Apr 11, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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No, because 10% does not swallow 100% now does it???
In your case 0%'IS' the rule..NO EXCEPTION...
And 0% of post-menapausal women can reproduce, so they must be banned from marrying as well.

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#1531 Apr 11, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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The old should marry to set the example for the young...NEXT!!!
I agree, the old should marry regardless of their genders.

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#1532 Apr 11, 2013
Wow, over 1500 comments

Have you anti-gays stopped us from getting married?

Nope.

Have you anti-gays stopped us from having kids?

Nope.

Gee, looks like all your arguments are for naught.

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#1533 Apr 11, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Married with kids = nuclear family.
And yes many of us are biological parents to our children.
But both of your are not...making it impossible for you to be a nuclear biological family....accept it...there's just some things you can not be a part of...

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#1534 Apr 11, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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I agree, the old should marry regardless of their genders.
Then you only agree with 1/2 of what I said...

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#1535 Apr 11, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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And 0% of post-menapausal women can reproduce, so they must be banned from marrying as well.
As usual..illogical and irrelevant...I already explained why we need older people to model marriage for the young...

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#1536 Apr 11, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Wow, over 1500 comments
Have you anti-gays stopped us from getting married?
Nope.
Have you anti-gays stopped us from having kids?
Nope.
Gee, looks like all your arguments are for naught.
It's a discussion...not police action...

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Littleton, NH

#1537 Apr 11, 2013
Francisco dAnconia wrote:
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your words games are on full display...
is breastfeeding BENEFICIAL?
can gay men do it?
its a rational distinction.
Are there some women who can't or shouldn't breast feed? Do women who adopt infants lactate?

What about same-sex couples who adopt orphans already weaned?

We have already established that men and women don't have exactly the same equipment. Two men or two women can't reproduce without some external help. Pointing out that men don't generally lactate is rather pointless.

Yes, the distinctions are clear. They just haven't been shown to be important under the law.

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