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MUQ

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Apr 27, 2013
 
afoolandhismoney wrote:
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So stop coming onto an Australian Forum spouting your indoctrinated crap that nobody buys nor believes. You appear to be trying to convince yourself if anything.
They are vacating Iraq and pland to do so in Afghanistan.
"They" are trying NOT to get involved with Syria, but it's ironic that sections of Syria are accusing USA of ignoring their please for help.
I agree though, let you all stew in your own shit, because even without western influences, the tribal warring between muslims and Islamic countries will NEVER stop.
Now, can YOU STOP YOUR BROTHERS IN THOSE BLOODY GOD FORESAKEN HELL HOLES STOP FLEEING TO AUSTRALIA AND OTHER WESTERN COUNTRIES. CAN YOU ALSO GET THOSE MUSLIMS TO VACATE AUSTRALIA BACK TO MIDDLE EAST.
Fair call MUQ, you want our noses out of the middle east, we want middle eastern noses out of Australia!
What is it out of 11 million muslims, NINETY FARKIN PECENT KILLED BY OTHER MUSLIMS HANDS.
You MUQ, are a certified brainwashed fool.
I suggested once that you send back all Muslims back to their countries and take all the Jews living in Israel, so both parties shall have peace.

But you people develop cold feet when I say that and go into sleep mode!!

Why is it so?
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CIA Lies About Lies
The Iraq War and the Persistent Myth of ‘Intelligence Failure’

By Jeremy R. Hammond (Contd.)

On September 28, Bush stated,“The dangers we face only worsen from month to month and year to year … and each passing day could be the one on which the Iraq regime gives anthrax or VX nerve gas or someday a nuclear weapon to a terrorist group.” Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said on September 19, 2002, that Iraq had “amassed large clandestine stockpiles of biological weapons, including anthrax, botulism toxin, possibly smallpox.”“Less than a teaspoon of dry anthrax,” Colin Powell told his global audience in his presentation to the U.N., holding up a small vial filled with white powder,“about this amount—this is just about the amount of a teaspoon—less than a teaspoon full of dry anthrax in an envelope shut down the United States Senate in the fall of 2001…. If concentrated into this dry form, this amount would be enough to fill tens upon tens of thousands of teaspoons. And Saddam Hussein has not verifiably accounted for even one teaspoon of this deadly material.” Powell claimed that Iraq “had perfected drying techniques for their biological weapons programs” and had “incorporated this drying expertise” into “mobile production facilities”.

That Iraq had destroyed WMD in 1991 was public knowledge. The British dossier in September 2002 acknowledged that “Iraq destroyed unilaterally and illegally, some biological weapons in 1991 and 1992 making accounting for these weapons impossible.” The meaningless use of the adverb “illegally” aside, the relevance of this statement was that it implicitly acknowledged that there was no evidence that Iraq still possessed biological weapons. It rather shifted the burden of proof so that no such evidence was required; Iraq rather had to prove that it didn’t have such weapons. The dossier explained the issue regarding anthrax succinctly:“From a series of Iraqi declarations to the UN during the 1990s we know that by 1991 they had produced at least … 8,500 litres of anthrax”, but the UN inspectors “were unable to account for … growth media procured for biological agent production (enough to produce over three times the 8,500 litres of anthrax spores Iraq admits to having manufactured)”.

In other words, the Iraqis admitted to having produced 8,500 liters of anthrax before the Gulf War, but they could possibly have produced more. As Hans Blix similarly explained,“In most cases, the issues are outstanding not because there is information that contradicts Iraq’s account, but simply because there is a lack of supporting evidence” that it had destroyed all its WMD. That is to say, there was no evidence Iraq still possessed biological weapons; U.N. inspectors just hadn’t reached the point where they could declare that they had verified that all of Iraq’s WMD had been destroyed, as Iraq claimed. Blix explained further that “Iraq has declared that it produced about 8,500 litres” of anthrax,“which it states it unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991”. There was “no convincing evidence for its destruction”, Blix said, but he added that “Iraq has provided little evidence for this production”—that is to say, there was no evidence Iraq had destroyed all of its anthrax, but neither was there any evidence it still possessed any, and there was “little evidence” Iraq ever actually produced that much in the first place.
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Apr 27, 2013
 
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Your words did not answer my question.
Did Muhhumud feel a heavy heart when he had others not of Islam killed in battle.
How do you think god feels when mankind is seen to be killing others for the sake of their religion.
How can I answer this question? Ask YOUR army generals how they feel about the enemy casualties?

Ask your President and your Prime Minsters how they feel about enemy casualties in battle field.

Ask your media and News papers and other patriotic people, how they feel when they report our Drones have killed so many Al Qaida and Taliban activists?

Why you put so many tests about our prophet?

He never mutilated or disfigured any of the enemies dead and had them buried. He did not speak bad of people already killed Muslims or Non Muslims.

But if you think he said, both Muslims and Non Muslims killed in battle field will go to heavens, then you are wrong. Our prophet did not tell lies, so as to "please" some people.

He said 'Our dead are in Paradise and Your dead are in hell fire"

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Apr 27, 2013
 
Here's the guy that produced the film that made all the God Fearing Muslims to Flip out, Blow their Peace Loving Stacks and smash and MURDER around the world.

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakoula_Basseley...

An Egyptian born petrol station owner.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57517528/...

80 people were Murdered ? By peaceful god respecting people.

CRAP.1
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MUQ wrote:
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
CIA Lies About Lies
The Iraq War and the Persistent Myth of ‘Intelligence Failure’
By Jeremy R. Hammond (Contd.)
That Iraq had destroyed WMD in 1991 was public knowledge. The British dossier in September 2002 acknowledged that “Iraq destroyed unilaterally and illegally, some biological weapons in 1991 and 1992 making accounting for these weapons impossible.” The meaningless use of the adverb “illegally” aside, the relevance of this statement was that it implicitly acknowledged that there was no evidence that Iraq still possessed biological weapons. It rather shifted the burden of proof so that no such evidence was required; Iraq rather had to prove that it didn’t have such weapons. The dossier explained the issue regarding anthrax succinctly:“From a series of Iraqi declarations to the UN during the 1990s we know that by 1991 they had produced at least … 8,500 litres of anthrax”, but the UN inspectors “were unable to account for … growth media procured for biological agent production (enough to produce over three times the 8,500 litres of anthrax spores Iraq admits to having manufactured)”.
In other words, the Iraqis admitted to having produced 8,500 liters of anthrax before the Gulf War, but they could possibly have produced more. As Hans Blix similarly explained,“In most cases, the issues are outstanding not because there is information that contradicts Iraq’s account, but simply because there is a lack of supporting evidence” that it had destroyed all its WMD. That is to say, there was no evidence Iraq still possessed biological weapons; U.N. inspectors just hadn’t reached the point where they could declare that they had verified that all of Iraq’s WMD had been destroyed, as Iraq claimed. Blix explained further that “Iraq has declared that it produced about 8,500 litres” of anthrax,“which it states it unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991”. There was “no convincing evidence for its destruction”, Blix said, but he added that “Iraq has provided little evidence for this production”—that is to say, there was no evidence Iraq had destroyed all of its anthrax, but neither was there any evidence it still possessed any, and there was “little evidence” Iraq ever actually produced that much in the first place.
You are looking more backward each day . Read carefully " there were no WMDs" it was a mistake to refuse scientists investigating those claimsade against them " access to the intelligence Iraq did have " They would have then determined there was no threat ! Instead it was a wicked web of lies and taqiyya that led to the assumption Iraq may have developed something above Muslim intelligence capacity ! Iraq threatened UK previously with " the big gun " and again was taqiyya . We had a continued supply of oil and Sadam was a good business man. Of course he was praised and supported by his customers. Then he went Islam and taqiyya on his friends who then did not trust him anymore. They looked for someone else to trade with and that person had to be trained by intelligent non Muslims , but that Muslim had to show the capacity to trade with non Muslims ! Intelligence they lacked at that level . None were found ! A new government needed to be formed ! That took ten years of intensive education again to a race that had little mental capacity. Muslims claim to have invented math lol they simply stole it from the Greeks ! Muslims claimed to have invented the dome building ! Again stole the drawings and designs from Romans whom had been building concrete domes as big as the Pantheon millenniums before Muslim was a word ! Lots of lies, lots of taqiyya , lots of claims , lots of threats which demanded to be tested like Nth Korea at the moment !Islam monkey mentality .
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Apr 27, 2013
 
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>There is no such thing as Satan ! Satan is you yourself ! You either do good or you do bad as simple as that .
according to Islam ! Satan was no angel just Jinn ! The rest of the world believes Satan is the ultimate of evil, lies and deception. Sound familiar ? Yes like Muslims made in his image . I try endlessly to explain to non Muslim that Islam does not have Satan ! They can't grasp the notion that Muslims erased him from the bibles and Torah/Talmud they copied from to create the Quran . I tell them endlessly, if you were Satan and fashioned a religion would you defame yourself in your own book ? Quran ? They still can't believe Satan erased himself in the minds of all Muslims during the production of the Quran ! The "ultimate deception" , the ultimate prize for Satan ! 1.5 billion souls to populate hell and to prepare them Satan has made their lands hellfires so they willingly give up their souls. Muslims flee the lands shaped by Satan and modeled on hellfires ! They run to the lands of Christians and Atheists ! for Salvation, all it takes is for them to earnestly repent ! Jesus knows the difference between taqiyya and earnest repenting ! Trouble is, the only people on the planet who don't understand this is muslims ! They had that capacity to reconcile stolen from their populations by inbreeding Satan designed for them , so they would never have the capacity to work it out ! therefore committing even the unborn to the confines of hell under the rule of satan eternally. But to Muslim it is home away from home .
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Lee Fung wrote:
Here's the guy that produced the film that made all the God Fearing Muslims to Flip out, Blow their Peace Loving Stacks and smash and MURDER around the world.
Yes, but it is Satan who has fashioned Islam by greatest deceptions to believe in him above God, and it was Satan who stole the identity of the Moon God of the deserts tribes called Allah, just before Mohammed replaced his idols with that one false God ! Allah ! Kaaba is the only clue for none Muslims that Allah is nothing to do with Abraham or YHWH ! If Kaaba alter was made by Abraham ! Jews and Christians would have it recorded ! Master of deception Satan had 1.5 billion Muslims worshipping a false Hindu alter and false God Allah ! Muslims don't recognize Satan " eyes wired shut " Muslims don't understand because Muslims worship Satan and as Christians follow example of YHWH. Muslims follow failures designed for them by their God Satan ! Then flee to YHWH lands !
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MUQ wrote:
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How can I answer this question? Ask YOUR army generals how they feel about the enemy casualties?
Ask your President and your Prime Minsters how they feel about enemy casualties in battle field.
Ask your media and News papers and other patriotic people, how they feel when they report our Drones have killed so many Al Qaida and Taliban activists?
Why you put so many tests about our prophet?
He never mutilated or disfigured any of the enemies dead and had them buried. He did not speak bad of people already killed Muslims or Non Muslims.
we can separate our State from our Religion . We can vote out our Governments ! Their certainty is only as long as it is to the next election.! Islam creates despots ! Praises despots ! Islam and Despots is your world ! Choice of Religion and choice of Governments we control ! are the choices Satan denies Muslims.! But you don't believe Satan is Angel and Jesus is YHWH ! Don't you understand their is good and evil ! Satan is the ruler of all evil and YHWH is the ruler of all good ! Islam follows Satan , the rest follow YHWH or nothing ! People can be redeemed from nothing, but Satan holds onto Muslims tighter than atheists nothing holds them !
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The muslims are not Australia's enemy, they are the enemy of the Jews. WAKE UP!!!

I am a European Aussie and my grandfather was an SS Officer (TYhe one of thousands of SS who outsmarted the 'Nazi Humters', lol).

The Nazi's had it RIGHT.

Not that I agree with Genocide or mass execution however, I have been depicting the practices of the Nazi'z. By comparison their attrocities were handlesd quite humanly and efficient and they kept records.

Nazism was hated because it believed in preservation of pure blood lines giving ultimate intelligence and resistance to disease. Based on theories that have beens scientifically proven as fact for thousands of years. These things are being covered up due to forced immigaration, interbreading for the purpose of sustaining and increasing state wealth.

There are so many things I am finding that don't add up with he Nazi's. They say in 100 years no one will give a sh1t and its been 70 years and we are already seeing stuff come out of Europe now with more being accessible if you look for it in Russia.
Propaganda is a good weapon used against a Western and European society that opposes immigration based on a right to self identity, cultural preservation and sovereignty.

NO ONE can tell me that the most advanced society on earth Germany and the most populated white European nation had all its policies based on evil and nastiness. Its rediculous. They were based on scientific fact. The fact that the Germans (and Scandinavians') are arogant by nature makes them achievers- It demonstrates a positive self image (Van Deer, 1992) They are not sympathhy seekers like the bl@cks..

As for the Asian they are all crafty rats and should never be trusted. They have no respect for the environment or European culture and seek only greed and isolation.
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I suggested once that you send back all Muslims back to their countries and take all the Jews living in Israel, so both parties shall have peace.
But you people develop cold feet when I say that and go into sleep mode!!
Why is it so?
But you stinking Muslims don't want to live in your own sh^tholes, you always sneak into western countries, why don't you learn to keep your stinking citizens in your own countries?
We don't want you in our western countries, don't you understand that ??

And don't keep asking us to always help you. Learn to look after yourselves!!
A good example is Syria now.
The Syrian people are on their hands and knees pleading for us to help them. Why aren't you useless Muslims helping your own people?? Why is it that your so useless in helping the Syrian people that they have to resort to begging us for our help??

Clean up your stinking culture and religion and learn to look after yourselves, we are sick and tried of always trying to help you!!! Get into the 21 century already you useless Muslims !!!
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But you stinking Muslims don't want to live in your own sh^tholes, you always sneak into western countries, why don't you learn to keep your stinking citizens in your own countries?
We don't want you in our western countries, don't you understand that ??
And don't keep asking us to always help you. Learn to look after yourselves!!
A good example is Syria now.
The Syrian people are on their hands and knees pleading for us to help them. Why aren't you useless Muslims helping your own people?? Why is it that your so useless in helping the Syrian people that they have to resort to begging us for our help??
Clean up your stinking culture and religion and learn to look after yourselves, we are sick and tried of always trying to help you!!! Get into the 21 century already you useless Muslims !!!
I second that my Commonwealth friend. All these sorts enroach onto our pure, free and advanced lands.

They then bring their primitive ways of survival, that we are not akin to and reak havoc, usually criminally on our harmonious, intelligible society that was once based on mutual cultural affiliation.

We have lebanese businesses going up everywhere here in Australia. These people are forming Ghettos and will do anything for money. Anything. There are looting squads here in Australia, where Muslim men pillage properties and take almost anything salvagable for money- materials that are left out for councils to collect to support the local communities and sustain jobs for poorer Australians.

If I was in power I would only allow for Commonwealth and European nation immigration and maybe some Americans' if they could keep their mouths shut for 5 mins, lol... Personally I want Germans here!
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Serpent wrote:
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But you stinking Muslims don't want to live in your own sh^tholes, you always sneak into western countries, why don't you learn to keep your stinking citizens in your own countries?
We don't want you in our western countries, don't you understand that ??
And don't keep asking us to always help you. Learn to look after yourselves!!
A good example is Syria now.
The Syrian people are on their hands and knees pleading for us to help them. Why aren't you useless Muslims helping your own people?? Why is it that your so useless in helping the Syrian people that they have to resort to begging us for our help??
Clean up your stinking culture and religion and learn to look after yourselves, we are sick and tried of always trying to help you!!! Get into the 21 century already you useless Muslims !!!
Ps - The Muslim religion is for the primitive and down right crazy. Every Muslim I have met claims to live by his coran, yet gets p1ssed every day with his Asian girlfriend behind closed doors.

WTF is the US doing in the middle east anyway??? It's too far from home.

I had a Musi Uni. flatmate from stinking Indionesia here in Australia who use to beg me not to tell his Mommy he was drunk last night when she rang. Muslims are Pathetic, dishonourable war mongers masquarading behind religious BS...

The coran is 'a how to do' for apes and Allah was a child molester I am told, but I dont get that into it.

Oh, by the way I am a Catholic...
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MUQ - God is not with you.
It is you that is not safe.
Gabriel says "you are born into the sin of islam"
but you "have been told the truth of things".
He says 'you know Muhammad is of the devil, a false god".
He says if you repent you can save your soul.
If you do not repent, "he will come as the angel
with the three trumpet blasts, to smote you".
You will then burn in hell for eternity.
Anyway just passing the message on.
Amen.
People ask what does Gabriel look like ?
He is a very big muscled man with blue eyes
with a face that has seen much, harsh but fair, he is the special forces of our god Jesus lord.
He is tall and dressed in black with big metallic wings and carries a huge mace.
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His message to MUQ is very clear.
Time is up.
MUQ has had all the info as to why Islam is fake
& the quran is the devils work.
MUQ can't plead ignorance anymore, but procrastinated. MUQ is weak and is afraid to step into the light of truth.
Gabriel says MUQ has to firm up to either being of the devil worshipping Islam, or renounce Islam.
No more cut and pastes, no more shirk, no more taqiyya, no more kitman.
Time is up.
If MUQ doesn't renounce evil, then three trumpet blasts will sound. The sky will go black with clouds, these will part and down as a shining light will swoop Gabriel on his glittering wings like
drone launched hellfire targeted missile.
Then the smiting & smoting will begin.
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Time is up MUQ. No more delays.
Decide. Then you will be judged.
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Just passing a message on.

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Because of these ungrateful Criminal immigrants disturb the piece and attack our police over some middle eastern born Arab that made a video.
http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/09/...
And then all these hairy men wearing Dresses came out of the closet and went into the streets screaming.
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2012/09/...
That's why we care, as we don't have a strong government at the moment like you have in your country.
Actually i live in Sydney lol i changed my location
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Amen.
...the quran is the devils work...
(QUOTE EXTRACT ONLY)

The Quran is 'a how to do' for primates and war mongers...lol

Christianity is KING
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I WELL KNOW THIS ONE WILL BE VERY HARD FOR CONVICTS MENTAL LEVEL, BEING OF PEASANT BACKGROUND THEY ONLY UNDERSTAND RANTS AND ABUSES, BUT PLEASE TRY CONVICTS, ALL PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO IMPROVE THEMSELVES, EVEN BOGANS,.........READ ON

THE ROVING EYE
A post-history strip tease
By Pepe Escobar peasants

This is an abridged version of a lecture this week at the 13th Seminary of Political Solidarity Don Juan Chavez in memoriam at the University of Zaragoza, Spain.

How cozy it would be to summon the retro-spirit of Burt Bacharach to define our geopolitical future and start singing, "What the world needs now / is love, sweet love".

Sorry to scratch the vinyl. We interrupt this lovey-dovey to bring you breaking news. You have been catapulted to the age of the new Hobbesian "hero" - digital and virtual as well as physical.

Casino capitalism - aka turbocharged neoliberalism - is ruthlessly destroying the last vestiges of the welfare state and the egalitarian consensus in the industrialized West, possibly with the odd Scandinavian exception. It has established a "New Normal" consensus, intruding into private lives, dominating the political debate and institutionalizing for good the marketization of life itself - the final act of fierce corporate exploitation of natural resources, land and cheap labor.

Integration, socialization and multiculturalism are being corroded by disintegration, segregation, and widespread de-socialization - a direct consequence of the David Harvey-coined notion of "dis-accumulation" (society devouring its own).

This state of things is what Flemish philosopher and art historian Lieven De Cauter, in his book Entropic Empire, calls "the Mad Max phase of globalization".

It is a Hobbesian world, a latent global civil war, a war of all against all; the economic haves against the have-nots; intolerant Wahhabis against "apostate" Shi'ites; the children of the Enlightenment against all manner of fundamentalists; the Pentagon militarization of Africa against Chinese mercantilism.

The disintegration and balkanization of Iraq, detonated by the Pentagon's Shock and Awe 10 years ago, was a sort of prelude for this Brave New Disorder. The neo-con worldview, from 2001 to 2008, advanced the project with its ideology of Let's Finish Off The State, everywhere; once again Iraq was the best example. But from bombing a sovereign nation back to the Stone Age, the project moved to civil war engineering - as in Libya and, hopefully for the engineers, Syria.

When we have armchair analysts, influential or otherwise, paid by flush foundations - usually in the US but also in Western Europe - pontificating about "chaos and anarchy", they are just reinforcing a self-fulfilling prophecy. If "chaos and anarchy" turns them on, it's because they are just reflecting the predominant libidinal economy, from reality TV to all sorts of what De Cauter describes as "psychotic games" - inside a room, inside an octagon, inside an island or virtually inside a digital box.

So welcome to the geopolitics of the young 21st century: an age of non-stop war (virtualized or not), sharp polarization and a pile-up of catastrophies.
After Hegel, Marx and that mediocre functionary of Empire, Fukuyama; but also after brilliant deconstructions by Gianni Vattimo, Baudrillard or Giorgio Agamben, this is what we get.

For Marx the end of history was a classless society. How romantic. Instead, in the second half of the 20th century, capitalism married Western liberal democracy till death do them part. Well, death is now upon them both. The Red Dragon, as in China, has joined the party and came up with a new toy; single-party neoliberalism.
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An individualistic, self-indulgent, passive, easily controllable consumer drowned in a warped form of democracy that basically favors insiders - and very wealthy players; how could that be a humanist ideal? Yet the PR was so good that this is what legions in Asia, Africa, the Middle East and South America aspire to. But it's still not enough for the geo-economic Masters of the Universe.

Thus post-history as the ultimate reality show. And war neoliberalism as its favorite weapon.

Choose your camp
We are now familiar with Giorgio Agamben's paradigm of the state of emergency - or state of exception. The ultimate example, until the mid 20th century, was the concentration camp. But post-history is more creative.

We have the Muslim-only concentration camp - as in Guantanamo. We have the simulacrum of a concentration camp - as in Palestine, which is virtually walled and under 24/7 surveillance, and where "the law" is dictated by an occupying power. And we have what happened - as a dry run - last week in Boston; the euphemistic "lockdown", which is a suspension of the law to the benefit of martial law; no freedom of movement, no cell phone network, and you if you go the corner shop to buy a soft drink you may be shot. A whole city in the industrialized North turned into a high-tech concentration camp.

Agamben talked about the state of exception as a top-down excess of sovereignty, and the state of nature - as in Hobbes - as a bottom-up absence of sovereignty. After the Global War on Terror (GWOT), which, despite whatever the Pentagon says, is indeed eternal (or The Long War, as defined in 2002, and part of the Pentagon doctrine of Full Spectrum Dominance), we can talk about a merger.

The war on terror, seductively normalized by the Obama administration, was and remains a global state of exception, even though trappings come and go; the Patriot Act; shadowy executive orders; torture - a recent US bipartisan panel accused all top officials of the George W Bush administration of torture; extraordinary rendition, with which secular then allies of the West such as Libya and Syria collaborated, not to mention Eastern European nations and the usual Arab puppets, Egypt under Mubarak included; and the sprawling apparatus of homeland security.

As for a real concentration camp, once again we don't need to look further than Guantanamo - which, contrary to Obama's campaign promise, will remain open indefinitely, as well as some among the vast number of Bush-era CIA "secret" prisons.

In all these cases whatever happens to social life - suspension, dissolution, balkanization, implosion, a state of emergency - what happens to normal citizens is that citizenship (bios) evaporates. But ruling elites - political, economic, financial - don't care about citizenship. They're only interested in passive consumers.
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Apr 28, 2013
 
Pick your dystopia
The dystopias of the New Global Disorder are all being normalized. We're familiar with state terrorism - as in the CIA's "secret" drone war over tribal areas in Pakistan, in Yemen, Somalia and soon in other African latitudes. And we're also familiar with non-state terrorism, as applied by that nebula that we in the West describe as "al-Qaeda", with its myriad franchises and copycats.

We have a bunch of hyper-states - such as the US, China and Russia and the EU as whole - and myriad infra-states or failed states, some by design (Libya, and Syria is on the way), as well as satellite states, some essential to the Western-controlled system such as the Gulf Counter-Revolution Club (GCC - Gulf Cooperation Council).

It's always enlightening to look back at how the Pentagon interprets this world. Here we find an "integrating core" opposed to a "non-integrated gap". The "core" is what matters, in this case North America and most, but not all, of the EU. Sheepish, passive populations, with a consumer elite - the fast, mobile elites of liquid modernity, described by Bauman - and a vast mass of surviving toilers, a great deal of them expendable (as the millions of European victims of troika austerity policies who will never find a decent job again).

For the non-integrated gap, it's Hobbes all the way. In the case of Africa - until virtually yesterday derided as a black hole - there's an added geopolitical power play; how to counter-attack the extraordinary penetration of Chinese mercantilism over the last decade. The Pentagon's response is to deploy Africom everywhere; to subdue nations that are too independent, such as Libya; and in the case of the French elite, also on the bandwagon, to try to regain some imperial muscle in Mali, profiting exactly from the implosion and balkanization of Libya.

The look of post-history, its aesthetic ideal, is the city as theme park. Los Angeles may have been the archetype but the best examples are Las Vegas, Dubai and Macao. In the absence of Umberto Eco and Baudrillard, who reveled in the mirror images of simulacra, we may follow master architect Rem Koolhaas - a keen observer of the urban dementia in southern China - to learn what junk space is all about.

Then there's the security obsession - from cities like London turning into a sprawling version of Bentham's Panopticum to the pathetic strip tease ritual at every airport, not to mention the gated condo or "community", more like gated atoms, as the emblem of capsular civilization. Guerrilla counter-attacks, though, may be as lethal as Sunni Iraqis fighting the Americans in the "triangle of death" in the mid-2000s. In Sao Paulo, Brazil - the ultimate violent megalopolis - gangs "clone" cars and license plates, fool security at the door of gated condos, drive to the garage, and proceed to systematically rob each apartment in every floor.
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Conceptually, post-history cuts all corners. The flow of history is degraded as fake. Simulacrum trumps reality. We see history repeating not as tragedy and farce but as a double farce; an overlapping example is jihadis in Syria weaponized just like the former "freedom fighters" in Afghanistan in the 1980s anti-Soviet jihad conflating with the Western gang in the UN Security Council trying to apply to Syria what they got away with in Libya; regime change.

We also have history repeating itself as cloning; neoliberalism with Chinese characteristics beating the West in its industrialization game - in terms of speed - while at the same time repeating the same mistakes, from the mindless excesses of an acquisition mentality to no respect for the environment.

It goes without saying that post-history buries the Enlightenment - as favoring the emergence of all sorts of fundamentalisms. So it had also to bury international law; from bypassing the UN to launch a war on Iraq in 2003 to using a UN resolution to launch a war on Libya in 2011. And now Britain and France are taking no prisoners trying to bypass the UN or even NATO itself and weaponize the "rebels" in Syria.

So we have a New Medievalism that cannot but fit wealthy neo-theocracy - as in Saudi Arabia and Qatar; because they are Western allies, or puppets, internally they may remain medieval. Superimposed, we have the politics of fear - which essentially rules Fortress America and Fortress Europe; fear of The Other, which can be occasionally Asian but most of the time Islamic.

What we don't have is a political/philosophical vision of the future. Or a historical political program; political parties are only worried about winning the next election.

How would a post-state system look like? Independent minds don't trust mammoth, asymmetrical, wobbly blocs like the EU, or the G-20, or even aspiring multipolars such as the BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa - which still do not represent a real alternative to the Western-controlled system). No one is thinking in terms of a structural mutation of the system. Marx was beyond right on this: what determines history are objective, concrete, palpable processes - some of them very complex - affecting the economic and technological infrastructure.

What is possible to infer is that the real historical subject from now on is technology - as Jean-Francois Lyotard and Paul Virilio were already conceptualizing in the 1980s and 1990s. Technology will keep advancing way beyond the capitalist system. Techno-science is on the driving seat of history. But that also means war.

War and technology are Siamese twins; virtually all technology gets going as military technology. The best example is how the Internet completely changed our lives, with immense geo-economic and political ramifications; Beijing, in a 2010 white paper, may have hailed the Internet as a "crystallization of human wisdom", but no state filters more information on the Internet than China. Pushing the scenario to a dystopian limit, Google's Eric Schmidt argues, correctly, that with a flip of a switch, soon an entire country could even disappear from the Internet.

So, essentially, we may forget about a utopian regression to the state of the tribal nomad - as much as we may be fascinated by them, be they in Africa or in the Wakhan corridor in Tajikistan. If we survey the geopolitical landscape from Ground Zero to Boston, the only "models" are declinations of entropy.
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Now for post-history's favorite weapon: war neoliberalism. The best analysis these past few years by far is to be found in French geostrategist Alain Joxe's book Les Guerres de L'Empire Global.

Joxe mixes it all up, because it is all interconnected - the eurocrisis, the European debt crisis, occupations and wars, restriction of civil liberties, totally corrupted elites - to unmask the project of Neoliberalism's Global Empire, which goes way beyond the American Empire.

Financialization's ultimate goal is unlimited accumulation of profit - a system where the wealthy get much wealthier and the poor get literally nothing (or, at best austerity). The real-life Masters of the Universe are a denationalized rentier class - cannot even call them noblesse, because mostly their absence of taste and critical sense is appalling, as in purveyors of unabashed bling bling. What they do is to the benefit of corporations, instead of the protecting functions of states. In this state of things military adventures become police doctrine. And a new information technology - from drones to "special" munitions - can be used against popular movements, not only in the South but also the North.

Joxe is able to show how a technological revolution led at the same time to the IT management of that goddess, The Market, as well as the robotization of war. So here we have a mix of economic, military and technological mutations, in parallel, leading to an acceleration of decisions that totally pulverize the long span of politics, generating a system incapable of regulating either finance or violence. Between the dictatorship of the "markets" and social democracy, guess who's winning hands down.

In fact, Slavoj Zizek had already posed the key question, at least in terms of the Decline of the West. The (closet) winner is in fact "capitalism with Asian values'- which, of course, has nothing to do with Asian people and everything to do with the clear and present tendency of contemporary capitalism to limit or even suspend democracy".(See here.)

French philosopher Jean Claude Michea takes the political analysis further. He argues that post-modern politics has become in fact a negative art - defining the least bad society possible. That's how liberalism - which shaped modern Western civilization - became, as neoliberalism, the "politics of lesser evil". Well, "lesser evil" for who's in control, of course, and damn the rest.

In another crucial book, Michea comes up with the delightful metaphor of the neoliberal Adam as the new Orpheus, condemned to escalate the path of Progress with no authorization to look back.

Not many contemporary thinkers are equipped to thrash Left and Right in equally devastating measure. Michea tells us that both Left and Right have submitted to the original myth of capitalist thinking; this "noir anthropology" that makes Man an egoist by nature. And he asks how could the institutionalized Left have abandoned the ambition of a just, decent society - or how the neoliberal wolf has wreaked havoc among the socialist sheep.

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