Intelligent Design vs. Evolution: Evolution wins again. [Greg Laden's Blog]

Intelligent Design vs. Evolution: Evolution wins again. Posted on: September 29, 2009 7:38 PM, by Greg Laden An international team of researchers, including Monash University biochemists, has discovered evidence at the molecular level in support of one of the key tenets of Darwin's theory of evolution.

[nina]

evolution rules

religion drools

[Palawa]

Evolution can't lose, it's reality. Religion can't win as it's fallacy. Everything religion claims turns out to be false then, they deny it when their own beliefs prove them wrong. Science is the only thing which will opens up reality to us, just as it tears religious creation theories down, Their shroud has been debunked, they claim in their bible that a rainbow is sign from god and they are in touch with this god, who looks after them. All they have left to convince themselves and others is more lies and violence

Intelligent design, is unintelligent as we can show the evidence for evolution in fossils and geology.

[nina]

Palawa wrote:

...they claim in their bible that a rainbow is sign from god and they are in touch with this god,....

and yet, you can only see a rainbow from limited directions....

funny

[Palawa]

nina wrote:

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and yet, you can only see a rainbow from limited directions....
funny

But god followers only have extremely limited directions of intelligence, they are delusional directions and outcomes.

[Lil Ticked]

It is all about perspective.

[nina]

Lil Ticked wrote:

It is all about perspective.

true, they are clearly content seeing only a narrow aspect of the whole universe

[Ray]

Want more proof?

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Chaz]

Ray wrote:

Want more proof?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Typical bogus probability calculation. You can apply this kind of mathematical logic to just about any event or person in the world and deduce that everything is infinitely improbable.

Stop parroting the words of Missler. He's an idiot.

[Ray]

Chaz,

I think his résumé is a little better than yours. Given your reasoning, if he is an idiot you would have to be???? I'll let you figure that one out on your own. If you did however come to the conclusion that maybe you aren't what you just calculated then please take the time to watch the following despite your respected views.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Chaz]

Ray wrote:

Chaz,
I think his résumé is a little better than yours.

Okay then, tell me, exactly what does "Dr Missler" have a Doctorate in?

Ray wrote:

Given your reasoning, if he is an idiot you would have to be???? I'll let you figure that one out on your own.

Wow, an excellent rebuttal to my post. "No he's not, you are!"

You're representing your side of the debate brilliantly.

Ray wrote:

If you did however come to the conclusion that maybe you aren't what you just calculated then please take the time to watch the following despite your respected views.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Stop posting this same 1 hour lecture. I've been 15 minutes through it and found it neither interesting nor informative. It's a waste of my time. If Missler presents a particularly compelling argument, then PRESENT IT. Don't make us trawl through an hour or more of meaningless ramblings on the nature of time just because you can't make a point.

[Ray]

If you would have watched the whole thing you would have noticed what I was referring to. I apologize if I asked to borrow too much of your time. But that is OK because it would seem that by the drastic increase in the number of HITS since I posted the original link that is is going off the charts. Thanks again for your time. Have a good night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Chaz]

Ray wrote:

If you would have watched the whole thing you would have noticed what I was referring to. I apologize if I asked to borrow too much of your time. But that is OK because it would seem that by the drastic increase in the number of HITS since I posted the original link that is is going off the charts. Thanks again for your time. Have a good night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Look, it's really very simple: if Missler make a good argument, then you should present it. Why is it so hard for you to simply bullet-point his main arguments and allow us to respond, rather than posting a link to a video and running away? You would save us all a lot of time and effort.

[Palawa]

Missler has an MA in engineering and after looking at the video, I can't see his logic. In fact what he says in the first few minutes does the opposite as he hasn't included random effects, cumulative effects and chance. If you add those to his theory which is the norm in calculating possibilities, then his 60/40 scenario becomes 50/50 and random.

Missler is also one of the new style evangelists who are trying to steal every other mythology or science to try and support his theories, but they are all lies. He's saying 2012 is the year of the apocalypse and when jesus will come back and prove creationism and god as real.

Throughout history the god cult has first denied scientific advances, then when it was impossible to maintain their denial, tried to claim them for their own. God people are just insane primitive children grabbing at others sweets because they're incapable of making or getting their own.

[Ray]

I can tell by your time that you posted your remarks and the time that I posted mine, unless you have a time machine it would have been impossible for you to watch the entire video. So please don't lie in front of everyone. It makes your credibility very poor. Good day sir.

[Ray]

You haven't taken any of my remarks serious. You have predetermined your conclusion before a complete analysis of my postings. I thought perhaps you enjoyed TRUE science as I do. Thank you for your time and that will be enough. Good day sir.

[Chaz]

Ray wrote:

I can tell by your time that you posted your remarks and the time that I posted mine, unless you have a time machine it would have been impossible for you to watch the entire video. So please don't lie in front of everyone. It makes your credibility very poor. Good day sir.

He said he looked at it, not that he watched all of it. What's more, he provided a specific refutation of Missler's argument.

A refutation which you failed to respond to.

[Palawa]

Ray wrote:

I can tell by your time that you posted your remarks and the time that I posted mine, unless you have a time machine it would have been impossible for you to watch the entire video. So please don't lie in front of everyone. It makes your credibility very poor. Good day sir.

You dickhead, you posted it 3 hours before my post. The lies are all in the video and your head, why would I want to post about something I hadn't watched. I not a god follower, so have no need to lie as I have nothing to prove gain or lose. It's the unfolding facts which interest me and they don't include creationism or intelligent design by a myth.

[The Dude]

Ray wrote:

Chaz,
I think his résumé is a little better than yours.

Missler the peanut-butter man? Who has no scientific qualifications whatsover? And whose "scientific alternative" to evolution is "Goddidit"?

[The Dude]

Palawa wrote:

Missler is also one of the new style evangelists who are trying to steal every other mythology or science to try and support his theories, but they are all lies. He's saying 2012 is the year of the apocalypse and when jesus will come back and prove creationism and god as real.

Thing is, why do fundies give a fugg what heathen South American cults had to say about the end of the world?(shrug)

:-/

[Sheila]

Palawa wrote:

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But god followers only have extremely limited directions of intelligence, they are delusional directions and outcomes.

Hi, Palawa, we cool yet? Do you still hate me?