Melbourne sheik backs calls to legalise polygamy

A leader of Melbourne's Somalian community has called for pologymy to be recognised, citing it's growth in Australia.

[ngali]

This guy's doomed to be shot down in flames. Even Muslim women are dead against it.

""To suggest somehow that polygamy is an uncontroversial practice among Muslims misrepresents the practice in reality. It is a contentious practice and the majority of Muslims frown upon it," she said. Ms El Matrah said she felt that polygamy was on the rise because 10 years ago "we wouldn't have heard of it". Now her organisation is aware of several cases."

If the nutter Mormons can't do it - then neither can you guys. Sorry boys.

[turkey4ever]

nothing wrong with polygamy... we should have it enforced legally in this country..

[dee]

turkey4ever wrote:

nothing wrong with polygamy... we should have it enforced legally in this country..

Marriage in the Western world is one man + one woman. Anyone who wishes to opt out of the marriage is free to seek a divorce, then remarry if they choose. This isn't going to change, polygamy will never be legal in Australia.

And perhaps those who think it should be 'enforced', legally or not, would be happier living in an Islamic or African country.

Australian women have fought a long hard battle for their rights as equal human beings, being one of a herd of females belonging to some man is not part of our philosophy.

But this sheik has done a good thing in making Australians aware that some people in this country would be more than happy to force their ways onto us.

[news expo]

Polygamy has no place in Australia, this sheik must be deported back his dark cave or harem in somalia.

[Kazzi]

turkey4ever wrote:

nothing wrong with polygamy... we should have it enforced legally in this country..

Do you feel the same way about polyandry?

[Bob]

Kazzi wrote:

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Do you feel the same way about polyandry?

Thats is not a bad idea.
I would almost be a sex slave..But It would start arguments.
Who's turn is it to take the garbage..Or who's turn is it to shag the missus.

[dee]

Bob wrote:

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Thats is not a bad idea.
I would almost be a sex slave..But It would start arguments.
Who's turn is it to take the garbage..Or who's turn is it to shag the missus.

The only country I've ever heard of where polyandry is acceptable is Tibet.

[Bob]

dee wrote:

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The only country I've ever heard of where polyandry is acceptable is Tibet.

I'm still playing with the idea.

I'v got a headache...No its number 3s turn I'm number 4.
And will I have to start being Illiterate...Or even better,I can not go out in public with out an female escorts...do Qantas have flights to Tibet?

[dee]

Ah, the joys of polygamy! And look, it even protects women!

"For a woman of 38 with nine children, no money to spare and a husband devoted to voluntary community work, her face is free of worry. She [wife of Keysar Trad, director of the Lebanese Muslim Association] is even at ease with what she calls 'Keysar's pet topic': a second wife....

It has not been easy and they remember 1998 as their worst year when Trad fell in love -'became obsessed', his wife says - with another woman. In desperation, Hanifeh proposed marriage on her husband's behalf to the other woman.

'We were having a terrible time. He fell in love and I wasn't thinking about myself,' she says. But his obsession passed.'He became more compassionate after it,' Hanifeh says.'God meant for him to go through this experience and it made him a better person and more emotionally aware. It knocked him off his perch.'

Hanifeh was not heartbroken. A second wife would have meant divorce (though he was against it) or living under the same roof as her husband's mistress. As long as the arrangement was fair and had the consent of all involved, it would be acceptable."
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/10/01/103...

'In desperation'?'Having a terrible time'? What happened to her face being 'free from worry'? Why did she consider divorce if the situation is so natural and right?

"'In a sense, it’s a compliment to the original partner that if he didn’t find marriage to be so good why would he go into it again,' he said.

'In a sense, he’s saying that his first wife has made life like heaven for him so he’s willing to provide the same service, love and support to a second woman.'...

Asked if it was just about wanting sex with more women,(Trad’s wife) said:'Yeah it can be, but having it in the right way instead of having it in like go to prostitute or just date’".

So the second wife is a substitute for a prostitute? Have you ever heard such drivel?

Sharia by stealth.

[Bob]

Keysar Trad words and toilet paper have the same expiry date.

[wallabyedward]

This proves it, those bloody Muslims are crazy.

Putting up with one woman, who is also capable of having a daughter, who will grow to take her mother's side, can mean the end of any blokes hope to ever win an argument.

To take on two of the bastard's, Jesus Bloody Christ or Allah or whoever, those buggers must be insane, lol

[ngali]

turkey4ever wrote:

nothing wrong with polygamy... we should have it enforced legally in this country..

Are you a Kurd? I thought Ataturk put the kibosh on polygamy. If you're implying all Turks are for polygamy, you're insulting Turkishness!!

[news expo]

Ataturk was the greatest leader of his time, He banned polygamy in Turkey. He supported Women rights. The adoption of a new civil law in 1926 based on the Swiss Civil Code was the most important of Ataturk's reforms which tremendously effected the status of Turkish women. Providing equality before the law, it also replaced religious marriage with civil marriage, made polygamy illegal and gave women equal rights of inheritance, guardianship of children and divorce. Previously, Turkish men could have as many as four wives at a time, and divorce them at will with no recourse to legal action. When the Military law was discussed at a debate in the Grand National Assembly in 1927 the subject of eligibility of men for the office of deputy arose. Every speaker came out in favor of granting women the right to vote and to be elected to office. But still there was no movement to amend the electoral laws. Four years later, in 1930 when public opinion had been prepared for change, the municipal electoral laws were modified.

On the 5th of December 1934 a law concerning the election rights of women was debated in the Grand National Assembly, It had been signed by 191 of the deputies as it was presented. The bill for the new legislation is highly important in Turkish history and for the women of Turkey because it proposed that:

1. Every Turkish citizen who has reached the age of twenty-two, man or woman alike, has the right to vote in general elections.

2. Every Turkish citizen thirty years of age or older, man or woman alike is eligible for election to parliament.

[news expo]

turkey4ever wrote:

nothing wrong with polygamy... we should have it enforced legally in this country..

Why don't you join sheik and pack and go to somalia and have up to 20 women in your bed. Are you kurdish???? or somalian.

[ngali]

news expo wrote:

Ataturk was the greatest leader of his time, He banned polygamy in Turkey. He supported Women rights. The adoption of a new civil law in 1926 based on the Swiss Civil Code was the most important of Ataturk's reforms which tremendously effected the status of Turkish women. Providing equality before the law, it also replaced religious marriage with civil marriage, made polygamy illegal and gave women equal rights of inheritance, guardianship of children and divorce. Previously, Turkish men could have as many as four wives at a time, and divorce them at will with no recourse to legal action. When the Military law was discussed at a debate in the Grand National Assembly in 1927 the subject of eligibility of men for the office of deputy arose. Every speaker came out in favor of granting women the right to vote and to be elected to office. But still there was no movement to amend the electoral laws. Four years later, in 1930 when public opinion had been prepared for change, the municipal electoral laws were modified.
On the 5th of December 1934 a law concerning the election rights of women was debated in the Grand National Assembly, It had been signed by 191 of the deputies as it was presented. The bill for the new legislation is highly important in Turkish history and for the women of Turkey because it proposed that:
1. Every Turkish citizen who has reached the age of twenty-two, man or woman alike, has the right to vote in general elections.
2. Every Turkish citizen thirty years of age or older, man or woman alike is eligible for election to parliament.

Turkey wouldn't be the country it is without Ataturk. Did you know he was the guy that routed the ANZACS at Gallipoli? He was even enough of a statesman that his memorial for the Aussie and Kiwi troops almost makes me forgive him.

Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well.

Nice.

Then he goes and slaughters, disposses or uproots Armenians and Greeks, and deny Kurds their heritage. Tsk, tsk.

Partly due to the intense nationalism he fostered - it's actually an offence - in Turkey - to say anything deragatory about Ataturk or Turkey.

[wallabyedward]

Um, hello! is anyone there?

I thought you may all like to know, an AUSTRALIAN Government spokes person has made a statement which made it absolutely clear, it will NEVER approve this kind of arrangement, so you can all sit back, take a few deep breaths, and GET OVER THIS, it's not going to happen. Sheeeeeeeeeesh.

[Taser]

wallabyedward wrote:

Um, hello! is anyone there?
I thought you may all like to know, an AUSTRALIAN Government spokes person has made a statement which made it absolutely clear, it will NEVER approve this kind of arrangement, so you can all sit back, take a few deep breaths, and GET OVER THIS, it's not going to happen. Sheeeeeeeeeesh.

How many times has the "it will never happen here" been said only to see if overturned at some later stage. The facts are that a huge surge of peoples with very different cultural values is in Australia and demanding that their ways be recognised. This issue will not go away.

[ngali]

Taser wrote:

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How many times has the "it will never happen here" been said only to see if overturned at some later stage. The facts are that a huge surge of peoples with very different cultural values is in Australia and demanding that their ways be recognised. This issue will not go away.

Oh for the love of Jeff!

Muslims make up less than 2% of the population. Do you really think they're going to get their way on an issue like this?

That's not a 'huge surge', sorry. In any case the majority of those Muslims are Lebanese, where polygamy is VERY RARE and not socially acceptable.

Australia will recognise those polygamous marriages entered into overseas - but there won't be legal polygamous marriages any time soon.

I think this might be some of that over reaction stuff Wallabyedward was alluding to.

[Joe]

Is Oz bowing down to Dhimmitude?? Its finally happening here in the USA, especially since we might have a guy named Hussein as our President. I was shocked that the British released Abu Qatada, an Islamist hate monger who initially entered Britain as a refugee, went on the dole, and today preaches hatred against the country that gave him shelter, he also lives in a nice $2 million home in West London, this world really is sick.

[dee]

Taser wrote:

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How many times has the "it will never happen here" been said only to see if overturned at some later stage. The facts are that a huge surge of peoples with very different cultural values is in Australia and demanding that their ways be recognised. This issue will not go away.

Doesn't matter whether it goes away or not - Australian law will never allow polygamy, no matter how much Muslims bleat and demand. Women vote too.

"demanding that their ways be recognised"

If 'their ways' are so vital to their wellbeing, they should be living in a country compatible with their values.

The more they demand, the more opposition and dislike will be directed at them. Then they'll complain about 'racism' and how the nasty Aussies refuse to be enriched by their wonderfully superior and successful culture.