Afghan refugee charged over SIEV 36 i...

Afghan refugee charged over SIEV 36 incident

There are 21 comments on the Australian Broadcasting Corporation story from Dec 19, 2010, titled Afghan refugee charged over SIEV 36 incident. In it, Australian Broadcasting Corporation reports that:

Asylum seekers struggle in the water near Ashmore Island, north-west of Western Australia, after their boat SIEV 36 exploded in April 2009.

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“We don't have to take it”

Since: Jun 08

WhereTFamI?

#1 Dec 19, 2010
And another 2 boats arrived today... wonder how many are left in their own countries now, would be nice to know how many we are going to end up with. Oz population of 30m coming up real quick.

Asylum seekers arrive on Christmas Island

Updated 1 hour 5 minutes ago

The latest boat carrying asylum seekers has been brought safely ashore on Christmas Island.

There were smooth seas and clear skies as the group of asylum seekers on the boat intercepted near Ashmore Reef last week were unloaded in Flying Fish Cove.

Men, women, two young girls and a baby were among the group, some of whom were smiling, seemingly relieved that their long ocean journey had come to an end.

The asylum seekers were met by Customs and immigration officials and taken by bus to one of the island's detention centres for health and identity checks.

This afternoon authorities intercepted another boat carrying 56 asylum seekers and four crew near Ashmore Island.

It is expected to be three or four days before this boat arrives at Christmas Island.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/20...

“No carbon dioxide tax”

Since: Feb 10

bullet-proof tiger

#2 Dec 19, 2010
I was of the understanding that it only took around 3-4 days on these boats to get from point a to point b. I herd most of these boat/que jumpers fly to KL then to Indonesia to a hired local fisherman's boat, and from there it only takes a few days..
John

Singapore, Singapore

#3 Dec 19, 2010
SupaAussie wrote:
I was of the understanding that it only took around 3-4 days on these boats to get from point a to point b. I herd most of these boat/que jumpers fly to KL then to Indonesia to a hired local fisherman's boat, and from there it only takes a few days..
OMG..more MOSELEMS are reachin Aus..:(
John

Singapore, Singapore

#4 Dec 19, 2010
Gottaliv wrote:
And another 2 boats arrived today... wonder how many are left in their own countries now, would be nice to know how many we are going to end up with. Oz population of 30m coming up real quick.
Asylum seekers arrive on Christmas Island
Updated 1 hour 5 minutes ago
The latest boat carrying asylum seekers has been brought safely ashore on Christmas Island.
There were smooth seas and clear skies as the group of asylum seekers on the boat intercepted near Ashmore Reef last week were unloaded in Flying Fish Cove.
Men, women, two young girls and a baby were among the group, some of whom were smiling, seemingly relieved that their long ocean journey had come to an end.
The asylum seekers were met by Customs and immigration officials and taken by bus to one of the island's detention centres for health and identity checks.
This afternoon authorities intercepted another boat carrying 56 asylum seekers and four crew near Ashmore Island.
It is expected to be three or four days before this boat arrives at Christmas Island.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/20...
AUS is intaking more & more backward ppl..these ppl can't b true Australians.
Paper_Masochist

The Gap, Australia

#5 Dec 19, 2010
SupaAussie wrote:
I was of the understanding that it only took around 3-4 days on these boats to get from point a to point b. I herd most of these boat/que jumpers fly to KL then to Indonesia to a hired local fisherman's boat, and from there it only takes a few days..
Question: Since the queue is 17 years on average DESPITE the fact many countries including Australia manage to not fill their quota time and time again, would you prefer to wait in a detention camp in Afghanistan or Australia?

Yes yes yes I know you'd fight the oppressive countries government and army and everything but I'm just interested in why you're calling these people queue jumpers. Let's say you know you had to make a decision now or be killed with your entire family.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

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#6 Dec 20, 2010
This would be a good time for someone to go out along the Indonesian coastline and buy up every single boat capable of transporting large numbers of people and then burn them,seeing the refugee boats are normally burnt in Australia.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

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#7 Dec 20, 2010
Paper_Masochist wrote:
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Question: Since the queue is 17 years on average DESPITE the fact many countries including Australia manage to not fill their quota time and time again, would you prefer to wait in a detention camp in Afghanistan or Australia?
Yes yes yes I know you'd fight the oppressive countries government and army and everything but I'm just interested in why you're calling these people queue jumpers. Let's say you know you had to make a decision now or be killed with your entire family.
I have stated in our past that we should be solving the problems as to why these people are prepared to travel their family in such dangerous journeys to reach Australia.
Go to their home country and fix the problem
Paper_Masochist

The Gap, Australia

#8 Dec 20, 2010
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
I have stated in our past that we should be solving the problems as to why these people are prepared to travel their family in such dangerous journeys to reach Australia.
Go to their home country and fix the problem
We're already fighting two wars. How many do you want to fight?

“No carbon dioxide tax”

Since: Feb 10

bullet-proof tiger

#9 Dec 20, 2010
Paper_Masochist wrote:
<quoted text>
Question: Since the queue is 17 years on average DESPITE the fact many countries including Australia manage to not fill their quota time and time again, would you prefer to wait in a detention camp in Afghanistan or Australia?
Yes yes yes I know you'd fight the oppressive countries government and army and everything but I'm just interested in why you're calling these people queue jumpers. Let's say you know you had to make a decision now or be killed with your entire family.
Answer # 1 : Yes.
Answer #2: because they are que jumpers. You said your self "Since the queue is 17 years on average" So there is a que and these people jump the que.

“No carbon dioxide tax”

Since: Feb 10

bullet-proof tiger

#10 Dec 20, 2010
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
I have stated in our past that we should be solving the problems as to why these people are prepared to travel their family in such dangerous journeys to reach Australia.
Go to their home country and fix the problem
No, I think we should stay here and not let them in.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

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#11 Dec 20, 2010
Paper_Masochist wrote:
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We're already fighting two wars. How many do you want to fight?
Provide employment opportunities etc
Paper_Masochist

The Gap, Australia

#12 Dec 20, 2010
SupaAussie wrote:
<quoted text>Answer # 1 : Yes.
Answer #2: because they are que jumpers. You said your self "Since the queue is 17 years on average" So there is a que and these people jump the que.
That's the queue if you want to declare asylum status offshore. The reason they're not 'jumping' it is because despite the fact there's on average a 17 year wait, we regularly don't fill up our quota. This is because the huge wait for them to get here isn't due to us filing up our quota and them having to wait their turn, it's due to governments being assholes and not caring, essentially.

You can't jump a queue if the queue is just waiting around doing nothing.
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Provide employment opportunities etc
Dude. With all due respect, do you know what an asylum seeker is?
Paper_Masochist

The Gap, Australia

#13 Dec 20, 2010
SupaAussie wrote:
<quoted text>Answer # 1 : Yes.
Answer #2: because they are que jumpers. You said your self "Since the queue is 17 years on average" So there is a que and these people jump the que.
Yes isn't an answer to the first question. I said Afghanistan or Australia. I'm sorry if you're trying some smart reply and I don't get it, but I don't understand.

“No carbon dioxide tax”

Since: Feb 10

bullet-proof tiger

#14 Dec 20, 2010
Paper_Masochist wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes isn't an answer to the first question. I said Afghanistan or Australia. I'm sorry if you're trying some smart reply and I don't get it, but I don't understand.
I am so sorry. I should of said no. I would jump this process if I could and catch a boat, if i could..
Its been a long day + it is the silly season.

“No carbon dioxide tax”

Since: Feb 10

bullet-proof tiger

#15 Dec 20, 2010
I have been burning my candle at all 3 ends.
:)

“We don't have to take it”

Since: Jun 08

WhereTFamI?

#16 Dec 20, 2010
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text> I have stated in our past that we should be solving the problems as to why these people are prepared to travel their family in such dangerous journeys to reach Australia.Go to their home country and fix the problem
How much more responsible does Australia have to be before the bleeding hearts are satisfied?

All Australians contribute to Australia's aid program. Every week, around $3.30 in taxes from each of us pays for our aid program. This is around one per cent of Australian Government expenditure, compared to the 33 per cent spent on social security and welfare. Keep in mind that the "social security and welfare" is also paid to refugees and over 6,000 has been added to the list this year alone.

"In 2010–11, Australia will provide $4.3 billion worth of official development assistance. The Australian Government continues to increase aid in line with other donor countries. By 2015-16 the annual aid figure is estimated to reach around $8–9 billion."

"Australia's aid program focuses on the Asia Pacific region. We are internationally recognised for our leading role in the region, particularly in PNG and the Pacific. Our aid is even more important given two-thirds of the world’s poor—some 800 million people—live in the Asia Pacific, yet they receive less than one third of global aid. Australia also provides assistance to Africa, the Middle East, Latin America and the Caribbean. Our aid to Africa has increased significantly in recent years and now represents around five per cent of the aid program."

So Australia's overseas aid budget is set to rise to an estimated $8-9 billion by 2015? The gov must be expecting many more workers to pay taxes to achieve that goal - as well as increasing the taxes we already pay. Is this the real reason it wants to increase immigration for our population to be 30 million by 2020?
Turd Skin

Annandale, Australia

#17 Dec 20, 2010
Gottaliv wrote:
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How much more responsible does Australia have to be before the bleeding hearts are satisfied?
All Australians contribute to Australia's aid program. Every week, around $3.30 in taxes from each of us pays for our aid program. This is around one per cent of Australian Government expenditure, compared to the 33 per cent spent on social security and welfare. Keep in mind that the "social security and welfare" is also paid to refugees and over 6,000 has been added to the list this year alone.
"In 2010–11, Australia will provide $4.3 billion worth of official development assistance. The Australian Government continues to increase aid in line with other donor countries. By 2015-16 the annual aid figure is estimated to reach around $8–9 billion."
"Australia's aid program focuses on the Asia Pacific region. We are internationally recognised for our leading role in the region, particularly in PNG and the Pacific. Our aid is even more important given two-thirds of the world’s poor—some 800 million people—live in the Asia Pacific, yet they receive less than one third of global aid. Australia also provides assistance to Africa, the Middle East, Latin America and the Caribbean. Our aid to Africa has increased significantly in recent years and now represents around five per cent of the aid program."
So Australia's overseas aid budget is set to rise to an estimated $8-9 billion by 2015? The gov must be expecting many more workers to pay taxes to achieve that goal - as well as increasing the taxes we already pay. Is this the real reason it wants to increase immigration for our population to be 30 million by 2020?
That $3.30 would better used to buy your pornos where you get pumped and creampied by 8 midget abos. Am I right, Gottaliv?

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

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#19 Dec 20, 2010
Paper_Masochist wrote:
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That's the queue if you want to declare asylum status offshore. The reason they're not 'jumping' it is because despite the fact there's on average a 17 year wait, we regularly don't fill up our quota. This is because the huge wait for them to get here isn't due to us filing up our quota and them having to wait their turn, it's due to governments being assholes and not caring, essentially.
You can't jump a queue if the queue is just waiting around doing nothing.
<quoted text>
Dude. With all due respect, do you know what an asylum seeker is?
Do you know why we see so many leaving their home country?
Go to Jahore Baru in Malaysia and you shall find out

“No carbon dioxide tax”

Since: Feb 10

bullet-proof tiger

#20 Dec 20, 2010
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Do you know why we see so many leaving their home country?
Go to Jahore Baru in Malaysia and you shall find out
Going to Jahore Baru is like stepping back in time 20 years, compared to the Singapore. And if you go north it doen't get any better for another 40,000 km.

“No carbon dioxide tax”

Since: Feb 10

bullet-proof tiger

#21 Dec 20, 2010
Neville Thompson wrote:
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Do you know why we see so many leaving their home country?
Go to Jahore Baru in Malaysia and you shall find out
It might be because NO ONE needs a visa to go to Malaysia.

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