Australian MP wants caning back in schools

Sep 16, 2008 Full story: www.australiannews.net 63

A far right parliamentarian from Queensland has reignited the debate on sparing the rod and spoiling the child by demanding that caning be reinroduced.

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“Ngali”

Since: Jun 08

Perth

#1 Sep 16, 2008
More quality debate from Queensland's deep north. One Nation parlimentarians only seem good for garnering headlines.

Since: Jul 08

Mars

#2 Sep 16, 2008
I agree with him 100%. I was caned at school as kid and boy did it teach me respect for my teachers.

Kids today just think they can get away with whatever they want. Give em six of the best I say.

“Ngali”

Since: Jun 08

Perth

#3 Sep 16, 2008
I was caned by a teacher. It made me hate his guts.

The only children afraid of a caning are those who are good anyway. The bad arsed little renegades they're worried about reining in are beyond corporal punishment.

Since: May 08

United States

#5 Sep 16, 2008
MP? Military Police?
You have Military Police at your schools??!
MrsBlueBalls

Cincinnati, OH

#6 Sep 16, 2008
M4Pathfinder wrote:
MP? Military Police?
You have Military Police at your schools??!
MP stands for Member of Parliment

Since: Mar 07

Brisbane, Australia

#7 Sep 16, 2008
All the cane taught me was a deep and abiding hatred for formal schooling, teachers and authority figures.

If a teacher ever strikes my child I will go to town on that F*#KER like you wouldn’t believe.
dee

Kellyville, Australia

#8 Sep 16, 2008
My husband got the cane regularly along with many of his friends. All it did was to make them hate authority and teachers and learn to take pain without showing it. In fact, not showing pain became a point of honour.

They all thought the teachers involved got off on hitting kids.
Girl

Seattle, WA

#9 Sep 16, 2008
That pervert just wants to see girl's bottoms!
Michael Jansen

Nicosia, Cyprus

#10 Sep 16, 2008
I was caned at school and wish a belated thank you to the teachers who caned me. I had a very successful social and commercial career thanks to my disciplinary upbringing by my parents and school teachers.
dee

Kellyville, Australia

#11 Sep 16, 2008
Girl wrote:
That pervert just wants to see girl's bottoms!
lol, now you sound like my husband!

“Ngali”

Since: Jun 08

Perth

#14 Sep 17, 2008
dee wrote:
My husband got the cane regularly along with many of his friends. All it did was to make them hate authority and teachers and learn to take pain without showing it. In fact, not showing pain became a point of honour.
They all thought the teachers involved got off on hitting kids.
Exactly - that's all I ever saw coming out of caning when I was a kid.

How are you going to respect and trust someone who hits you?

Since: Jul 08

Mars

#15 Sep 17, 2008
Of course I hated the teachers who caned me. But it made me tow the line and be careful not to get my arse whipped again.Looking at schools these days kids just seem to think that they can do whatever they want.

“SHOWING THE WAY”

Since: Jul 08

Heart Chambers

#16 Sep 17, 2008
ngali wrote:
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Exactly - that's all I ever saw coming out of caning when I was a kid.
How are you going to respect and trust someone who hits you?
Ngali do you feel insecure now because you were caned as a child? Better still do you have children? Do you know what is it like to rear children?

“Ngali”

Since: Jun 08

Perth

#17 Sep 18, 2008
Gold_Fire wrote:
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Ngali do you feel insecure now because you were caned as a child? Better still do you have children? Do you know what is it like to rear children?
I see what you're getting at GF, and no I'm not insecure as a result of being caned, and yes I turned out fine despite being caned - BUT -

I wasn't trying to suggest there would be irreperable damage done to a child, who is physically punished.

But all kids are different, who knows?

I was only caned once, by a bitter divorcee who was taking out his frustrations by bullying his students. I didn't deserve it, and even as a child I knew that. I played up - sure - as all kids do, I talked in class, I hid comic books inbetween the pages, I drew elaborate war scenes when I was supposed to be doing math problems - so what?

That teacher was allowed to use corporal punishment - so he did. For something EVERY kid in their right mind does.

I refused to ever attend his class again, and would walk out when he arrived to teach. Caused enough fuss for to get him in trouble with the front office after a while.

He also gave the cuts to a few other kids, who would cry uncontrollably, and were terrified of him. Maybe they had a few problems later on, who knows?

I don't know what it's like to raise kids, but I've taught a few. You can always tell the kids who are physically punished at home, and those who aren't. The tearaways are used to being hit and they're much harder to reach because you need to gain their trust first, and it's hard to do with limited time. They're more wilful, more defiant and they generally make it harder to teach the whole class.

Caning and corporal punishment isn't damaging per se (unless it's done over a protracted period), but it's counterproductive.

A teacher hits a kid - it makes a kid rebellious. A parent hits a kid - it makes a kid sneaky.
Joe

Far Rockaway, NY

#18 Sep 18, 2008
It would make my job easier if they reintroduced this in the States. So many juvenile delinquents in NYC. I saw a fair number in Australia too. I am glad unlike Australian police, I could blow someone's head off if they sufficiently threatened me.
Rex

Australia

#19 Sep 18, 2008
Joe wrote:
It would make my job easier if they reintroduced this in the States. So many juvenile delinquents in NYC. I saw a fair number in Australia too. I am glad unlike Australian police, I could blow someone's head off if they sufficiently threatened me.
I carry a medium lightweight chrome baseball bat in my car.

I have been close to using it.

Generally they just walk off anyway.

Still, i'm glad i've got backup.
M4pathfinder

United States

#21 Sep 18, 2008
Question wrote:
Can parents provoke thier children to anger?
Um, what do you think?
Oh, here is a prime example of that:
http://fr.youtube.com/watch...

I've studied profiling & have watched for years-criminal shows, documentaries, & all things of the like about why criminals do what they do & this guy blames most everything on his Mom.

“SHOWING THE WAY”

Since: Jul 08

Heart Chambers

#22 Sep 18, 2008
ngali wrote:
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I see what you're getting at GF, and no I'm not insecure as a result of being caned, and yes I turned out fine despite being caned - BUT -
I wasn't trying to suggest there would be irreperable damage done to a child, who is physically punished.
But all kids are different, who knows?
I was only caned once, by a bitter divorcee who was taking out his frustrations by bullying his students. I didn't deserve it, and even as a child I knew that. I played up - sure - as all kids do, I talked in class, I hid comic books inbetween the pages, I drew elaborate war scenes when I was supposed to be doing math problems - so what?
That teacher was allowed to use corporal punishment - so he did. For something EVERY kid in their right mind does.
I refused to ever attend his class again, and would walk out when he arrived to teach. Caused enough fuss for to get him in trouble with the front office after a while.
He also gave the cuts to a few other kids, who would cry uncontrollably, and were terrified of him. Maybe they had a few problems later on, who knows?
I don't know what it's like to raise kids, but I've taught a few. You can always tell the kids who are physically punished at home, and those who aren't. The tearaways are used to being hit and they're much harder to reach because you need to gain their trust first, and it's hard to do with limited time. They're more wilful, more defiant and they generally make it harder to teach the whole class.
Caning and corporal punishment isn't damaging per se (unless it's done over a protracted period), but it's counterproductive.
A teacher hits a kid - it makes a kid rebellious. A parent hits a kid - it makes a kid sneaky.
Too involving to get into and as long as you turned out fine you be best not to complain

“Ngali”

Since: Jun 08

Perth

#23 Sep 19, 2008
I'm not complaining for myself, I just don't think it's at all helpful or smart to allow institutionalised physical punishment - in schools or the home.

“SHOWING THE WAY”

Since: Jul 08

Heart Chambers

#24 Sep 20, 2008
ngali wrote:
I'm not complaining for myself, I just don't think it's at all helpful or smart to allow institutionalised physical punishment - in schools or the home.
Strange how they always want to resort back to the old again don't you think? Seems that us oldies were not that old fashioned after all. Ask yourself why do they want to bring canning back again. Is the government going to rear our kids too and if so then Why? To be more brainwashed by instilling more fear for further control?

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