Gillard spruiks new education funding model

There are 15 comments on the ABC News story from Apr 14, 2013, titled Gillard spruiks new education funding model. In it, ABC News reports that:

ELEANOR HALL: But first to what The Prime Minister is calling "the biggest change to school education in 40 years". Today Julia Gillard and her team are talking up the Gonski funding model that they unveiled yesterday ahead of the Council of Australian Governments meeting this Friday.

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Since: Jul 12

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#1 Apr 15, 2013
Education was done in the past with far higher standards of english and maths on paltry money. It's not rocket science to teach primary and high school.

What is missing is the desire in the students to learn knowledge and skills intended for the era of manaufacturing and the assembly line. Now in present day conditions of the internet the barriers of distance and other traditional cost barriers of doing business and communication all over the world have disappeared.

Let alone the disappearance of old style employment and economy. For the most part the the vast majority jobs in the modern economy are unnecessary. The real economy is dwarft by the the size of the speculative economy with outstanding liabilities in various derrivatives used in the money markets and stock exchange going well into the quadrillions.

It's futile to teach dinosaur education to subjects that can't use it in a world where the manufacturing economy is is going the way of the dinosaur. Just talk the youth of Spain and Greece there youth unemployment runs as high as 40%.

Education needs to be relevant to life otherwise there will only be a small minority at all interested to learn. The life that the student is being prepared for has to be relevant to inspire. That means a new life not following the old ways in this new interconnected world of modern technology and coimmunication or otherise Australia is heading for the 40% youth unemployment steadily increasing over the map of Europe.
Foo

Australia

#2 Apr 15, 2013
Utter nagative bullshit....the proposal is whats needed....its been researched , and not by the government , by independant people from both sides of politics.....you are a new member of the negative anti-government lobby now ? do you wear one of those funny hats , like all the others?.......(lol)

“Fair & Balanced”

Since: Jul 12

wherever there's a mine

#3 Apr 15, 2013
Biggest mistake in education was abolishing trades at high school in preference to cattling kids to uni.

When I was at school I learnt basic welding & small engine mechanics along with maths, english, history & science. The high school also offered carpentry & sheet metal.

re-introduce introduction to essential trades back into school with a pathway that leads to aa apprenticeship & TAFE & realise not every kids is, or should be, destined for uni.
Foo

Australia

#4 Apr 15, 2013
The current modular apprenticeship system works well......particularly when it's combined with the schools Work-Experience programme.....it's also well funded by the government , so that it's not any imposition on the employer or apprentice. There's good incentives to train apprentices.....just need more employers to train them , and more school leavers to see the opportunities......although , if any kids are silly enough to listen to Tony Abbott , they'd probably be thinking more about suicide , than their future.......(lol)....thank God Rupert told him to shut up , and just stand there and smile , until after the election.

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Since: Jul 12

wherever there's a mine

#5 Apr 15, 2013
Foo wrote:
The current modular apprenticeship system works well......particularly when it's combined with the schools Work-Experience programme.....it's also well funded by the government , so that it's not any imposition on the employer or apprentice. There's good incentives to train apprentices.....just need more employers to train them , and more school leavers to see the opportunities......although , if any kids are silly enough to listen to Tony Abbott , they'd probably be thinking more about suicide , than their future.......(lol)....thank God Rupert told him to shut up , and just stand there and smile , until after the election.
Foo - country gone to crap since trade in schools abolished. We used to have 20% of kids leave school at 16/17 because they had an apprenticeship. That's now less than 8%. We are fast heading to a yanky model where less than 2% of kids leave school with an apprenticeship. And like America we have kids spending $20k on a 3 year bachelor of Arts degree in crap to go onto become a waitress or receptionist because they are not qualified for any real job.

Kevin Rudd once talked about going back to trades in school based on the German education model where about 40% of kids leave school with an apprenticeship. Germany has less than 2% of kids leave school and onto welfare ... we have 28% of kids leave school & go onto the dole. And the more apprentices we develop the less we need to import overseas workers. A win win situation.
Morton

Australia

#6 Apr 15, 2013
Foo wrote:
The current modular apprenticeship system works well......particularly when it's combined with the schools Work-Experience programme.....it's also well funded by the government , so that it's not any imposition on the employer or apprentice. There's good incentives to train apprentices.....just need more employers to train them , and more school leavers to see the opportunities......although , if any kids are silly enough to listen to Tony Abbott , they'd probably be thinking more about suicide , than their future.......(lol)....thank God Rupert told him to shut up , and just stand there and smile , until after the election.
This guy is not the full quid is he?

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#7 Apr 15, 2013
Gillard will continue to spruik unachievable goals based upon unachievable spending as a diversion from her true woes.
gilliar

Kellyville, Australia

#8 Apr 15, 2013
Foo wrote:
Utter nagative bullshit....the proposal is whats needed....its been researched , and not by the government , by independant people from both sides of politics.....you are a new member of the negative anti-government lobby now ? do you wear one of those funny hats , like all the others?.......(lol)
The trouble with Gilliar Foo is she talks the talk and that's it.
She talks about creating programmes with funding with money that she hasn't got in her hands. That's why so many of her reforms of disability, Gonski education report etc is a joke, because she knows it sounds good but ultimately she's not going to do it.
Proposals are just politician lipservice for "I have an election coming up that I know I'm going to get whipped in, so if I talk about popular things that I'm proposing to improve with money i haven't got, the gullible public won't suspect a thing"
Whites are subhuman

Castle Hill, Australia

#9 Apr 15, 2013
It's because whites are too stupid and useless to be employed and educating them is a waste of money.
gilliar

Kellyville, Australia

#10 Apr 15, 2013
Whites are subhuman wrote:
It's because whites are too stupid and useless to be employed and educating them is a waste of money.
Majority of whites are high earners, that keeps the toilet cleaners or centrelink lowlifes like you fed and watered.
Thank me later.
Whites are subhuman

Castle Hill, Australia

#11 Apr 15, 2013
gilliar wrote:
<quoted text>
Majority of whites are high earners, that keeps the toilet cleaners or centrelink lowlifes like you fed and watered.
Thank me later.
The dole must pay a lot these days.
gilliar

Kellyville, Australia

#12 Apr 15, 2013
Whites are subhuman wrote:
<quoted text> The dole must pay a lot these days.
I wouldn't know, why, why do you get on it?
Julie

Brisbane, Australia

#13 Apr 15, 2013
Morton wrote:
<quoted text>This guy is not the full quid is he?
No mate he's been on this forum for a long time and is just a shiiiiiiiit brain. Its a shame that others involve in discussing anything with this lame brain.
Gillard

Brisbane, Australia

#14 Apr 15, 2013
People on this Forum continually rubbishing me and my party for the Good work we have done in the last 3 years. I will continue to allow more ethnic migrants into this country and as for boat people just accept them. It s shame that more Australians arn't taking these people into there homes, this would save the tax payer a lot of money. When we get returned to office in September it will be my policy to offer Austalians the opportunity to take these refugees into there homes, and those that refuse will be the subject of a high tax rate to assist those that do take them. Remember I am the Prime Minister and you have to do as I say.
Asian Knight

Ipswich, Australia

#15 Apr 16, 2013
Bring in more Chinese , why not they work hard and don't whinge! We need more Aussies cleaning our toilets and ironing our clothes!

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