Booze Battle For Australia's Aborigines

Booze Battle For Australia's Aborigines

There are 71 comments on the Moray Firth Radio story from Jun 19, 2011, titled Booze Battle For Australia's Aborigines. In it, Moray Firth Radio reports that:

Australia's Prime Minister has been urged to raise the minimum price of alcohol to curb addiction among aborigines.

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white carnt

Australia

#1 Jun 19, 2011
How about just getting them to work for their money like everyone else? Oh that's right.. they turn up for work drunk don't they.
Elias

Australia

#2 Jun 19, 2011
Banning alcohol from aboriginal settlements is sensible, but it should be extended to the rest of the country, alcohol related violence and road deaths are inflicted on thousands of innocent people everyday. We all know The drunken perpetrators are not aboriginal.
Elias

Australia

#3 Jun 19, 2011
Sorry, that should be "inflicted on thousands of innocent people every year."
John

Greenslopes, Australia

#4 Jun 19, 2011
Elias wrote:
Banning alcohol from aboriginal settlements is sensible, but it should be extended to the rest of the country, alcohol related violence and road deaths are inflicted on thousands of innocent people everyday. We all know The drunken perpetrators are not aboriginal.
How about we just ban whining slandering wog parasites from white civilisation.

ksf

Since: Aug 07

South Perth, Australia

#5 Jun 19, 2011
Elias wrote:
Banning alcohol from aboriginal settlements is sensible, but it should be extended to the rest of the country, alcohol related violence and road deaths are inflicted on thousands of innocent people everyday. We all know The drunken perpetrators are not aboriginal.
Except banning substances doesn't work. Perhaps tougher punishments for crimes against people and property?
Individual responsibility should guide the law. Many have a drink and cause no trouble. I'd venture that most people who smoke dope don't do any harm either. And plenty maintain heroin habits without hurting others.

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Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#6 Jun 19, 2011
The dickheads who wrote this article are saying that cheap grog can be obtained for 1 pound fifty per bottle which is rubbish.
The prime minister needs her head read if she thinks putting up the price of alcohol is going to reduce consumption.
In the early eighties in the Alice the favoured drop was yellow label sherry,none other because it was rumoured that it was unwise to touch anything else because a couple of black fellas were poisoned drinking red label sherry outside the John Flynn Church in the main street and curled their toes up and died so yellow label sherry seemed to be the next best thing.
Then came along the idea that if the price was increased it would stop the consumption,this idea we supposed must have come directly from Canberra as they being the only ones capable of coming up with something so stupid.
The price was $2 per bottle,then increased to $2.30 then to $2.50,then to $3 and then $5 and eventually $7.50 and well whatever.
The publicans rubbed their hands in glee as what a gold mine lay in takeaway grog.
At last count there are about 97 grog licences in the Alice and they are about the only growth industry in that part of the world serving both black and white drinkers with an array of alcoholic beverages including metho served chilled for one's drinking pleasure of whom have that aquired taste.
RobobIogger

Kangaroo Point, Australia

#7 Jun 19, 2011
Neville Thompson wrote:
The dickheads who wrote this article are saying that cheap grog can be obtained for 1 pound fifty per bottle which is rubbish.
The prime minister needs her head read if she thinks putting up the price of alcohol is going to reduce consumption.
In the early eighties in the Alice the favoured drop was yellow label sherry,none other because it was rumoured that it was unwise to touch anything else because a couple of black fellas were poisoned drinking red label sherry outside the John Flynn Church in the main street and curled their toes up and died so yellow label sherry seemed to be the next best thing.
Then came along the idea that if the price was increased it would stop the consumption,this idea we supposed must have come directly from Canberra as they being the only ones capable of coming up with something so stupid.
The price was $2 per bottle,then increased to $2.30 then to $2.50,then to $3 and then $5 and eventually $7.50 and well whatever.
The publicans rubbed their hands in glee as what a gold mine lay in takeaway grog.
At last count there are about 97 grog licences in the Alice and they are about the only growth industry in that part of the world serving both black and white drinkers with an array of alcoholic beverages including metho served chilled for one's drinking pleasure of whom have that aquired taste.
Bring back the red label sherry then! Let's be realistic. What good are these people to anybody? In China drug addicts get a bullet to the back of the head. Nobody needs to walk down the street and trip over that useless filth! This isn't India you know!
Elias

Australia

#9 Jun 19, 2011
ksf wrote:
<quoted text>Except banning substances doesn't work. Perhaps tougher punishments for crimes against people and property?
Individual responsibility should guide the law. Many have a drink and cause no trouble. I'd venture that most people who smoke dope don't do any harm either. And plenty maintain heroin habits without hurting others.
Sure - My suggestion is the government slap an "additional" general tax of 80% on alcohol and tobacco so to get more revenue for public spending, reduce the toll on our health system, reduce violence against women and reduce road deaths.

Nobody can argue with that logic.
Beer rules

UK

#10 Jun 19, 2011
Elias wrote:
Banning alcohol from aboriginal settlements is sensible, but it should be extended to the rest of the country, alcohol related violence and road deaths are inflicted on thousands of innocent people everyday. We all know The drunken perpetrators are not aboriginal.
Be quiet muslim.

ksf

Since: Aug 07

South Perth, Australia

#11 Jun 19, 2011
Elias wrote:
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Sure - My suggestion is the government slap an "additional" general tax of 80% on alcohol and tobacco so to get more revenue for public spending, reduce the toll on our health system, reduce violence against women and reduce road deaths.
Nobody can argue with that logic.
Tobacco, perhaps, because it is universally bad.
Can't say the same for alcohol (though I don't drink).
I think punitive taxation and criminalisation are a last resort.
I remote 'dry' areas where booze is effectively criminalised, there is a thriving black market trade with astronomic prices for grog.
Many of the problems associated with illicit drugs are caused not by the drugs themselves but by their criminalisation, particularly the high prices this leads to. I'd legalise everything.
In the case of alcohol, increasing prices would just cause more problems. The majority would simply pay more for being responsible, while the minority would continue to cause problems. There was a case in the news yesterday where a guy at Alfred Hospital drank a load of disinfectant because it had alcohol in it. You just can't help some people.

ksf

Since: Aug 07

South Perth, Australia

#12 Jun 19, 2011
The 'black market' pun was unintentional - but pretty good
Elias

Australia

#13 Jun 19, 2011
ksf wrote:
<quoted text>There was a case in the news yesterday where a guy at Alfred Hospital drank a load of disinfectant because it had alcohol in it. You just can't help some people.
Yes I heard about this tosser. I know prohibition didn't work in the 1920s in USA. I still think it's worth regulating alcohol prices throgh taxation and distribution of alcohol based products? maybee combining with education is what's required?
Elias

Australia

#14 Jun 19, 2011
Beer rules wrote:
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Be quiet muslim.
It's ironic but my long term health may be compromised by my drinking earlier in my life. I would like to help people not make the same mistake I did. It has nothing to do with religion.
Elias

Australia

#16 Jun 19, 2011
Bugsy wrote:
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My dog has better logic then that.
Your names not Wallace?

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Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#17 Jun 20, 2011
Elias wrote:
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Sure - My suggestion is the government slap an "additional" general tax of 80% on alcohol and tobacco so to get more revenue for public spending, reduce the toll on our health system, reduce violence against women and reduce road deaths.
Nobody can argue with that logic.
It will be labelled descrimination by the blackfella lawyers
Drunken Idiots

Yangzhou, China

#18 Jun 20, 2011
Elias wrote:
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Yes I heard about this tosser. I know prohibition didn't work in the 1920s in USA. I still think it's worth regulating alcohol prices throgh taxation and distribution of alcohol based products? maybee combining with education is what's required?
It already exists throughout the entirety of Australian society - and there are drunken fuckwiths in every social class and race.

Try again.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#19 Jun 20, 2011
Elias wrote:
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It's ironic but my long term health may be compromised by my drinking earlier in my life. I would like to help people not make the same mistake I did. It has nothing to do with religion.
Why do you have to talk such utter shit, it's your diet and lifestyle now that has created your present condition, not what you did 30 years ago for a short time. Your mental condition is a big factor in health and as you're stuffed in the head, no wonder you're drug crazed biologically as well.

Alcohol is probably a bigger problem for the general society than for indigenous, but because general society is so huge, the problems are pushed under the rug for economic reasons. Whilst indigenous grog nutters with smaller populations are sensationalised because of they get drunk outside and generally fight amongst themselves.

Drunken brawls are a regular occurrence throughout every city nightly, crimes relating to alcohol, drugs and culture are massive within urban communities of every demographic.
blog robot

Melbourne, Australia

#20 Jun 20, 2011
Elias wrote:
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It's ironic but my long term health may be compromised by my drinking earlier in my life. I would like to help people not make the same mistake I did. It has nothing to do with religion.
so you haven't always been muslim?
Ahomana

Manning, Australia

#21 Jun 20, 2011
Elias wrote:
Banning alcohol from aboriginal settlements is sensible, but it should be extended to the rest of the country, alcohol related violence and road deaths are inflicted on thousands of innocent people everyday. We all know The drunken perpetrators are not aboriginal.
How would you know if these accidents and deaths are caused by Aboriginals or white's because the media don't post the race if you are anything bu caucasean when reporting on a crime.... and banning anything sends the problem some place else or underground...as a number of these communities have done that and it cleaned up their patch but this has pushed the problem out to the major towns Like Carnarvon and Darwin, Geraldton, Port Hedland,Roebourne, etc....and it cost them big bucks in transport and dealing with the ongoing drunkeness and violence that the indiginous are putting back on the town residence and law enforcement and medical staff....and they are dirtying up the parks because that's where they gather on payday just to get drunk and abusive..which makes them a dangerous and scummy place to be....especially if you are not an Aboringinal....

ksf

Since: Aug 07

South Perth, Australia

#22 Jun 20, 2011
blog robot wrote:
<quoted text>so you haven't always been muslim?
I don't know about Elias, but sounds like you are mistakenly assuming a Muslim wouldn't drink.
Get to know some Muslims and you might find some who drink, eat bacon, don't pray, don't fast during Ramadhan and engage in lots of other behaviour which would appear contrary to their faith.
Similarly, there are plenty of Christians who steal, lie, cheat and commit adultery.

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