Who Are The Real Children Of Israel?

There are 20 comments on the Jul 1, 2010, www.finalcall.com story titled Who Are The Real Children Of Israel?. In it, www.finalcall.com reports that:

In this Book of Genesis, we get lots of pictures of God, and His Promise. In Chapter 15, God is talking to Abram: “Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them and shall afflict them 400 years. But after that time”—God is speaking—“I will come! And I will judge that nation which they shall serve. And afterwards, shall they come out with great substance. And go to their fathers in peace, and be buried in a good old age.”The Jewish people claim that this is talking about them, but other than the Bible, there is no historical record of anybody named “Jews,” in bondage in Egypt for 400 years. There is no historical record of their suffering in bondage like that. Now, they were freed from a “bondage,” all right—but that was in the hills and cavesides of Europe! These people have no legitimate connection to The Holy Land

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Frijoles

Meriden, CT

#447 Jul 30, 2012
Trust Allah-God Almighty wrote:
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Excuse for what?
exactly!

and it is?

“Google Operation Northwoods”

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#448 Jul 30, 2012
Grow up
Frijoles

Meriden, CT

#449 Jul 30, 2012
...says the conspiracy theorest

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#450 Jul 30, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
...says the conspiracy theorest
That'd be... conspiracy theorist get it right.
https://www.google.com/search...
Frijoles

Meriden, CT

#451 Jul 30, 2012
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
That'd be... conspiracy theorist get it right.
I did get it right. But it appears the Topix censors changed it to make us look dumb. They do that often. I know this for a fact. Its the only explanation.

Anyway, conspiracy theorest rhymes with Mommy dearest, and that is what is important here.

“Jacobs SEED remains scattered”

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#454 Jul 30, 2012
The EWE people

WiKi states

The Ewe are essentially a ***patrilineal people*****; the founder of a community was the established chief, and was then usually succeeded by his paternal relatives. The Ewe are divided geographically between western part of Benin (formerly Dahomey), Togo (southern), and south-eastern parts of the Volta Region in Ghana. This area was colonized by the British and was originally called British Togoland. After the German defeat in World War I, the Ewe homeland, French Togoland was renamed Togo. The Republic of Togo gained independence from France on April 27, 1960. Most Ewe can trace male ancestors to their original villages and make their territorial divisions along those lines.

Traditionally, chiefs sit on a black stool. A white stool is reserved for 'honorary' chiefs. These are auspicious individuals who have been made a 'chief' as recognition for their contribution to a village. Certain rituals cannot be performed by an honorary chief, and must be attended by the true chief.

******The pouring of libations**** is an important ritual within Ewe society. Generally, only chiefs can pour libations, but sometimes, at a durbar, a linguist performs the role. Libations are poured three times, in honor of ancestors, life, and the libation's offerer himself.

10 From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia(West of the Nile) my suppliants(Worshipers), even the daughter of my DISPERSED("ISRAEL"), shall bring mine offering(LIBATION).

http://www.ghanatoghana.com/wp-content/upload ...

"And Jacob set up a Pillar in the place where he had spoken with him, a Pillar of Stone; and he poured out a drink offering on it, and poured oil on it".(Genesis 35:14)

http://www.bing.com/images/search ...

JUST ONE OF THE MANY TORAH RITUALS PRACTICED BY OUR DIRECT FOREFATHERS ALTHOUGH SOME OTHER NATIONS ADOPTED THE CUSTOM MANY CENTURIES LATER WE HAVE THE LONGEST HISTORY OBSERVING THESE RITUALS.

TO BE CONT.
Frijoles

Meriden, CT

#455 Jul 30, 2012
Not to discount the cultural worth of the ritual - but there is also the notion of convergent evolution.
Frijoles

Meriden, CT

#456 Jul 30, 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libation

A libation is a ritual pouring of a liquid as an offering to a god or spirit or in memory of those who have died. It was common in many religions of antiquity and continues to be offered in various cultures today.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

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** 9-11 was an inside job **

#457 Jul 30, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I did get it right. But it appears the Topix censors changed it to make us look dumb. They do that often. I know this for a fact. Its the only explanation.
Anyway, conspiracy theorest rhymes with Mommy dearest, and that is what is important here.
You are saying topix mods changed the spelling to make you look dumb?
Do you realize how 'dumb' that sounds.
Fess up boy, you made the error.

“Jacobs SEED remains scattered”

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#459 Jul 30, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L ibation
A libation is a ritual pouring of a liquid as an offering to a god or spirit or in memory of those who have died. It was common in many religions of antiquity and continues to be offered in various cultures today.
But like all the OT Isralite customs were taken from the land mass called Africa. Yes many converts like the ones you support adopted these customs centuries later.

http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T3QJ8ET4GLLJJ...

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#461 Jul 30, 2012
Leviticus 18 19

"'Also you shall not approach a woman to uncover her nakedness during her menstrual impurity."

Source : WOMEN IN AFRICAN TRADITIONAL RELIGIONS
by Kenneth Kojo Anti
Faculty of Education
University of Cape Coast
Cape Coast, Ghana, West Africa

The ritually 'dangerous' nature of women is expressed in notions about the polluting nature of blood, especially the blood of menstruation and of childbirth. It is such notions of pollution which underlie rituals intended to separate ‘unclean’ women from contact with others or to neutralize the sources of pollution.

"Thus in connection with religious functions menstruating women are banned from the shrines, neither are they allowed to handle or touch religious objects or personalities. For instance, among the rules to be observed by trainee priestesses is one which stipulates that she should voluntarily absent herself from the shrine for seven days each month during her menstrual period. This ban stems from the belief that menstrual blood is impure and dangerously harmful to sacred objects. Hence during this period women are banned from entering palaces, shrines and other places where rituals are performed."

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#462 Jul 30, 2012
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:"

Colossians 2:16

Ps 104,19 which declares:

"He created the moon for Mo'adim [appointed times]"

The Hebrew term Mo'adim [appointed times] is the same word used to describe the Biblical Holidays. Leviticus 23, which contains a catalogue of the Biblical Holidays opens with the statement: "These are the Mo'adim [appointed times

Our bro's in Nigeria observing this "Isralite" ritual.

“Jacobs SEED remains scattered”

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#463 Jul 30, 2012
Hebrews 11:28

Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.

Hebrews 9:21

"Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry."

Taken from the book Hebrewisms of West Africa, by Joseph J. Williams
(copy written in the 1930's) Pages 22 & 23

It's a historical fact that the mass majority of captive slaves brought to the Americas, came from West Africa, although some were brought from East Africa, they were the minority. The west African tribal nations that our forefathers were taken from, have many ancient Hebrew customs in there culture. The KAFFIR, BO, GREBO, MARIBUCK, MAVUMBA, AKRA, FANTI, AKIN, YORUBA, KONGO, AND ASHANTI. Just to name a few of the many sub-Saharan nations that engage in ancient Israelite rituals.

Such rituals includes

CIRCUMCISION,
THE DIVISION OF THEIR TRIBES INTO TWELVE, BLOOD SPRINKLING UPON THEIR ALTARS AND DOOR POSTS,
MARRYING OF THEIR BROTHER'S WIFE AFTER DEATH,
SEPARATION AND PURIFICATION AFTER CHILD BIRTH,
UNCLEANNESS DURING CHILD BIRTH,
UNCLEANNESS DURING MENSTRUATION
NEW MOON CELEBRATIONS.
Plus many more.

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#464 Jul 30, 2012
Taken from the book Hebrewisms of West Africa, by Joseph J. Williams

http://hebrewismsofwestafrica.blogspot.com/

PAGE 22 In the first place, many Hebrewism were discovered in the ASHANTI tribal customs. Then, several ASHANTI words were found to have a striking resemblance to those of equivalent Hebrew meaning. finally the supreme being of the ASHANTI gave a strong indication of being the "Yahweh" (YHWH) of the "old testament".

PAGE 23, It was indeed surprising how many HEBREWISM, either real or at least apparent, were to be found among the unislamised tribes.

PAGE 52 In both ASHANTI and Hebrew the traditional vowel sound is equally important for the true signification of words.

PAGE 56, Thus in conjugation of the verb the ASHANTI prefix the personal pronouns to the verb stem, the same as it is found in the imperfect of Hebrew.

PAGE 61, One cannot help being impressed by the number of customs and practices there described that find their counter part among the ancient Hebrews. Thus, for example the Mosaic law of intra-tribal-marriages, which was devised expressly to preserve the inheritance of the daughters in the tribe and family of their father (NUMBERS 36:12) finds a close verification among the ASHANTI of today. And the cross-cousin marriages, so characteristic of the latter, are strictly similar to that of the daughter of salphadd who wedded the sons of their uncle by their father (NUMBERS 36:2). Again the preserving of certain names in a family is as much sought after by the ASHANTI as it was of old among the Hebrews, as shown in the case of naming of John the Baptist when the objection was made, "there is none of your Kindred that is called by this name" (Luke 1:61).

PAGE 62, So also the remarkable simplicity of the ASHANTI marriage and the distinctive part that wine plays in the ceremonial reminds one of the ancient Hebrews

“Jacobs SEED remains scattered”

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#465 Jul 30, 2012
Taken from the book Hebrewisms of West Africa, by Joseph J. Williams

PAGE 63, Not only in the marriage ceremony itself but also in after marriage customs there is a strange similarity between the ASHANTI and the Hebrews. Thus, for example, for 8 days after the birth of a child the ASHANTI "mother is considered as unclean". It is only on the 8th day, at the Ntetea that the child receives its personal name, and on the 40th day a still further ceremony has to be observe. In all this we are certainly reminded of Hebrew customs. Further, the ASHANTI women at the menstrual period, even to the retirement to the bara hut, read like a page borrowed from the book of Leviticus,(15:19-20). And the system of ASHANTI ablution to prevent legal uncleanness constantly brings to mind similar practices which were common among Hebrews.

PAGE 66, Thus far, however, we have shown certain cultural elements common to the ASHANTI and the ancient Hebrews, such as the ob cult, religious dances, use of "Amen", vowel value, patriarchal system, parallel symbolism of Authority in "stool" and "chair", endogamy, cross-cousin marriages, familiar names, exogamy, simplicity of marriage rite and the part wine plays in the ceremony, uncleanness after child birth, purification ceremony, Menstrual seclusion. and ceremonial ablutions; besides ASHANTI loan words of apparent Hebrew origin.

PAGE 70, For they ascribe to god the attributes of omnipresence, omniscience, and Invisibility, besides which they believe that he governs all things by providence. By reason god is invisible, they say it would be absurd to make any corporeal representation of him. Wherefore they have such multitude of Images of their Idol gods which they take to be subordinate deities to the supreme god.

PAGE 72, In the very fact that the Hebrews, despite their service of the true god frequently relapsed into idolatry. Captain Rattray, finds a parallelism with the ASHANTI, where, as Bosman noted, one finds a belief in a supreme being side by side with multitudes of their idol Gods.

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#466 Jul 30, 2012
PAGE 78, And there is a common saying among the ASHANTI: no priest may look upon the face of his God and live which sounds remarkably like an echo of "Yahweh's" (YHWH) warning to Moses at Mount Sinai "Thou canst see my face for man shall not see me and live".

PAGE 80, The supreme being of the ASHANTI is identical with the god of the Christians, the Yahweh of the old testament: and further that their tribal worship is strangely parallel to that of the divided worship that existed in Jerusalem immediately prior to the Babylonian exile, as we will see later in more detail.

PAGE 82, The breastplate on the central figure, the Herald (Osene), who is called by Stanley the Town-Crier, is strikingly similar to the breast plate of the High Priest among the Ancient Hebrews, even to its division into twelve parts. The head dress of the Herald, too with its gold disc in front satisfies the description of the miznefet as given in the Jewish Encyclopedia. "A tiara, or perhaps a peculiarly wound turban, with a peak, the front of which bore a gold plate with inscription "Holy unto YHWH". However, the division of the breast plate into twelve parts is certainly distinctive. So also is the head dress with gold disc in front.

PAGE 83, The ASHANTI Myth might thus record progressive stages in the manifestation of "Yahweh" (YHWH) to the Hebrews; the burning bush; Sinai and the Covenant, that established the Nation as God's Chosen People.

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#467 Jul 30, 2012
I wonder who taught this West African this strict Levitical Custom? Nobody taught him, it was passed down.

cont.

PAGE 82, The breastplate on the central figure, the Herald (Osene), who is called by Stanley the Town-Crier, is strikingly similar to the breast plate of the High Priest among the Ancient Hebrews, even to its division into twelve parts. The head dress of the Herald, too with its gold disc in front satisfies the description of the miznefet as given in the Jewish Encyclopedia. "A tiara, or perhaps a peculiarly wound turban, with a peak, the front of which bore a gold plate with inscription "Holy unto YHWH". However, the division of the breast plate into twelve parts is certainly distinctive. So also is the head dress with gold disc in front.

Taken from Hebrewisms of west africa
http://www.hebrewisraelites.org/images/ashant...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MackUb31cBg/TES4m7l...

“Jacobs SEED remains scattered”

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#468 Jul 30, 2012
Now are these the dudes you support as the "real" Children of the Most High?

Ill admit they are Gods chosen. They never specify which god. I wonder why.

could it be their God is........

http://antimatrix.org/Convert/Books/ZioNazi_Q...

The Children of israel are scattered at this very moment.

Checkmate
Frijoles

Meriden, CT

#469 Jul 31, 2012
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
You are saying topix mods changed the spelling to make you look dumb?
Do you realize how 'dumb' that sounds.
Fess up boy, you made the error.
Yep, in fact I believe it was a false flag op made to piss people off at Topix.

I guess sarcasm eludes you.
Frijoles

Meriden, CT

#470 Jul 31, 2012
Judah Ben Levi wrote:
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But like all the OT Isralite customs were taken from the land mass called Africa. Yes many converts like the ones you support adopted these customs centuries later.
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/T3QJ8ET4GLLJJ...
SHow me the proof who the custom ORGINATED with.

I wish you good luck and an academic appointment.

(and no, quoting another scholar without divulging their research dating methodology does not count)

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