Mitt Romney’s Obamacare Problem

Mitt Romney’s Obamacare Problem

Posted in the Atlanta Forum

Rightwing

Lithia Springs, GA

#1 Jun 29, 2012
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has a decision on his hands … to slam or not to slam “Obamacare” in the wake of its surprise victory before the U.S. Supreme Court.
In its most important decision in more than a decade, the court ruled by the narrowest of margins that U.S. President Barack Obama’s socialized medicine plan is constitutional. The court also surprised many observers by upholding the law’s individual mandate – which compels Americans to purchase health insurance or pay a fine amounting to as much as 2.5 percent of their income.
This decision has (justifiably) infuriated fiscal conservatives and libertarians – as well as most Republican voters. Naturally Romney is going to want to tap into that angst.
But just how far can the GOP nominee go in slamming the court? After all, his own socialized medicine plan formed the blueprint for “Obamacare,” and Romney has been a steadfast supporter of the individual mandate (which he has referred in the past as the “personal responsibility principle”).

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#2 Jun 29, 2012
Rightwing wrote:
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has a decision on his hands … to slam or not to slam “Obamacare” in the wake of its surprise victory before the U.S. Supreme Court.
In its most important decision in more than a decade, the court ruled by the narrowest of margins that U.S. President Barack Obama’s socialized medicine plan is constitutional. The court also surprised many observers by upholding the law’s individual mandate – which compels Americans to purchase health insurance or pay a fine amounting to as much as 2.5 percent of their income.
This decision has (justifiably) infuriated fiscal conservatives and libertarians – as well as most Republican voters. Naturally Romney is going to want to tap into that angst.
But just how far can the GOP nominee go in slamming the court? After all, his own socialized medicine plan formed the blueprint for “Obamacare,” and Romney has been a steadfast supporter of the individual mandate (which he has referred in the past as the “personal responsibility principle”).
There are differences between Massachusetts Healthcare, and The ACA. There is no need to "slam the court". Check out the differences for yourself, and keep these three words in mind:
Desire, Honest, Transparent
ussurf

Stewartstown, PA

#3 Jun 29, 2012
How can Mitt slam Obama care after what he pulled in Massachusetts? Get real! That would be total hypocrisy.Looks like he painted himself into a corner.How do you suppose he can keep slamming Obama on healthcare when he endorsed the idea to begin with? I have never seen so much BS in my life.
Anyone that can possibly believe in Romney has a screw loose or a very big bank account.Follow the money, honey and the truth will be right beside the pot of gold.

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Since: Jul 11

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#4 Jun 29, 2012
ussurf wrote:
How can Mitt slam Obama care after what he pulled in Massachusetts? Get real! That would be total hypocrisy.Looks like he painted himself into a corner.How do you suppose he can keep slamming Obama on healthcare when he endorsed the idea to begin with? I have never seen so much BS in my life.
Anyone that can possibly believe in Romney has a screw loose or a very big bank account.Follow the money, honey and the truth will be right beside the pot of gold.
Go research the differences, and you will see for yourself.
ussurf

York, PA

#5 Jun 30, 2012
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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Go research the differences, and you will see for yourself.
I have done extensive research on Mr. Romney, the only problem is his stance on most issues changes so frequently, that one can not decipher what he believes in, from one day to the next.I have watched video after video, speech after speech,and investigated his time as Governor of Massachusetts, and came to the conclusion that he is the most indecisive man I have ever seen.
Perhaps the underlying problem stems from an old head injury, so I hate to bury the guy mercilessly,but he is to fickle and insecure to assume the roll of leadership in this country.
What if he started a war in say, Iran, and then two weeks later he changed his mind and wanted to end it? Or perhaps he would deny we even had troops there after sending 150,000 people across the globe.Americans need a stable leader, someone who is consistent,a man who has conviction, someone like Obama.

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#6 Jun 30, 2012
ussurf wrote:
<quoted text>I have done extensive research on Mr. Romney, the only problem is his stance on most issues changes so frequently, that one can not decipher what he believes in, from one day to the next.I have watched video after video, speech after speech,and investigated his time as Governor of Massachusetts, and came to the conclusion that he is the most indecisive man I have ever seen.
Perhaps the underlying problem stems from an old head injury, so I hate to bury the guy mercilessly,but he is to fickle and insecure to assume the roll of leadership in this country.
What if he started a war in say, Iran, and then two weeks later he changed his mind and wanted to end it? Or perhaps he would deny we even had troops there after sending 150,000 people across the globe.Americans need a stable leader, someone who is consistent,a man who has conviction, someone like Obama.
Research the differences between Romneycare and Obamacare, you will see differences. Frankly, i really don't care for Romney either, but he rates higher than Obama imo.
ussurf

York, PA

#7 Jun 30, 2012
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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Research the differences between Romneycare and Obamacare, you will see differences. Frankly, i really don't care for Romney either, but he rates higher than Obama imo.
I have spent countless hours studying these two men.I actually made a list for each of them, and then proceeded to give them each a score, and Obama scored higher than Romney.I know it sounds absurd but it was the only way that I could conclude my objective.I only have one chance to vote and I wanted it to count.Many folks chose Romney over Obama, and that is their business, but my conscience would not allow me to endorse a man with no conviction.Obama is committed to his plan, because he has a plan. I admire his courage, strategy and his stamina for achieving his objectives.I will vote for Obama in 2012.
Rightwing

Lithia Springs, GA

#8 Jun 30, 2012
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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There are differences between Massachusetts Healthcare, and The ACA. There is no need to "slam the court". Check out the differences for yourself, and keep these three words in mind:
Desire, Honest, Transparent
Mitt Romney has gone to great lengths to distance his Massachusetts health plan from the federal law, even giving a PowerPoint presentation to emphasize the differences. But the truth is that there are an awful lot of similarities between the plan he signed in Massachusetts in 2006, often called "RomneyCare," and the one that President Barack Obama signed in 2010, dubbed "ObamaCare."

Both leave in place the major insurance systems: employer-provided insurance, Medicare for seniors and Medicaid for the poor. They seek to reduce the number of uninsured by expanding Medicaid and by offering tax breaks to help moderate income people buy insurance. People are required to buy insurance or pay a penalty, a mechanism called the "individual mandate." And companies that don't offer insurance have to pay fines, with exceptions for small business and a few other cases.

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Since: Jul 11

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#9 Jun 30, 2012
Rightwing wrote:
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Mitt Romney has gone to great lengths to distance his Massachusetts health plan from the federal law, even giving a PowerPoint presentation to emphasize the differences. But the truth is that there are an awful lot of similarities between the plan he signed in Massachusetts in 2006, often called "RomneyCare," and the one that President Barack Obama signed in 2010, dubbed "ObamaCare."
Both leave in place the major insurance systems: employer-provided insurance, Medicare for seniors and Medicaid for the poor. They seek to reduce the number of uninsured by expanding Medicaid and by offering tax breaks to help moderate income people buy insurance. People are required to buy insurance or pay a penalty, a mechanism called the "individual mandate." And companies that don't offer insurance have to pay fines, with exceptions for small business and a few other cases.
You both (ussurf also) are missing the point. It's not that difficult, you've had enough clues to come up with three major differences. You just don't get it.
ussurf

York, PA

#10 Jul 1, 2012
Lets discuss the similarities first.By the way I have government health insurance, and I love it.Why, its the best health insurance I have ever had.Its so good, that its good, when its good. What was the question General Robert E Lee?You Should have named yourself after a General on the winning side of that war.Why not call yourself General Grant, or something more in tuned to victory.Go ahead have a drink on me Amigo! Have a nice day General.

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#11 Jul 1, 2012
ussurf wrote:
Lets discuss the similarities first.By the way I have government health insurance, and I love it.Why, its the best health insurance I have ever had.Its so good, that its good, when its good. What was the question General Robert E Lee?You Should have named yourself after a General on the winning side of that war.Why not call yourself General Grant, or something more in tuned to victory.Go ahead have a drink on me Amigo! Have a nice day General.
Negative on discussing the similarities, I agree, there are many. You are the one that needs to know the differences.
Also, My name, is my name, given at birth, and several scholars and historians believe The General to be among our greatest patriots and citizens.

If Obamacare is so good, why all the exemptions, especially for congress?
ussurf

York, PA

#12 Jul 1, 2012
General Robert E Lee wrote:
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Negative on discussing the similarities, I agree, there are many. You are the one that needs to know the differences.
Also, My name, is my name, given at birth, and several scholars and historians believe The General to be among our greatest patriots and citizens.
If Obamacare is so good, why all the exemptions, especially for congress?
The biographies of Lee will attest to the fact that Lee was a great strategist, and a great patriot, you are correct.I believe the problem in the South was money, they did not have enough money to properly finance their war.

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