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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“Vita e' Bella.”

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#182447 Mar 3, 2013
http://fox13now.com/2013/02/20/polygamous-fam...

SALT LAKE CITY — Joe Darger and his wife, Vicki, walked through the Capitol shaking hands with lawmakers like any other citizen lobbyist.
What exactly they’re asking their lawmakers to do is a little more unique: decriminalize polygamy.
“The way we are persecuting a particular religious group of people is wrong,” Joe Darger said.“It’s morally wrong, it’s ethically wrong, and we need to look at it. It hasn’t worked for 150 years and we need to change it.”
Darger, a polygamist with three wives, Vicki, Valerie and Alina, is hoping to get lawmakers to start considering the idea of decriminalization. He and Vicki came to the Utah State Capitol carrying copies of a book they wrote about their family, entitled “Love Times Three,” and handed them to lawmakers who stopped to chat with them.
“Right now, it is illegal for me to purport to be married,” Darger told FOX 13.“Simply by me claiming her as my wife, I’m considered a third-degree felon.”
The Darger’s political action comes as a lawsuit is winding its way through U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City that could do the same thing. Reality TV polygamist Kody Brown and his four wives, who star in the cable show “Sister Wives,” are challenging Utah’s ban on polygamy. A federal judge could rule on the case any day now.
“We’re not looking for legal recognition. We’re not looking for multiple marriage licenses,” Darger said.“That kind of concern isn’t out there. We’re just saying let’s decriminalize a group of people who aren’t criminals.”
Vicki Darger said she hopes lawmakers will at least consider her family’s perspective.
“We don’t really expect people to morally agree with us, but we do hope they will see our stand and what we’re committed to and help us to fight for our rights and stand up for the rights that we should have, as every citizen has,” she said.
With the “Sister Wives” case pending, anti-polygamy activists are also speaking up. Earlier that same day, the newly formed “Sound Choices Coalition” was handing out fliers to lawmakers urging them to uphold Utah’s anti-bigamy laws.
The Dargers insist that if polygamy were to be decriminalized, people would feel more free to report abuses that have been associated with their lifestyle.
“There’s so much secrecy that goes on simply because it’s against the law,” Vicki Darger said.
Lawmakers FOX 13 approached about the idea of decriminalizing polygamy quickly refused to comment. At a recent availability for reporters, House Speaker Rebecca Lockhart, R-Provo, said there is just no appetite amongst the body to even consider the idea.
Darger, who is a Republican delegate in Herriman, said he wasn’t giving up.
“We’re under no illusions,” he said.“This is a long battle. It’s not if, but when. But part of this is a political process as well, and the legislature can change that — and should change it

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#182448 Mar 3, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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"Is that an idealized image of the female form upon which (straight) men hang their fantasies, or your real leg?"
You really have to work on your insults...
Waitaminit! I didn't write all that Rosie, you're fibbing. I just asked if that was a leg lamp or your leg.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#182449 Mar 3, 2013
For those who don't know, "Frankie Rizzo" is a troll flying under false colors. He is really against gay marriage, and attacks anybody who is in favor of it, using the red herring of polygamy. He claims he's for polygamy, but I'd bet he's never, ever posted anything about the subject in a polygamy forum. He just wants to troll. And he is so dumb, that he thinks I'm talking about a fish when I say, "red herring".

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#182450 Mar 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I can;
The differences between marriage with/without kids and gay couples;
A apple tree bearing fruit.
A apple tree not bearing fruit for some reason.
A walnut tree who never bears any fruit wanting to be a apple tree.
A walnut tree hanging apples on it's branches pretending to be a apple tree.
Stupid, the ability to have children is not part of the definition of marriage, so your analogy doesn't hold water.

Guess your brain is made out of two different sets of tissue that don't communicate, and that's why you are so dumb.
Do you think you should have been aborted?
KiMare wrote:
Even funnier?
The idea you think you can create a decent analogy.
KiMare wrote:
The claim that if the government doesn't 'require' apple trees to bear fruit, then it is discrimination not to call walnut trees apple trees too!
Smile.
Do you think you should have been aborted?
You are just a waste of two sets of flesh.
:)

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#182451 Mar 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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We call that response 'scoffing masquerading as logic'. Nothing more than the opinion of a lazy idiot.
Perhaps you could rise to a reasoned rebuttal? Maybe your friends could help you with some brain Viagra to rise to the occasion???
I'm still waiting for a passionate discourse.
Snicker.
"Brain viagra"....fuh-nee stuff.:)

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#182452 Mar 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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On purpose, I've posted it both ways.
Keeping track on who avoids addressing the analogy because they have no answer.
You lose.
Smirk.
You dummy, I've addressed your "analogy" many times. The ability to have children is NOT part of the definition of marriage, so your analogy doesn't hold.
There.
Try again.

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#182453 Mar 3, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Stupid, the ability to have children is not part of the definition of marriage, so your analogy doesn't hold water.
Guess your brain is made out of two different sets of tissue that don't communicate, and that's why you are so dumb.
Do you think you should have been aborted?
<quoted text>
The idea you think you can create a decent analogy.
<quoted text>
Do you think you should have been aborted?
You are just a waste of two sets of flesh.
:)
the formal union of a man and a woman, typically recognized by law, by which they become husband and wife

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#182454 Mar 3, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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You dummy, I've addressed your "analogy" many times. The ability to have children is NOT part of the definition of marriage, so your analogy doesn't hold.
There.
Try again.
the formal union of a man and a woman, typically recognized by law, by which they become husband and wife:

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#182455 Mar 3, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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...and somehow, you think your little "survey" is scientific, eh? Tell us about your control methods. What was the margin of error? Has World Nut Daily offered to publish your study? Who did the peer review, Dr. Regnerus?
You are completely clueless.
Oh the studies conducted on "children of same sex parents". Huge sample base there. Yes sir ree X Box

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#182456 Mar 3, 2013
http://healthland.time.com/2012/12/04/top-10-... ...

Top 10 Marriage Stories

5. Polygamy Activism

Polygamists, perhaps emboldened by the gains made by same-sex-marriage activists, have started advocating for their type of family. In February, Kody Brown, husband of four, father of 17 and the central figure in the popular Lifetime reality show Sister Wives, sued the state of Utah, claiming religious discrimination. He and others, including the Darger family (three wives, 26 children), have been writing and talking openly about their way of life in an effort to have polygamy decriminalized. The courts in Utah have agreed to hear the case.
Car Parker

West Covina, CA

#182457 Mar 3, 2013
California politicians busted for spending taxpayer money on New York entertainment

By LEONARD GREENE
Last Updated: 11:14 AM, October 28, 2010
Posted: 12:43 AM, October 28, 2010

As if New York doesn't have enough crooked politicians of its own ...

The bright lights of Broadway beckoned corrupt California officials to cross the continent and spend taxpayer money on nights at theaters, baseball games and pricey dinners at the Big Apple's finest bistros, authorities charged yesterday.

The four were from Irwindale, a bustling metropolis of just over 1,400 people where the main entertainment is watching cars at the local speedway.

The bureaucrats and politicians did have enough taste to pass on Los Angeles, just 20 miles away, for the allure of the world's greatest city.
SMALL-TOWN 'BIG' THINKERS: Irwindale, Calif., City Councilman Mark Breceda (left) and former Councilwoman Rosemary Ramirez appear in court yesterday to face charges they and two colleagues illegally lavished the charms of the Big Apple on themselves with taxpayer money.
AP
SMALL-TOWN 'BIG' THINKERS: Irwindale, Calif., City Councilman Mark Breceda (left) and former Councilwoman Rosemary Ramirez appear in court yesterday to face charges they and two colleagues illegally lavished the charms of the Big Apple on themselves with taxpayer money.

They were busted yesterday for misappropriating public funds to finance the trips, which took place between 2001 and 2005.

They claimed they had to come to New York to pitch for a higher municipal-bond rating, and they did manage to squeeze in some time on Wall Street when they weren't hanging out in Times Square.

They lived high on the New York hog, staying in five-star hotels, guzzling $250 bottles of wine and spending evenings on Broadway watching "Mamma Mia" and "Phantom of the Opera," authorities said.

"Mostly they partied quite a bit," Los Angeles Deputy DA Nipa Cook said.

"They spent money on Mets and Yankee games and Broadway shows."

Councilman Mark Breceda, retired City Manager Steve Blancarte and retired finance director Abe De Dios are charged with five felony counts. Former Councilwoman Rosemary Ramirez faces one count.

Prosecutors said the officials used public money to pay for $250 Yankee tickets; $260 tickets to "Follies" on Broadway and $1,027 for brunch at The River Café.

On a trip in 2003, they had only eight hours of scheduled meetings, yet they spent six nights at the lavish Ritz-Carlton, checking in on a Saturday night, even though no business meetings were scheduled for Sunday.

They also saw a matinee of "Jackie Mason's Laughing Room Only" followed by dinner at Atelier on Central Park South.

Former Councilwoman Rosemary Gutierrez, who came along on one of the trips but was not charged with a crime, justified their actions by saying New York is an expensive place to do business.

"It's not like we were meeting in Irwindale or in the state of California," she told reporters. "It was New York."

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#182461 Mar 3, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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We call that response 'scoffing masquerading as logic'. Nothing more than the opinion of a lazy idiot.
Perhaps you could rise to a reasoned rebuttal? Maybe your friends could help you with some brain Viagra to rise to the occasion???
I'm still waiting for a passionate discourse.
Snicker.
I'm still waiting for an intelligent comment from you. After you provide one I'll provide you with a reasoned rebuttal. In the mean time I'll continue with the valid scoffing.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182462 Mar 3, 2013
Wonder who's obsessively rigging the judge-its like it matters or something?

Can anyone imagine what kind of loser would do that?

Anyone?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#182463 Mar 3, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
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I'm still waiting for an intelligent comment from you. After you provide one I'll provide you with a reasoned rebuttal. In the mean time I'll continue with the valid scoffing.
I guess the Viagra didn't help, still limp brained...

Snicker.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182464 Mar 3, 2013
I just have to interrupt here for a minute and ask, what kind of loser would sit around obsessively rigging the judge-its over and over again?

Can anyone imagine what kind of loser would do that?

Jizzy? Dan? Bill? Xavier?

YUK!YUK!YUK!

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#182465 Mar 3, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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the formal union of a man and a woman, typically recognized by law, by which they become husband and wife
That definition violates the 14th Amendment, so it should be changed.
LiesSGV

Covina, CA

#182466 Mar 3, 2013
George Ogden the great pain in the backside liars club president.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182467 Mar 3, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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That definition violates the 14th Amendment, so it should be changed.
What should be changed, the definition or the 14th amendment?

YUK!YUK!YUK!
LiesSGV

Covina, CA

#182468 Mar 3, 2013
George Ogden the great pain in the backside liars club president.

Along with is side kicks, Steve Herfert.

Steve Herfert just couldn't resist spouting more of his racist West Covina, California carp.

Could Shelley Sanderson, Rob Sotelo (a plumber) and Andrew Mcintyre really be racists after all?

Don't ya just love it when racists come out of the closet? Doing it in public was such a stupid move on their part, but you know that's how racists operate these days and of old days too.

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#182469 Mar 3, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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LOL. Look idiot, you don't have to be able to procreate in order to marry!
Sheesh.
Nobody said you did, again you are failing miserably in your comprehension of the law.

But why don't you tell us again how your know more about the law than the judge?

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