UC president proposes new 8 percent s...

UC president proposes new 8 percent student fee hike; funds needed to close gap from lower state ...

There are 65 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Nov 9, 2010, titled UC president proposes new 8 percent student fee hike; funds needed to close gap from lower state .... In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Hallie Kraus, a third-year student in psychology from Atascadero, says she is managing with grants, but her younger sister is looking to attend college outside the UC system With University of California students still stinging from a 32 percent fee increase over the last year, UC President Mark Yudof announced Monday he is proposing an additional ...

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Dave

Daly City, CA

#22 Nov 9, 2010
one other thing, i know a guy working at UC in an administrative roll with housing ... his salary is on record > $97,000 per annum + all those perks .. early retirement, low cost health care , subsidized child care, subsidized pension etc .. and YOU are paying .
it's a scam ...
High School Graduate

Santa Cruz, CA

#23 Nov 9, 2010
Ring a Bell wrote:
Jerry Brown wants to slash money from the criminal justice system and hand it to the UC Regents.
Ring a Bell? As in, the California town and their City Managers.
Graduates from the UC system are giddy, out of touch, and essentially unemployable.
I do better hiring a highschool drop out and training them myself.
What is your business name? I will be sure to stay away.
Whatever

Campbell, CA

#24 Nov 9, 2010
I wonder how hip the students would be if they found out their endorsement of illegal immigration was costing them their education. Too bad no one has taught them about the lack of a free lunch but then again all they've ever known is entitlement. When they figure out that giving away the resources of this state because a person has a certain skin color I think will be the dawning of a whole new age for them
Maybe

South Gate, CA

#25 Nov 9, 2010
UC employee wrote:
<quoted text>
I can't speak for the upper admin, but faculty pay scales have gone up about 15% since 2000 - an assistant professor in most fields earns about $60K, up from $51.5K in 2000. According to http://www.aier.org/research/worksheets-and-t... , that's a 10% pay *cut* in inflation-adjusted dollars. A 16% pay cut would put faculty salaries today *below* 2000 levels.
Sorry, but rising faculty salaries are *not* responsible for increased tuition.
We're talking tenured faculty not assistant professors.

Also there is a huge amount of waste in that those tenured professors teach only one class a quarter - let's double it to two classes a quarter. That will save a bundle.

Let's see how long (if ever) it takes students to get a clue

Since: Oct 10

San Mateo, CA

#26 Nov 9, 2010
@Ray in Santa Cruz,
You are completely spot on. I am all for negotiating with your employer for the best package you can get. The problem with the public sector typically is that the politicians, regents, etc. don't have to deal with the long-term consequences of giving it all away. Historically taking a public sector or tenured position had lower pay to compensate for guaranteed, safe employment. In the past 30 years it has become not only guaranteed, safe employment, but lucrative as well. In this case the students and middle class families suffer the consequences directly in addition to the taxpayers.

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BlondeAmbition

Wilmington, DE

#27 Nov 9, 2010
Perhaps an Answer wrote:
UC Santa Cruz pays Rural wages to Santa Cruz Campus. People working here are already making less than other UC's. Santa Crusis one of the most expensive places to live in the State. As a staff member I have not had a raise in years, we have been on furloughs. My rent has gone up $110.00 a month, my health insurance is tripling, and we are now paying into the retirement system. I am barely keeping up with it. Don't judge people unless you know the full story.
Wah, wah, wah...Poor baby !!

If it is so bad then leave.
Pedro

Santa Cruz, CA

#28 Nov 9, 2010
Ring a Bell wrote:
Jerry Brown wants to slash money from the criminal justice system and hand it to the UC Regents.
Ring a Bell? As in, the California town and their City Managers.
Graduates from the UC system are giddy, out of touch, and essentially unemployable.
I do better hiring a highschool drop out and training them myself.
Really. I graduated from UCSC and I have a good job making 180K a year. Every one of my friends who graduated from there that I can think of has a good job. You think dropping out of high school makes you "in touch and employable"?

Let me guess you own a burger king franchise?
Sere Ball

Santa Cruz, CA

#29 Nov 9, 2010
Perhaps an Answer wrote:
UC Santa Cruz pays Rural wages to Santa Cruz Campus. People working here are already making less than other UC's. Santa Crusis one of the most expensive places to live in the State. As a staff member I have not had a raise in years, we have been on furloughs. My rent has gone up $110.00 a month, my health insurance is tripling, and we are now paying into the retirement system. I am barely keeping up with it. Don't judge people unless you know the full story.
Oh yeah? You might want to look past the sweeping meadows and ocean views down at the city where unemployment is skyrocketing and families have no health insurance whatsoever. Why should you as a "state employee" be getting raises when the rest of the population is being laid off and taking pay reduction to keep their jobs?

F. U. and everyone of you state employees who act entitled to high pay, retirement, health care.
Charles Bronson

Livermore, CA

#30 Nov 9, 2010
I bet Mr. Yudof won't be taking a pay cut.
disabuser

Oakland, CA

#31 Nov 9, 2010
California is nuts wrote:
80,000 per year families"
"My message to [lower income] students is don't be alarmed by what you may read in some of these newspapers," Yudof said. "We've got you covered."
120,000 a year families
Sorry, you have to pay for the other families.
See where your hard work goes? What if the family has 4 children? How could an increase not effect them any less than anyone else.
Often families with $80,000+ incomes have them because there are two earners. It can work out that the second income is subject to the highest marginal rates. When you combine federal and state income taxes as well as payroll taxes that works out to about 50%. Now if the second earners income also disqualifies the family from not having to pay $12,000 in tuition and fees for their kid in college, it's like a surtax. Families should really do an examination of their real after tax and tax-like policies such as UC's so they can make an informed judgment just how much a second earner is really taking home from their job.
J Reece

Eureka, CA

#32 Nov 9, 2010
I wonder how 'The Dream Act' tuition breaks and financial aid for immigration scofflaws will further impact UC/CSU finances and the course availability and fee issues facing citizen students. The answer is it doesn't matter. The sanctuary/amnesty crowd doesn't give a rat's behind about adverse immigration impacts on citizen interests.
Norm Bei

Brentwood, CA

#33 Nov 9, 2010
The UC System and more specifically UCSC may want to read a recent WSJ article entitled "Putting a Price on Professors -Texas A&M". Yes, Universities are a business. They try to make money outside of State Funding - grants, sports, intellectual property, etc. If they actually tried to run like a business they'd cut all cash negative professors and programs for starters. Twenty five years ago, when the Universites seemed to be in the black and cranking out bright scholars they did not have programs like "Hispanic Womans Studies" and "The History of Consciousness". They focused on the basics, with a few specialties, and did not cower to pet majors designed by pet professors. These programs are money losers and they'll kill a University which is what they are doing now.
Thinker

United States

#35 Nov 9, 2010
This is great. Higher fees, fewer students at UCSC, rents go down, fewer drum circles and fire spinning.

This is a form of population control, rent control, wierd control and fair voting practice all rolled in to one. Raise it 20% and really do some good for Santa Cruz. Sweet.
Wescruz

Santa Cruz, CA

#36 Nov 9, 2010
These politicians encourage everyone to "tighten their belts" as things are tough. How come they don't urge the
university system to back off on milking the students??
Why cannot the greediest be forced to take less also?
These fat butt administrators that are running things should tighten their belts and take pay cuts and get rid of the perks. Many things can be done to save money and try that first rather than coming after the very people the entity is in existence for.
erik

Aptos, CA

#37 Nov 9, 2010
Ring a Bell wrote:
Jerry Brown wants to slash money from the criminal justice system and hand it to the UC Regents.
Ring a Bell? As in, the California town and their City Managers.
Graduates from the UC system are giddy, out of touch, and essentially unemployable.
I do better hiring a highschool drop out and training them myself.
You're right, good smurffers are hard to find.
I LOVE ICE

Capitola, CA

#38 Nov 9, 2010
The entity was set up for legal residents of California. The system was not set up to support thousands of illegal aliens having babies here who get to have a "FREE" education. If you want anything to change, start calling ICE.
The students and their "for the children" and "they just want a better life than they have in Mexico" parents created this mess.

"who="Wescruz"] These politicians encourage everyone to "tighten their belts" as things are tough. How come they don't urge the university system to back off on milking the students??"
Davenator

Salinas, CA

#39 Nov 9, 2010
If the students try to protest, Kliger will just send in the storm troopers without warning like he did last time. Mace and billy clubs and not even a meager attempt to come to a resolution or even hear their grievances. Furthermore you will all be fined for exaggerated damages, even if you didn't cause them.

Being the coward he is, he won't even claim responsibility for his job this time. He has pawned it off on another administrator.

Also...

Blumenthals pay = over 400k with perks.

Kligers pay = over 400k with perks.

I know where I would get the revenue from
Econ101

Daly City, CA

#40 Nov 9, 2010
Now see, isn't it good that the voters rejected legally taxed marijuana? That would have increased pot prices due to the taxation. With all the tax money UCSC students save on their 4-20, there's enough to pay increased tuition.

Of course, there are hard-working STEM students who study instead of smoking pot, but those jobs are going to India and China anyways, so it doesn't matter much.
Tell Us

Daly City, CA

#41 Nov 9, 2010
Pedro wrote:
<quoted text>
Really. I graduated from UCSC and I have a good job making 180K a year. Every one of my friends who graduated from there that I can think of has a good job. You think dropping out of high school makes you "in touch and employable"?
Let me guess you own a burger king franchise?
Tell us what your job is, Pedro. Tell us whether it was your UCSC degree, or an additional degree from somewhere else. Tell us whether it was a gubmint job that takes race and gender into account. Tell us whether your family connections helped. Tell us whether "every one of my friends" means that you would not associate with poor people.
no way

Alameda, CA

#42 Nov 9, 2010
Hello, I'm barely making it in town, two working parents and a mortgage - but we make more than 80k. Not much more, but some. That doesn't get us very far, but we do pay our taxes and don't take vacations, live frugally. I'm interested in sending my kids to UCSC, but this makes me mad. I work really hard and I'm not interested in paying the tuition of a family that makes 50 to 80k a year.

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