UC president proposes new 8 percent student fee hike; funds needed to close gap from lower state ...

Hallie Kraus, a third-year student in psychology from Atascadero, says she is managing with grants, but her younger sister is looking to attend college outside the UC system With University of California students still stinging from a 32 percent fee increase over the last year, UC President Mark Yudof announced Monday he is proposing an additional ...

[this is just wrong]

It is just wrong for:
1. Students to have to pay blood money for their own brainwashings - indoctrination not education! As well as graduating with $80-100G in student loans.
2. College/university administrations to Greedily ludicrously raise tuitions. They should be cutting their own bloated salaries & perks! Contrary to so-called economic analysts, the "Great Recession" (aka Depression) is not over - and even if it was, Greedily soaking students is wrong.

[Me and My Shadow]

Here at UCSC we LOVE diversity (tweet tweet) But only if your stinking rich, all you other peasants need not APPLY.

[Ring a Bell]

Jerry Brown wants to slash money from the criminal justice system and hand it to the UC Regents.

Ring a Bell? As in, the California town and their City Managers.

Graduates from the UC system are giddy, out of touch, and essentially unemployable.

I do better hiring a highschool drop out and training them myself.

[bubble]

Mark Yudof is conducting an experiment... the question is, at what price level will UC students (or their parents) realize they're paying too much for the value received?

Education inflation has been rampant for many years, few steps have been taken to contain cost, students are paying far more than ever, massive student loan debt has become common, and the troubled economy isn't rewarding graduates as it once did.

As a commodity, higher education has formed a bubble... and now waits for the day when buyers begin walking away.

[California is nuts]

80,000 per year families"
"My message to [lower income] students is don't be alarmed by what you may read in some of these newspapers," Yudof said. "We've got you covered."

120,000 a year families
Sorry, you have to pay for the other families.
See where your hard work goes? What if the family has 4 children? How could an increase not effect them any less than anyone else.

[LARDO]

Hey does any one know how to get on with the state, city or county, I can't find work.

[bcjams]

how about an 8 percent decrease in salaries to cover the costs. close all programs that have no economic value. math science computers engineering and business only. the rest is just fluffy propaganda we cannot afford.

[Maybe]

Maybe the students will get a clue and ask for the tenured faculty and upper admin to take a 16% cut to match the fee increases.

[Annie]

Ring a Bell wrote:

Jerry Brown wants to slash money from the criminal justice system and hand it to the UC Regents.
Ring a Bell? As in, the California town and their City Managers.
Graduates from the UC system are giddy, out of touch, and essentially unemployable.
I do better hiring a highschool drop out and training them myself.

I LOVE THIS !!!
So true :)

[SC Native]

Time to roll some joints
and hit the streets in
protest!

[Dancer]

Yudof is trying to pay for all of those anchor babies to go to college. Did you think those illegal aliens were just going to keep their babies in the fields with them?

So you thought you were getting cheap childcare or landscaping? Ah, now you are paying for your illegal worker's children to go to school with your child.

It started out with some free food, but unless you get serious about family planning, YOU and your children will be paying the way for the anchor babies of today and tomorrow.

[Heard it Before]

The whole premise behind cutting state funding is to get this bunch of over paid educators to cut their spending, not pass the bill on to students. There should be a statewide boycot of all UC and CSU systems until they do something about the fee structure of our universities.

[Tea party time]

Tenure needs to be eliminated. Pensions needs to run like 401k plans. Admin budget and each departmental budget needs to be cut. Low income student should not get a free ride instead pay a somewhat lower tuition, recall that these folks can work.
On that topic SC need to attract some industry. Only high paying jobs in SC is government and these empire builders would never cut anything (they're as ignorant as the folks on top of the hill).
Regular folks including myself have had to reduce expenses.
Time to get some Tea Party folks involved at least these guys knows the value of a dollar.

[UC employee]

Maybe wrote:

Maybe the students will get a clue and ask for the tenured faculty and upper admin to take a 16% cut to match the fee increases.

I can't speak for the upper admin, but faculty pay scales have gone up about 15% since 2000 - an assistant professor in most fields earns about $60K, up from $51.5K in 2000. According to http://www.aier.org/research/worksheets-and-t... , that's a 10% pay *cut* in inflation-adjusted dollars. A 16% pay cut would put faculty salaries today *below* 2000 levels.

Sorry, but rising faculty salaries are *not* responsible for increased tuition.

[Ex Liberal]

But this is Liberal Socialist Land and our esteemed Democrat politicians promised a free education for all!

CA voters elected to continue with a majority controlled Democrat Socialist Assembly and Senate to continue the gravy train at no cost to the proletariat!

The various government unions shovelled tens of millions of dollars to ensure they were able to continue with their generous wage and comensation packages and the students could expect no cost increases!

What the hell happened? Have the Democrats lied again?

[Dancer]

This is true:
rising faculty salaries are *not* responsible for increased tuition.

California has turned into a welfare state. The UC system is trying to find a way to pay for the children of illegal aliens--they are the ones who will benefit from this tuition hike.

There are too many illegal individuals having a bunch of babies that they will never be able to provide for financially -- the taxpayer gets too, or in this case, the family that was making the smart financial and family planning decisions pays for their own child and now they have to pay for the anchor children.

[tar plants]

No wonder homeless avoid UCSC like the plague. No free money!

[Ray in Santa Cruz]

"UC faces a $21 billion unfunded liability gap for its post-employment benefits plan.
"

And they think they have a problem now, just wait until this deficit hits the system.

UC as the absolute, most generous benefit package of any governmental entity and well beyond what the private sector offers.

Even if the university decided to reduce this liability over 50 years, it will cost them $420 million per year on top of the new retired added to the rolls.

The notion of two tiered retirement plans, retain one for existing employees, and a different one for new, is nonsense.

Employment contracts are short lived, usually 2 to four years. No where in employment contracts does the notion of "for long as you are employed" exist. The terms of health and retirement plans can be changed when the existing contract expires.

This is the opportunity to offer a simple "Two Tiered Plan". You can keep the existing retirement and health plan, or the new one. All you, as an employee, have to do is pay the difference.

[Dave]

just another way to screw the middle class out of more money, convince them their kids need an over priced college education.

In the scheme of things $11,000 doesn't sound too bad though ? compare that with private college fees..? my kids aren't at college age yet, but have heard it can cost $30k to $40k and up .? who would pay that ? sell my house to send them to college ? rely on the stock market ?

[Perhaps an Answer]

UC Santa Cruz pays Rural wages to Santa Cruz Campus. People working here are already making less than other UC's. Santa Crusis one of the most expensive places to live in the State. As a staff member I have not had a raise in years, we have been on furloughs. My rent has gone up $110.00 a month, my health insurance is tripling, and we are now paying into the retirement system. I am barely keeping up with it. Don't judge people unless you know the full story.