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Asian Men Must Stop Being In Denial And Man-up!

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AussiPino

Since: Jan 12

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#1 Apr 15, 2012
Why are Asian men such wimps? Here I am talking about those in Asia and in Western countries. They let men of other races push them around belittling, emasculating, and condescending them.

Even those who were born in Australia, America and other Western countries, they are either so wimpy or arrogant little men. For example, Chinese and Korean men are passive, quiet and pushovers whereas some of the Vietnamese and Cambodians are arrogant and boorish. There is no middle ground.

Asian men are either in denial about Asian women chasing White men, or they complain about it without taking action on improving the situation. If Asian men were more masculine and assertive, more Asian women will be attracted to them, including women of other races.

Are the over-smothering, dictating Asian mothers got to do with all of this? Is it because Asian cultures tend to be more passive and feminine compared to non-Asian cultures?
Jeff

El Cajon, CA

#2 Apr 15, 2012
Buddhism and religion is to blame for their passiveness. Through thousands of years of living this way, they've developed a "passive" gene.

It's inherit in their DNA.

I love it though because it's easier to exploit their women.

Since: Jan 08

Jamaica, NY

#3 Apr 15, 2012
Jeff wrote:
Buddhism and religion is to blame for their passiveness. Through thousands of years of living this way, they've developed a "passive" gene.
It's inherit in their DNA.
I love it though because it's easier to exploit their women.
Asians and White have very happy relationships.

There is no exploiting, only win win situation for both parties.

Since: Jan 08

Jamaica, NY

#4 Apr 15, 2012
AussiPino wrote:
Why are Asian men such wimps? Here I am talking about those in Asia and in Western countries. They let men of other races push them around belittling, emasculating, and condescending them.
Even those who were born in Australia, America and other Western countries, they are either so wimpy or arrogant little men. For example, Chinese and Korean men are passive, quiet and pushovers whereas some of the Vietnamese and Cambodians are arrogant and boorish. There is no middle ground.
Asian men are either in denial about Asian women chasing White men, or they complain about it without taking action on improving the situation. If Asian men were more masculine and assertive, more Asian women will be attracted to them, including women of other races.
Are the over-smothering, dictating Asian mothers got to do with all of this? Is it because Asian cultures tend to be more passive and feminine compared to non-Asian cultures?
The Chinese are naturally gentle, peaceful, hardworking people, that's impossible to change.

We're proud to be such and no need to change.
Jeff

El Cajon, CA

#5 Apr 15, 2012
mak from NYC wrote:
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Asians and White have very happy relationships.
There is no exploiting, only win win situation for both parties.
Ask the Asian men in Western countries if they like their women being systematically stolen from them and they'll all tell you, "they hate it".

Go to any Asian forums and they'll all tell you they hate seeing white men and Asian women relationships.
sam

Plano, TX

#6 Apr 15, 2012
Reality check: You don't live in the states

Chinese/koreans not arrogant? What about the wave? You can't get nobody to shut up about it. The show ABDC, asians dominate. Even Filipino's think their the sh#t.

Why do you care who these random asian women date?
You don't even like asian women. Oh I mean those who try to assimulate into western culture or try to hard to fit in. Funny, because isn't that what you're doing? Didn't you say you're a FOB, but now you've fully assimualted. Now you date white women, because you simply have more in common. Wow you never seem to suprise me. So it's okay, because it's not as common.
Okay I see how it is.

Oh I do have room to talk, because I haven't. What do you call it? A trader? Ah...who gives a sh#t. Date whoever you want. I'll be glady to say congrats to you when you find someone who likes how bitter you are.
Yeah, I know I sound like a jerk, but at least I don't complain about the same sh#t. If you're going to preach it at least live it.

P.S. AussiPino- So not kool.

Since: Jan 08

Jamaica, NY

#7 Apr 15, 2012
Jeff wrote:
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Ask the Asian men in Western countries if they like their women being systematically stolen from them and they'll all tell you, "they hate it".
Go to any Asian forums and they'll all tell you they hate seeing white men and Asian women relationships.
All the Chinese/White relationships either being friends or relatives
are really well conceived and approved by all.

Chinese are very happy to have Whites in our families and vice-versa.

Since: Nov 11

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#8 Apr 15, 2012
You're looking at it from a different angle. Actually, from my angle the one's born in Asia and the non-bananas don't give a rat's behind since Orientals have an innate quality where "actions speak louder than words".

How do I explain this, it's simple. Non-Orients pick on them, Orients as a stoic bunch, take revenge by thinking "long term", that is: they beat the Non-Orient through other things in life such as academia, sport, music, dance, and cash. In the end the sensible person will see that the Asian is much better off than the Non-Orient, since now the Asian is the Non-Orient's boss.

Now when you consider this, aren't Orients more "manly" since they built themselves up as opposed to the generations of convict descendents who think cricket is the best sport in the world?
You see, so called "white idiots" think they are "the balance". What that means is they think Asians are nerdy, Blacks are sporty and Whites are in between. It's because of this "averagism" that allows them to perpetuate negative stereotypes of other races due to the superficial, yet real "privilege" they think they have.

Once you look past this 'face' you can see the many layers of insecurity they have. Look at South Africa for instance, and this goes for all people not just whites. It's all mind over body. Why do you think black people have the world's highest rates in Premature Ejaculation and Performance Anxiety? Why do you think that there are more Yellows than Whites in the world?

And you have the audacity to have a winge about how unmanly Asian guys are...it's quite pathetic really. On one hand you've completely integrated though not physically into White society where whites are "no.1" so to say. And on the other hand since childhood you've been told that Asians are "no.1" by your parents because of the scientific fact that yellows are the most evolved out of all racial groups hence neotenized face, which is why we look so different to everyone else.

Perhaps this is the arrogance in which you talk about, but everyone is arrogant nonetheless.

Now, the myth about AFWM relationships. In the multiracial West where everything has become liberal, people are allowed to do w/e they want (provided, they don't break laws). Now, when you look at those laws, none of them indicate that IR is illegal. Hence your observation is stupid since people are individuals and have individual tastes.

Yes, there is a "middle ground"...and it's because you can't find the middle ground (psychological balance) which makes you sound like a deluded retard on a self fulfillment prophetic quest.

As for complaining: people complain all the time, so you can't say sh!t about people complaining about AFWM relationships. Since, they'll complain about other sh!t. There is no "systematic" stealing as indicated by the closeted Jeff dude, that observation is radically inane. You can't steal people since abductions and extortion are illegal.

Koreans are very very nationalistic with a severe inferiority complex about the Japanese and the West. That's a general fact. Koreans have a wave and that's going quite good for them since the wave is still going after 10 years. They also adopt Christianity and circumcise themselves to appear more white yet they have this thing about "pure blood". And don't get me started on "korea, number 1"...

On the femininity issue, that is all subjective. You don't necessarily need "other races" to like you. You only need to LOVE yourself, and you'll get girls. Girls are very easy to get, but very hard to understand. Obviously, it only makes it more hard to understand if they come from a different culture.

Dictating mothers? My mum wasn't around much so I can't say anything about this.

All in all, you need to see a counselor to get you balanced out before you go fulfilling any stupid prophecies.

“To be or not to be”

Since: Feb 12

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#9 Apr 15, 2012

“I'm an East Asian male.”

Since: Dec 10

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#10 Apr 15, 2012
AussiPino wrote:
If Asian men were more masculine and assertive, more Asian women will be attracted to them, including women of other races.
Attraction from "other races" does not matter.

AussiPino

Since: Jan 12

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#11 Apr 16, 2012
TheJazuma wrote:
All in all, you need to see a counselor to get you balanced out before you go fulfilling any stupid prophecies.
Right back at ya you stereotypical ch!ink.

Denial is your favorite past time. You are just a little b!tchboy who thinks that being in University will make things all rosey-dosey.

You are just an effeminate Asian boy who is used as a workhorse for the White men.

AussiPino

Since: Jan 12

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#12 Apr 16, 2012
sam wrote:
Reality check: You don't live in the states
Chinese/koreans not arrogant? What about the wave? You can't get nobody to shut up about it. The show ABDC, asians dominate. Even Filipino's think their the sh#t.
Why do you care who these random asian women date?
You don't even like asian women. Oh I mean those who try to assimulate into western culture or try to hard to fit in. Funny, because isn't that what you're doing? Didn't you say you're a FOB, but now you've fully assimualted. Now you date white women, because you simply have more in common. Wow you never seem to suprise me. So it's okay, because it's not as common.
Okay I see how it is.
Oh I do have room to talk, because I haven't. What do you call it? A trader? Ah...who gives a sh#t. Date whoever you want. I'll be glady to say congrats to you when you find someone who likes how bitter you are.
Yeah, I know I sound like a jerk, but at least I don't complain about the same sh#t. If you're going to preach it at least live it.
P.S. AussiPino- So not kool.
Boy oh boy. I am persecuted for speaking the truth.

So I am bitter because I speak the truth. I never said that I live in the United States but I do know that the situation is very similar between Australia and America. Asian-Australians and Asian-Americans do share similar experiences and challenges.

I practice what I preach. I have dated both Asian and White Women. The reason why I don't like many of the Asian-Australian women is because they think that their sh!t don't stink. Too good for a decent Asian guy to be with.

The fact is many Asian men are indeed quiet, wimpy guys who won't stand up for themselves. They get angry at this but they seem to not learn from it.

You are in denial here Mom Sir. Please don't be like this.

AussiPino

Since: Jan 12

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#13 Apr 16, 2012
Jeff wrote:
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Ask the Asian men in Western countries if they like their women being systematically stolen from them and they'll all tell you, "they hate it".
Go to any Asian forums and they'll all tell you they hate seeing white men and Asian women relationships.
Good luck convincing Jazuma, Sam and others here.

“phresh, bruh”

Since: Feb 12

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#14 Apr 17, 2012
AussiPino wrote:
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Boy oh boy. I am persecuted for speaking the truth.
So I am bitter because I speak the truth. I never said that I live in the United States but I do know that the situation is very similar between Australia and America. Asian-Australians and Asian-Americans do share similar experiences and challenges.
I practice what I preach. I have dated both Asian and White Women. The reason why I don't like many of the Asian-Australian women is because they think that their sh!t don't stink. Too good for a decent Asian guy to be with.
The fact is many Asian men are indeed quiet, wimpy guys who won't stand up for themselves. They get angry at this but they seem to not learn from it.
You are in denial here Mom Sir. Please don't be like this.
No, not for the truth. I only say this now because of your past commets. You sound very bitter.

Please explain your "dating" scene because I remember you saying it's harder to get a date with a white-australian women. Asian-australian women think their too good. So it must be hard to date an asian or white aussies. Funny, because you prefer white women.
..........
There's nothing wrong with being an asian male. Most quiet people are the most dangerous, I say. Just because you think that asian men aren't seen as "manly" doesn't mean others think that.

Sterotypes started off as rumors. You should know that. IR dating has always been he said she said game. Actually just dating in general.

I'm not in denial. I see myself as an individual. You can't put me into a box or try to group me. Sorry I don't fit into your sterotypical world.

-If I were you I'd see it as a challenge. Easy it just too boring.
ski-skert

San Francisco, CA

#15 Apr 17, 2012
theres 2 ways to go about this, option A, you destroy the competition, or option B, you beat them at their own game. you would probably have exclude option A because that'll consequently lead you to prison. be proud my fellow asian brothers.

AussiPino

Since: Jan 12

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#16 Apr 17, 2012
-sam- wrote:
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No, not for the truth. I only say this now because of your past commets. You sound very bitter.
Please explain your "dating" scene because I remember you saying it's harder to get a date with a white-australian women. Asian-australian women think their too good. So it must be hard to date an asian or white aussies. Funny, because you prefer white women.
..........
There's nothing wrong with being an asian male. Most quiet people are the most dangerous, I say. Just because you think that asian men aren't seen as "manly" doesn't mean others think that.
Sterotypes started off as rumors. You should know that. IR dating has always been he said she said game. Actually just dating in general.
I'm not in denial. I see myself as an individual. You can't put me into a box or try to group me. Sorry I don't fit into your sterotypical world.
-If I were you I'd see it as a challenge. Easy it just too boring.
Regardless about you or I, the fact is that there are a large number of Asian men who need to man-up. I don't mean just in relationships, but also in terms of being more assertive towards people in general.

Asian men have the image of being mama's boys and this only teaches them to be subservient to their parents instead of thinking for themselves. I know that collectivism is obviously a trait in Asian cultures but that doesn't mean that Asian men can't stand on their own two feet.

Let's focus on this point for now. Put aside things about women.

“To be or not to be”

Since: Feb 12

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#17 Apr 17, 2012
Asians in general are not as assertive in life as their Western counterparts because they consider themselves as just an element of their family and not as an individual. So whenever they open their mouths to speak they have to look around to see who they are talking to so as to adapt their speech to suit the earholes of their audience. While this may seem like a democratic process, it is not. At the top of each family there is a head of the family who usually is the big daddy, some kind of dictator. He will decide for you what is to say and what is not to say, who will marry who in his family. You may say that "Oh, at least the big daddy is assertive as an individual. No, not really. He will have to answer to his ancestors too, even though his ancestors are not alive. They are ghosts but still those ghosts are always around to keep the big daddy in check. The second most powerful guy in a family is the eldest son. Then come the other sons. The mother and the daughters are the least powerful and discardable elements. In a society, it is the same thing. People who are in the same age group as their parents are considered their uncles and aunts and excercise the same power as their parents eg. one level up.

Asian men don't raise their voice and speak loudly because they are afraid of displeasing the elderly and ghosts. In fact, they speak in a small voice like sheep and in the house they just tiptoe so as not to make sound.

AussiPino

Since: Jan 12

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#18 Apr 18, 2012
-TheExam- wrote:
Asians in general are not as assertive in life as their Western counterparts because they consider themselves as just an element of their family and not as an individual. So whenever they open their mouths to speak they have to look around to see who they are talking to so as to adapt their speech to suit the earholes of their audience. While this may seem like a democratic process, it is not. At the top of each family there is a head of the family who usually is the big daddy, some kind of dictator. He will decide for you what is to say and what is not to say, who will marry who in his family. You may say that "Oh, at least the big daddy is assertive as an individual. No, not really. He will have to answer to his ancestors too, even though his ancestors are not alive. They are ghosts but still those ghosts are always around to keep the big daddy in check. The second most powerful guy in a family is the eldest son. Then come the other sons. The mother and the daughters are the least powerful and discardable elements. In a society, it is the same thing. People who are in the same age group as their parents are considered their uncles and aunts and excercise the same power as their parents eg. one level up.
Asian men don't raise their voice and speak loudly because they are afraid of displeasing the elderly and ghosts. In fact, they speak in a small voice like sheep and in the house they just tiptoe so as not to make sound.
What you have said here makes sense. But in order to get ahead in this modern world, people in general have to be more than just being a collective group. Even in Asia, things are changing and with the secularization of the Asian cultures are showing that the younger generations are moving away from the traditional family hierarchy set-up. Sure, things like respecting elders and taking care of family members will continue to persist but individualism is starting to make a mark. Asian men have to realize that their parents and grandparents time is different to today's.

I hope this sounds good for TheJazuma since he thinks he knows everything around here. He and others can't handle the truth.

Since: Mar 12

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#19 Apr 18, 2012
AussiPino wrote:
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What you have said here makes sense. But in order to get ahead in this modern world, people in general have to be more than just being a collective group. Even in Asia, things are changing and with the secularization of the Asian cultures are showing that the younger generations are moving away from the traditional family hierarchy set-up. Sure, things like respecting elders and taking care of family members will continue to persist but individualism is starting to make a mark. Asian men have to realize that their parents and grandparents time is different to today's.
I hope this sounds good for TheJazuma since he thinks he knows everything around here. He and others can't handle the truth.
And the truth is?
I haven't yet met one Asian Canadian guy that would fit the stereotype you are talking about.

Since: Jan 08

Brooklyn, NY

#20 Apr 18, 2012
NaviTheAwesome wrote:
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And the truth is?
I haven't yet met one Asian Canadian guy that would fit the stereotype you are talking about.
In NYC, Asian guys are doing really good.

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