Poll: Americans changing on gun control

Poll: Americans changing on gun control

There are 111 comments on the KOCO-TV Oklahoma City story from Dec 17, 2012, titled Poll: Americans changing on gun control. In it, KOCO-TV Oklahoma City reports that:

As the horrific shootings in Newtown, Connecticut remain fresh in the minds of Americans, a big question is whether the deaths of 20 young children at Sandy Hook Elementary School will impact public opinion on gun control.

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downhill246

Delray Beach, FL

#118 Dec 20, 2012
Spocko wrote:
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To be taken with a grain of salt, these numbers are for the gun loving crowd, there are no records or stats anywhere to verify these claims they are strictly based on projections, extrapolations and fantasy! Besides, there are a number of other studies that claim the exact opposite ...
Yet you never post links to support your claims. Why is that?
downhill246

Delray Beach, FL

#119 Dec 20, 2012
Typo -Do these signers
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#120 Dec 20, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Sounds like a criminal's wet dream.
Not if he finds himself on the wrong end of my shotgun
downhill246

Delray Beach, FL

#121 Dec 20, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Sounds like a criminal's wet dream.
How does that work outside the home? Is it disguised as a golf club?
downhill246

Delray Beach, FL

#122 Dec 20, 2012
Spocko wrote:
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Not if he finds himself on the wrong end of my shotgun
How does that work outside the home? Is it disguised as a golf club?

That's better.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#125 Dec 21, 2012
Spocko wrote:
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Not if he finds himself on the wrong end of my shotgun
Found someone worth a drive-by....Today show did a segment about a woman in NY, soliciting donations on Facebook, for the funeral of Noah Posner, one of the Sandy Hook murdered children...she claims to be his aunt....incredible scumbag scammer, eh?...
El Cid

Austin, TX

#126 Dec 21, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>If, as you suggest, it is people who kill people, then may I assume you favor background checks, to screen out some of the more violent crazies?
Background checks and waiting periods are fine but do little to screen out the crazies and so on.
Anybody can get a gun if they want one, pretty much any sort of gun. If you have the cash and are in the know it is easy to get even a fully automatic rifle, heavy machine gun, grenades, whatever you want from the black market so getting an over the counter weapon is also a snap. Guns are prime targets for theft from gangs in this country, private homes and businesses are robbed of them all the time. The gangs use them as well as sell them.
Cpt America

Connersville, IN

#127 Dec 22, 2012
You see, we have a Constitution and a Bill of Rights. These two together basically say that whenever a government becomes corrupted by... oh... let's see, corporate influence, religious dogma, a minority with all the money, or foreign or domestic threats to our individual rights,(such as drug laws which serve only to criminalize those who are not really criminals, militarizing local police powers etc.)it is not only permissible to bring down said government and replace it with one that protects those rights... it is ones solemn duty to do so... by the pen or by the sword.
Some idiot said that the Founding Fathers where just talking about muskets and not assault rifles. Duh. Well that's what the Government had as well as the local populace.
Being they could not foresee FA 18's and battle tanks did not mean they believed that any citizenry should be outrageously outgunned by its government . Of course few of us can afford one Hellfire missile much less the plane to deliver it. But that's not the point. Are they going to use that superior weaponry on their own people, thereby showing their true evil intent when they know that that same populace has weapons and guerrilla tactics that can slow their plans and possibly create insurrection among their military conscripts.
Of course it's just so much easier if you can use some incident, or number of incidents, to get rid of those pesky little gun tottin' "rednecks" before a shot is fired.
There is a lot of speaking out of both sides of some folks mouths these days.
So many are cheering on the Syrian opposition, even though there's no guarantee as to who will follow as the new leaders. But that opposition wouldn't have a chance in hell without AK's and grenade launchers."Oh but we who are Westernized are too civilized to need such weapons and we have the vote to change things"
And more worthless bullshit like that.
Like I said, pure, unadulterated bullshit from the "enlightened and educated sheep". You know... those intellectual sheep who are the first to either be eaten by the Oligarchy or even better... further propagandized to be helpful to the reigning powers.
And they work slowly and methodically over long periods of time to gain influence and power for themselves while stripping those things from the masses. This is often accomplished under the guise of "This is better for you and you'll be safer and not have to worry about your own safety or security... or especially you CHILDREN S' because we will stop the bad guys" (while you can ignore the thousands of children killed or permanently brain damaged in backyard swimming pools each year).
http://www.edgarsnyder.com/swimming-pool/swim...
They also encourage fringe groups like PETA to emotionalize the masses into becoming haters of those who would be the most dangerous foes to their ultimate victory. You know the types. Them Goddammed stupid, ignorant, superstitious, insensitive, animal murderin', redneck hillbilly types who don't know nothin' any way.
Them idiots that weren't properly educated out of their common sense like the rest of us.
So after a few generations of all this "enlightenment", eventually most of the people who knew just how quickly good men can become scoundrels are long forgotten.
Cpt America

Connersville, IN

#128 Dec 22, 2012
You know, like... Synthvet up there.
And before you know it we have a perfect society of wimps and sensitives and helpless sheep screaming for more and more security with more cameras and more laws to "protect the children",(by which, at this point and time includes the adults as well). And the powers that be? Well... they are all too happy to shove a camera right up yer arse to pacify your paranoid delusions about "all the madmen running amok throughout the entire country".
And That's how you become a "Subject of The State" rather than the citizen of a country.
And the real gut wrentchingly funny thing about it all is that those idiots who are running the country, who went to LAW school and claim they know one bean about the rights of the individual are either too dumb to comprehend it... or they are in on it in the first place. There is really no discernible difference between a scoundralous Democrat or Republican. And none of them really represent YOU.
The moral of the the story is this...
During the American Revolution The Subjects of The King were fairly equal when it came to military firepower. I mean technology wise. The only difference was... that while the "Enlightened" and oh so orderly Englishmen dressed in hunters orange and stood like targets at a shooting range while enjoying their tea and crumpets... the Americans adopted a more guerrilla fighting style and blasted their asses back to sea while drinkin' whisky and eatin' squirrel meat.
And that's why some things, like liberty and freedom, are far more important... yes... than even the life of a child.
That doesn't mean we have to like it. It just IS.
JPB

Franklinville, NC

#130 Dec 26, 2012
downhill246 wrote:
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Always an individual right but I understand the word individual has been known to frighten some liberals.
SCOTUS has never denied a plaintiff the right to challenge gun laws via the 2nd Amendment on the grounds he wasn't a member of a well-regulated militia. If the court believed it was a basic requirement to belong to a militia and the plaintiff did not belong to one, they would have declared that the plaintiff had "no standing" to sue. Yet in 2nd Amendment cases non militia plaintiffs have always had standing.
The reason for this is because The well organized Militia requires the individual citizen to bring his own weapon, as was the case in the Revoloutionary War, and will be the case if there is another. This is also the reason that we as individual's have the right to any type of weapon, to protect ourselves from whomever the enemy is, no matter how well armed they are.
Spocko

Oakland, CA

#131 Dec 26, 2012
JPB wrote:
<quoted text> The reason for this is because The well organized Militia requires the individual citizen to bring his own weapon, as was the case in the Revoloutionary War, and will be the case if there is another. This is also the reason that we as individual's have the right to any type of weapon, to protect ourselves from whomever the enemy is, no matter how well armed they are.
You're not suggesting that a bunch of civilian lunatics are going take on the US Military? If so send us a postcard from the front - moron!!!

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