Did Sikh guru promote group sex?

Did Sikh guru promote group sex?

There are 70 comments on the The Toronto Star story from Apr 11, 2010, titled Did Sikh guru promote group sex?. In it, The Toronto Star reports that:

The Dasam Granth is all rhymed poetry but in the controversy about it there is growing vitriolic diatribe.

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Asif Khan

Swadlincote, UK

#1 Apr 12, 2010
Did Guru Gobind Singh promote group sex?
Just like the bible, a storm of debate swirls around interpretations of the Sikh scripture

Raveena Aulakh Staff Reporter

The Dasam Granth is all rhymed poetry but in the controversy about it there is growing vitriolic diatribe.

"The debate was dormant – people quietly believed one way or the other," said Harbans Lal, president of Academy of Guru Granth Studies at Arlington, Texas. "This open fighting is relatively recent ... it started about 15 years ago. Now it's blowing up in everyone's face."

Last week, a man was stabbed when violence broke out at a Sikh temple in Brampton where Darshan Singh, a former, now-excommunicated head priest of Sikhs, was invited to speak. Singh, who lives in Brampton, is one of the most vocal critics of the Dasam Granth.

A scripture of Sikhism, it contains texts attributed to the tenth and the last Sikh guru, Gobind Singh, who lived in central India. They were compiled after the guru's death in 1708 by Mani Singh, one of his disciples. Singh took nine years to gather the guru's writings from various followers.

But there were different versions. From 1892 to 1897, Sikh scholars studied as many as 32 adaptations and prepared the Dasam Granth now under fire among some Sikhs. They believe it promotes sexual promiscuity, degrades women and also encourages use of intoxicants.

It contains multiple references to group sex that have riled some Sikhs. A part of the scripture talks about consuming intoxicants before sex to make it better, said Singh. He maintains some verses encourage people to have multiple sexual partners – including with immediate family members.
Jija of Asif Khan

Lucknow, India

#2 Apr 12, 2010
Abe SALE Asif Khan u still roaming here !Why you do not say with pride that you r true son of muslim Lund !That your sisters r married to true Lunds if muslim Lunds !That your daughters r married to Muslim Lund !
So come on and say with pride that your daughters r married to true Lund of Muslim Lunds !
Jija of Asif Khan

Lucknow, India

#3 Apr 12, 2010
Abe SALE Asif Khan u still roaming here !Why you do not say with pride that you r true son of muslim Lund !That your sisters r married to true Lunds if muslim Lunds !That your daughters r married to Muslim Lund !
So come on and say with pride that your daughters r married to true Lund of Muslim Lunds !
And since when you became so perfect master of Dasam Granth !
Abe SALE Asif Khan u still roaming here !Why you do not say with pride that you r true son of muslim Lund !That your sisters r married to true Lunds if muslim Lunds !That your daughters r married to Muslim Lund !
So come on and say with pride that your daughters r married to true Lund of Muslim Lunds !
Asif Khan

Swadlincote, UK

#4 Apr 12, 2010
Errr ok???

Dude what do you think about the news? Its jolly interesting don't you think? Obviously with your fixation on 'Muslim Lunds' its apparent that the Dasam Grunt by Gandu Gobind Singh, got his young Khalsa fascinated with our Lunds, anway give my regards to the Panj Gay Pride Pyare.....

Yay
Asif Khan

Swadlincote, UK

#5 Apr 12, 2010
This is a wicked scoop...

YOU COULDN'T MAKE IT UP

YAY
Muhammed loves kids

North Vancouver, Canada

#7 Apr 13, 2010
Muhammed had many wives but the pervert married a 6 YEAR OLD when he was 54.

Islam is a joke

Pakis marry their cousins lol

INBREDS
Mohammad_Michael _Jackson

San Leandro, CA

#8 Apr 13, 2010
Mohammad and Michael Jackson bothe loved kids
IRAN

North Vancouver, Canada

#9 Apr 13, 2010
The Sikh holy book has none of the above poems that were written by the British
Asif Khan

Gillingham, UK

#10 Apr 13, 2010
IRAN wrote:
The Sikh holy book has none of the above poems that were written by the British
Haha look its IRAN, the same Sikh guy who used to call himself 'Persian' on this forum. LOL LOL

Looks like this dikh is too ashamed of being a dikh, but can you blame him
sdakvo

Highland Park, NJ

#11 Apr 13, 2010
Asif I see u are high on ur grandads afghan opium again.
Iam telling u man- its no good for u.
The last time u had it- u left lahore being a loyal pakistani and joined the taliban.
Instead of fighting americans u started bombing girls schools in swat valley.

U should do civilization a far- a really big favor-
Do something uself like blowing up ur own mosque- make sure u get the mullah too while ur at it- like a good muslim should.
IRAN

North Vancouver, Canada

#12 Apr 13, 2010
Islamic leader of IRAN

Ayatollah Khomeini who wrote in his 1990 book:

"A man can quench his sexual thirst by use of a baby. The only condition is that he does not penetrate the vagina, but anal sex is okay."

"It is better if a girl marries so early that she gets her first period in the home of her husband rather than in the home of the father. Every father who gives his daughter away in marriage at such an early age will have obtained a place in heaven"

"A man can have anal sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels, etc. However, he should kill the animal after ejaculating."

"If a man has anal sex with his son, brother or father after he is married, the marriage is to continue."

Islam lol
Wayne Rooney

Gillingham, UK

#13 Apr 16, 2010
Inderjeet aka Persian must make other dikhs ashamed of being dikh
Jija of Asif Khan

Lucknow, India

#15 Apr 19, 2010
Abe SALE Asif Khan u still roaming here !Why you do not say with pride that you r true son of muslim Lund !That your sisters r married to true Lunds if muslim Lunds !That your daughters r married to Muslim Lund !
So come on and say with pride that your daughters r married to true Lund of Muslim Lunds !
And since when you became so perfect master of Dasam Granth !
Abe SALE Asif Khan u still roaming here !Why you do not say with pride that you r true son of muslim Lund !That your sisters r married to true Lunds if muslim Lunds !That your daughters r married to Muslim Lund !
So come on and say with pride that your daughters r married to true Lund of Muslim Lunds !
So now taken new ID of Wayne Rooney !What u r trying to hide Asif Khan !Still you r not declaring that u r true son of Muslim Lund or your daughters r married to Mulsim Lunds and ur sisters r married to muslim Lunds !Or r u harami sale Hindu ke lund kim padaish!
Now this is litmus test for you Asif Khan alias Wayne Rooney !
Kuljeet Kaur Sidhu

UK

#16 Apr 19, 2010
Asif Khan wrote:
Did Guru Gobind Singh promote group sex?
Just like the bible, a storm of debate swirls around interpretations of the Sikh scripture
Raveena Aulakh Staff Reporter
The Dasam Granth is all rhymed poetry but in the controversy about it there is growing vitriolic diatribe.
"The debate was dormant – people quietly believed one way or the other," said Harbans Lal, president of Academy of Guru Granth Studies at Arlington, Texas. "This open fighting is relatively recent ... it started about 15 years ago. Now it's blowing up in everyone's face."
Last week, a man was stabbed when violence broke out at a Sikh temple in Brampton where Darshan Singh, a former, now-excommunicated head priest of Sikhs, was invited to speak. Singh, who lives in Brampton, is one of the most vocal critics of the Dasam Granth.
A scripture of Sikhism, it contains texts attributed to the tenth and the last Sikh guru, Gobind Singh, who lived in central India. They were compiled after the guru's death in 1708 by Mani Singh, one of his disciples. Singh took nine years to gather the guru's writings from various followers.
But there were different versions. From 1892 to 1897, Sikh scholars studied as many as 32 adaptations and prepared the Dasam Granth now under fire among some Sikhs. They believe it promotes sexual promiscuity, degrades women and also encourages use of intoxicants.
It contains multiple references to group sex that have riled some Sikhs. A part of the scripture talks about consuming intoxicants before sex to make it better, said Singh. He maintains some verses encourage people to have multiple sexual partners – including with immediate family members.
Asif Khan, Guru Gobind Singh was not the founder of Sikhism, Guru Nanak was the founding Guru, so over time there would be distortions as there may well be with your Hadiths.
Jija of Asif Khan

Lucknow, India

#17 Apr 19, 2010
Oh Dear KKsidhu Glad that you have started reading Hadits !Better start reading QURAN the ultimate divine book revealed by Allah !
So forget about sikhs and Hindus they r pagans and ignorant fools !As u rightly said they indulge in Hypcrite ways and drink (In Islam Wine is banned )!
Learn QURAN so that when you amrry your Muslim boyfriend his parents wil be delighted to have you as their Daughter inlaw !Learn HIJAB too !
so why waste your time in this sikh forum go and marry your Muslim boyfriend as sex before marriage is HARAM !Marry sooner as Sania married Shaob when Mullas started giving Fatwas as to "Why Shoanb was living in the same house with Sania " before marriage !So good girl that Sania is married early and Preponed her marriage to Shaib accordance with the elder Maulvis and wisemen of Islam !
So leave this Forum for a while learn QURAN and marry ur MUSLIM Boyfriend righjt now !
Allah Hafiz!
KAUR

London, UK

#18 Apr 28, 2010
Speaking on behalf of all Sikh sisters, death is far more preferable than being Muslim, Anyday.
Aurangzeb

Swadlincote, UK

#19 Apr 28, 2010
KAUR wrote:
Speaking on behalf of all Sikh sisters, death is far more preferable than being Muslim, Anyday.
Then why do Sikhs pretend to be Muslim ?

You have people on here who call themselves 'IRAN' or 'Persian' either these Sikhs are too ashamed of being Indian or Sikh so they describe themselves as Iran etc ROFL. Its funny especially as those who call themselves Canadian, since Canadians hate Sikhs big time these days
sdakvo

Highland Park, NJ

#20 Apr 28, 2010
Asif- u opium addict at it again.
Hows ur grandad in peshwar- all doped out on afghan opium no doubt- curing his asthma right?
Asif Khan

Rochester, UK

#21 May 26, 2010
I wandered what happened to the poor donkey, 6 guys blowin off a poor gadha in a private tent sheesh!
Mike Good

Dallas, TX

#22 May 27, 2010
Westly Shaw likes group sex with boys

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