Justices may decide if vendors can sn...

Justices may decide if vendors can snub gay weddings

There are 2814 comments on the Daily Press & Argus story from Mar 20, 2014, titled Justices may decide if vendors can snub gay weddings. In it, Daily Press & Argus reports that:

When Vanessa Willock wanted an Albuquerque photographer to shoot her same-sex commitment ceremony in 2006, she contacted Elane Photography.

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lides

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#1014 Mar 31, 2014
BS Detector wrote:
I'm not in competition with either of you. What challenge would that be? Totally unfair.
I quite agree. You wouldn't stand a chance.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1015 Mar 31, 2014
nhjeff wrote:
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Reverend Al, like all anarchists and big L libertarians, is whackadoodle NOT because of his ideals. He is whacked because he does not no how to inject the reality of the world into his utopia.
His posts are replete with protests that people will behave themselves, if only given a chance. His vision of the world does not allow for those who would dump garbage into rivers, dupe savers into sham investments, abuse political office for personal benefit, manipulate others by use of force, nor outright steal.
We have laws not-so-much because people want to oppress one another: We have laws because too many people have abused their liberties and the trust of others.
Reverend Al is correct that people don't need laws in order to demonstrate moral behavior. He is also correct that laws don't substitute for a personal moral code. The do, however, sometimes convince people who would break the laws that it is not worth the cost. And sometimes we eliminate people who have done wrong from society-at-large.
And that is the context in which we need to see the baker. He may not be convinced that same-sex marriages are just as good as other marriages. But with a law proscribing discrimination, he just may decide his moral indignation is not worth the legal consequences.
In the particular cases referenced here, it did not deter the behavior that society has deemed undesirable. But the publicity may convince others not to follow suit. More importantly, non-discrimination laws are mostly strong suggestions on how to conduct business. I have no doubt that businesses quietly violate non-discrimination laws regularly. But the law must have an enforcement mechanism in order to have any effect.
Very well said, as usual.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#1016 Mar 31, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Anti-discrimination laws apply to everyone business equally.
So do state marriage requirements.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#1017 Mar 31, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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1. Nope, it's just a wedding cake with 2 men on top of it.
2.I doubt the cake is having sex with the other "gay" wedding cakes in the freezer...
1. That's what makes it gay.
2. You're gay, do you have sex with other gay men in the freezer?

lides

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#1018 Mar 31, 2014
Wondering wrote:
So do state marriage requirements.
Wondering, can you indicate a compelling governmental interest served by limiting marriage to being between a man and a woman, or are you still a moron?
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#1019 Mar 31, 2014
lides wrote:
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Wondering, can you indicate a compelling governmental interest served by limiting marriage to being between a man and a woman, or are you still a moron?
Go play with your blocks and stop bothering the grown-ups.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1020 Mar 31, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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So do state marriage requirements.
The obvious difference being some state marriage requirements violate the US Constitution, but anti-discrimination laws have been consistently upheld as constitutional.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1021 Mar 31, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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1. That's what makes it gay.
2. You're gay, do you have sex with other gay men in the freezer?
Nope, a cake doesn't have a sexual orientation.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#1022 Mar 31, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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The obvious difference being some state marriage requirements violate the US Constitution,
I disagree.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#1023 Mar 31, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Nope, a cake doesn't have a sexual orientation.
Well, not until you put the topper on it.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KGeEhawn9_A/UIpxOGk...

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#1024 Mar 31, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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I disagree.
When you put on your robe and sit on SCOTUS, then we'll care.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#1025 Mar 31, 2014
nhjeff wrote:
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When you put on your robe and sit on SCOTUS, then we'll care.
It doesn't matter to me if you ever care.

TomInElPaso

“Impeach the reality show actor”

Since: Dec 08

El Paso, TX

#1026 Mar 31, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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Go play with your blocks and stop bothering the grown-ups.
Yep, still a moron. Thanks for the confirmation.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1027 Mar 31, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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I disagree.
Whether you agree is irrelevant. The judges agree.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1028 Mar 31, 2014
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, not until you put the topper on it.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KGeEhawn9_A/UIpxOGk...
Nope, a cake still doesn't have a sexual orientation.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1029 Mar 31, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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It doesn't matter to me if you ever care.
Again, the point being that your opinion is irrelevant unless you happen to be sitting on the SCOTUS.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#1030 Mar 31, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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Go play with your blocks and stop bothering the grown-ups.
Honey, you're the one playing with dolls on top of cakes..... perhaps you should re-think what "grown-ups" do.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#1031 Mar 31, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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It doesn't matter to me if you ever care.
Oh, I think that is EXACTLY your problem. You find yourself in the minority and it confuses and scares you. The world is changing and you can't handle it.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#1032 Mar 31, 2014
TomInElPaso wrote:
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Yep, still a moron. Thanks for the confirmation.
I don't have to confirm it, anyone that reads lides post knows it.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#1033 Mar 31, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Oh, I think that is EXACTLY your problem. You find yourself in the minority and it confuses and scares you. The world is changing and you can't handle it.
Maybe I'd be in the minority if I were in your favorite bar, nowhere else. The world is changing and it isn't for the better.

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