Same-Sex Marriage Trumps Religious Li...

Same-Sex Marriage Trumps Religious Liberty in New Mexico

There are 1050 comments on the The Heritage Foundation story from Aug 22, 2013, titled Same-Sex Marriage Trumps Religious Liberty in New Mexico. In it, The Heritage Foundation reports that:

Earlier today, the Supreme Court of New Mexico ruled that the First Amendment does not protect a Christian photographer's ability to decline to take pictures of a same-sex commitment ceremony-even when doing so would violate the photographer's deeply held religious beliefs.

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Neil An Blowme

Hoboken, NJ

#611 Sep 22, 2013
LuzAranda wrote:
homosexuality is not allowed in the Christian Bible and any other depraved sexual act is strictly reserved for a man and a woman, male/female.. Different thinking of the marital act doesn't have a leg to stand on. LOVE between husband and wife includes utter respect for one another, no lust, no bestiality, only looking for a united future.
News flash!

Your 'Christian Buybull" doesn't run this country. Too bad, so sad. NO ONE is required to follow the rules of your religion. And I'd be willing to bet that YOU don't follow all of them anyway.

“Not everything that shines...”

Since: Aug 13

Hatch, NM

#612 Sep 22, 2013
LOVE is the answer. The Bible makes it so clear you have to admit male/female relationship IS IT. As for my personal life, just let it go. WHY make a book out of it, when the word is 'hypocrisy'. Give me a break, I do my best.

“Each Thought Creates A Reality”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#613 Sep 22, 2013
LuzAranda wrote:
LOVE is the answer. The Bible makes it so clear you have to admit male/female relationship IS IT. As for my personal life, just let it go. WHY make a book out of it, when the word is 'hypocrisy'. Give me a break, I do my best.
Give me a break. Christ did his entry through immaculate conception. Was the Holy Spirit male or female. Bi? Transgender? Female? Androgynous? If Male Female relationship was not good enough for Christ, then it is not good enough for you.
Neil An Blowme

Hoboken, NJ

#614 Sep 22, 2013
LuzAranda wrote:
LOVE is the answer. The Bible makes it so clear you have to admit male/female relationship IS IT. As for my personal life, just let it go. WHY make a book out of it, when the word is 'hypocrisy'. Give me a break, I do my best.
Once again, what your Buybull says is IRRELEVANT in matters of civil law. That's the way our country was set up and that's the way it works today.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#615 Sep 22, 2013
LuzAranda wrote:
LOVE is the answer. The Bible makes it so clear you have to admit male/female relationship IS IT. As for my personal life, just let it go. WHY make a book out of it, when the word is 'hypocrisy'. Give me a break, I do my best.
While I have to agree with those who observe neither yours nor any other translation of the bible has any place in the law, your interpretation of your bible is lacking, and leads you to harm others rather than treating them as Jesus would. Have you read the stories of Naomi and Ruth, Jonathan and David, Daniel and Ashpenaz among others? The last half of Matthew 19?

Matthew 19:10 His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.
19:11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

"According to Jesus, born eunuchs are exempt from the Adam and Eve style heterosexual marriage paradigm.

Eunuchs so born from their mother’s womb. These eunuchs, according to Jesus, were born that way. They did not make a personal choice to be eunuchs and they were not physically castrated by men. Some Christians believe these men were homosexual eunuchs." http://www.gaychristian101.com/Homosexual-Eun...

Before you use your interpretations of the bible to justify harming others by contradicting the Golden Rule, it might help to know what it really said before it was misinterpreted and mistranslated into English.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#616 Sep 22, 2013
"Jesus says nothing about same-sex behavior.
The Jewish prophets are silent about homosexuality.

Only six or seven of the Bible's thousands of verses refer to same-sex behavior in any way -- and none of these verses refer to homosexual orientation as it's understood today.

The Bible says clearly that sex with a prostitute is acceptable for the husband but not for the wife. Polygamy (more than one wife) is acceptable, as is a king's having many concubines.(Solomon, the wisest king of all, had 1,000 concubines.) Slavery and sex with slaves, marriage of girls aged 11-13, and treatment of women as property are all accepted practices in the Scriptures. On the other hand, there are strict prohibitions against interracial marriage, birth control, discussing or even naming a sexual organ, and seeing one's parents nude." (What the Bible Says-and Doesn't Say- About Homosexuality)

Yet while other verses are ignored, those few highly questionable verses are used to justify causing suffering and death for those who seek same gender adult loving relationships. Acts of lust, rape, idolatry, violation of religious purity obligations, or pederasty, are not the same as modern loving, committed same sex relationships.

While you are free to use your beliefs to determine your own actions, when you use your beliefs to justify laws that deny legal equality, you harm us in a wide variety of ways, including the stigmatization that is used to justify their behavior by those who beat, torture and kill us, here and throughout the world. No matter how much you might wish to deny it, your judgement that we should be punished results in suffering and death.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#617 Sep 22, 2013
Rev. William Sinkford, former President, Unitarian Universalist Church:

"The Unitarian Universalist Association has a long-standing and deeply held religious commitment to support full equality for gay people. We dedicate ourselves to work for justice, grounded in faith, which calls us to support everyone's full humanity, everyone's ability to love, and everyone's value in the world."
Neil An Blowme

Hoboken, NJ

#618 Sep 22, 2013
Not Yet Equal wrote:
Rev. William Sinkford, former President, Unitarian Universalist Church:
"The Unitarian Universalist Association has a long-standing and deeply held religious commitment to support full equality for gay people. We dedicate ourselves to work for justice, grounded in faith, which calls us to support everyone's full humanity, everyone's ability to love, and everyone's value in the world."
Amen.

The very first gay support group meeting I attended was held at a local Unitarian Church building in my hometown. I was/am so grateful for their support.

Since: Apr 11

Los Angeles, CA

#619 Sep 22, 2013
Willothewisp wrote:
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Give me a break. Christ did his entry through immaculate conception. Was the Holy Spirit male or female. Bi? Transgender? Female? Androgynous? If Male Female relationship was not good enough for Christ, then it is not good enough for you.
Jesus had two dads.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#620 Sep 22, 2013
LuzAranda wrote:
homosexuality is not allowed in the Christian Bible and any other depraved sexual act is strictly reserved for a man and a woman, male/female.. Different thinking of the marital act doesn't have a leg to stand on. LOVE between husband and wife includes utter respect for one another, no lust, no bestiality, only looking for a united future.
Oh PUHLEEEZ!

You're actually a nun who has never even been close to real married life, right?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#621 Sep 22, 2013
LuzAranda wrote:
LOVE is the answer. The Bible makes it so clear you have to admit male/female relationship IS IT. As for my personal life, just let it go. WHY make a book out of it, when the word is 'hypocrisy'. Give me a break, I do my best.
Law exists at the juncture of the ideal and the real.

You can have all the fantasy ideals you want. Nobody has to share them.

It's called FREEDOM.

Freedom of Religion also means Freedom from the unwanted religion of others.

“Not everything that shines...”

Since: Aug 13

Hatch, NM

#622 Sep 23, 2013
'unwanted religion'? maybe Neil N. Bloami could use it. Freedom is what we live in these USA and I love it. Take care, adopt black children and wish you LOVE.

“Not everything that shines...”

Since: Aug 13

Hatch, NM

#623 Sep 23, 2013
I would go for foster kids but my extended large family has first priority. Full house almost all the time.
Neil An Blowme

Hoboken, NJ

#624 Sep 23, 2013
LuzAranda wrote:
'unwanted religion'? maybe Neil N. Bloami could use it. Freedom is what we live in these USA and I love it. Take care, adopt black children and wish you LOVE.
No thank you. I rejected Christianity YEARS ago.

“Not everything that shines...”

Since: Aug 13

Hatch, NM

#625 Sep 23, 2013
Neil N. Bloami was French. He was a friend of mine. He was a foreign exchange student, graduated, joined the Foreign Legion and never heard from him until now. Did you ever remember our graduation night? never forgot it myself.

“26.2”

Since: Feb 08

Santa Fe, NM

#626 Sep 23, 2013
LuzAranda wrote:
Neil N. Bloami was French. He was a friend of mine. He was a foreign exchange student, graduated, joined the Foreign Legion and never heard from him until now. Did you ever remember our graduation night? never forgot it myself.
If Neil was a friend of yours then why do you seek to deny him the opportunity for marital bliss that everyone else in the USA enjoys? Last I heard, Neil N. Bloami and Ben Dover were engaged. Let them get married and live in peace.
Neil An Blowme

Hoboken, NJ

#627 Sep 23, 2013
LuzAranda wrote:
Neil N. Bloami was French. He was a friend of mine. He was a foreign exchange student, graduated, joined the Foreign Legion and never heard from him until now. Did you ever remember our graduation night? never forgot it myself.
As if..........

“Not everything that shines...”

Since: Aug 13

Hatch, NM

#628 Sep 24, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>
where did Jesus say that? If it was important, he must have said something.
Leviticus 20:22
That

Huntsville, AL

#629 Sep 24, 2013
LuzAranda wrote:
<quoted text>Leviticus 20:22
wasn't Jesus.

“Each Thought Creates A Reality”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#630 Sep 24, 2013
LuzAranda wrote:
<quoted text>Leviticus 20:22
Why don't you try Leviticus 20:21, 20:20, 20:19. Seems good old Levi was more concerned about hetero shenanigans.

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