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Thank you Gert and Katy for validating my points so well! This site does not belong to you or anyone else here Gert. Katy, share your story if you have been through more than Stella. I like fiction some, but not as much as a true story. She told her story with her heart, something all of you are truly lacking. Girls, you will always be looked upon as icy cold, unfeeling, uncaring, spiteful bitches with absolutely no hearts whatsoever. I'd so love to know what Bocelli thinks of you girls! And now I bid you farewell!
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Andrea wrote: Thank you Gert and Katy for validating my points so well! This site does not belong to you or anyone else here Gert.
Katy, share your story if you have been through more than Stella. I like fiction some, but not as much as a true story. She told her story with her heart, something all of you are truly lacking.
Girls, you will always be looked upon as icy cold, unfeeling, uncaring, spiteful bitches with absolutely no hearts whatsoever. I'd so love to know what Bocelli thinks of you girls! And now I bid you farewell! Mean people come and go from our site from time to time and they always "bid us farewell" or some such statement of noble exit when they have had their say. They will return for another round when they get bored, when they feel they have sharpened their wits or when they want to garner sympathy and acceptance or add gravitas to their comments by exposing the agonizing details of their lives. Despite their venomous descriptions of yours truly and my "accomplishes" they continue to seek our company. Just for the record - we are not "girls". We are women. Maybe that's why they're having a problem with us.
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The idea of telling your "story" to a half-wit like "Andrea"! At least Stella was intelligent. I think I need a break from these people . See you all later when the site is clean again.
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OK, back to Bocelli. We don't want to lose Katy!! Have any of you seen his latest video message? I just watched it, and couldn't help smiling. In the first part, Andrea walks along a stone wall at Teatro del Silenzio, then sits strumming a guitar and talking. He then sings a song, accompanying himself on guitar. Oh, I forgot to mention--he looked really good in a black T-shirt and white shorts, hair neatly trimmed. There were lots of close-ups and I couldn't help but notice what a lovely and expressive face he has--one that goes from sunny to cloudy, then back again, sometimes in a matter of seconds. A very interesting face to watch! On the second part he is joined by Adriano, his childhood friend. I have always had a soft spot in my heart for him--the one who welcomed Andrea to a new school and offered to show him to his next class. That is such a vulnerable age--early teens--and kids can be cruel. The fact that he extended a hand of friendship to the new kid, and a blind one at that, has always touched me. So it was great to see them together in the easy, comfortable relationship that they share. Adriano then sings with Andrea and I think their voices blend nicely. I am interested to hear what you women think of this video. This link should take you there: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Carry wrote: 1. We don't want to lose Katy!! 2. Have any of you seen his latest video message? In the first part, Andrea walks along a stone wall at Teatro del Silenzio, then sits strumming a guitar and talking. 3.-he looked really good in a black T-shirt and white shorts, hair neatly trimmed. A very interesting face to watch! 1. I agree. 2. I ALWAYS fear for Andrea when I see him walking unaccompanied in what looks to me so precarious a place. 3. He looked much younger than he has lately and I almost had a glimpse of the Andrea of 1994. I haven't watched all the video yet so I haven't seen Adriano, and I do wish I could understand Italian so that I knew what Andrea is saying. I must just tell you this little story. A few years ago an young"ish" Italian men came to the reception desk at the place where I work. He spoke in English but his Italian accent was so thick that he spoke for quite a few minutes with my friend before leaving without having any real communication. When I asked her afterwards what he was saying, she said in a flushed and flustered way "I have no idea, but he can say it to me whenever he wants!"
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Carry, it's a nice little video. Very simple but very effective in bringing a smile to one's face. There's a translation of what AB is saying on the Official site.
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Clare, to answer your question, I have never lived (as a partner) with a sighted person, so I have no idea what that would be like. I think I would find it rather odd, after all these years. As Katie suggests though, everyone is different. Equally, it would depend a great deal on whether it’s a hypothetical question along the lines of – what if he had never been blind?– or the more speculative – what if he were to regain his sight? The two would be entirely different, naturally. I imagine that, in the former scenario, practical issues might be easier (it would have to be easier on tour, for example, with new rooms and new layouts all the time). But there may well be other things that would be more difficult. It’s impossible to say. There, how’s that for a bit of a rubbish answer? Evidently I need more coffee. I wish you all a good summer. Simone, Simone, You are the most sensible, companssionate one among your friends. I am not patronizing you, believe me. The impression I get from your post is, one who handles her business with her partner/husband well. The point I am trying to make is there was, is, and will always be love for your spouse regardless of his disablility. People who go into relationships knowing what they are getting into first and foremost tend to handle obstacles with wisdom. Unfortunately, your friend Irish harper doesn't have it. She is so angry with the world, as if somebody forced her to live with her spouse. She comes across as wanting people to pat her on her back for doing a great job, and if someone tells her what she doesn't want to hear, she goes off like a mad woman. Any way thanks for the explanation for Clare, and for me. Irish harpaer's explanation did not make sense to me at all even though she made it clear that it will be easy living with Andrea if he were sighted. Hmmm!! that is something. The cat finaly got herself out of the bag. I wonder how much Mr. Vin has to put out to impress her.
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Stella wrote: There is only one of us, Gert. I am a single mom with a special needs child, going to school. The year after my father died, my "rock" suffered a massive heart attack. He died two days later. I probably should have said I was a widow, but I didn't want to appear needy, you know, looking for pity. You will notice I always referred to him in the past tense, wondering if anyone would pick up on it. Apparently not.
Here's a example of just how wrong you can be, Gert because you are so narrowly focused on voicing your distaste for Bocelli and his fans that you can never see beyond that. Because I am a fan and I do enjoy bubble baths, I thought it would be cute to say I sometimes took him with me into the bath. I had no idea my words would be taken literally. I said I also played other soothing music, like piano, trumpet, violin, etc. But of course, you ignored that part and took what you wanted out of context to prove the point you wanted to make. Others followed. You just assumed I was one of the many so called Bocelli whores out there, fornicating in my tub. Maybe I can explain it best by putting it into a Paul Harvey broadcast. Headline reads: Woman takes bubble bath with Italian Tenor Sensation, Andrea Bocelli on a regular basis. After a pause, he begins again - and now, for the rest of the story... A woman from a small rural town with a failing father and a special needs child tells her story. One evening during a particularly stressful time, my husband drew a bath, lit a couple candles, brought the CD player into the bathroom with a handful of CDs, one of which was Sogno. He directed me into the tub put, glass of wine in my hand, kissed me and told me not to come out until the music stopped. It would help me sleep. While I soaked and wept, letting all the stress, frustration and weariness out, he put our daughter to bed, then, my father and waited for me. When I finally climbed into bed, he just held me and I slept like a baby. After that, he insisted that I schedule at least one of these rejuvinating baths every week. I have done so ever since and it really does seem to help. As I said before, I stopped in here out of curiosity and kept coming back from time to time out of curiosity trying to figure out just what was up with the regular posters. Gert, I had read about much earlier on, I have visited many forums, including the Bocelli ones but never quite got into the posting end of it. I never would have had the time to invest in it any with any kind of regularity anyway. Why, I decided to jump in here, I don't know. I'm not sure now what possessed me especially since by the time I am able to look in, sometimes you are on to other things, so perhaps it does look as though I'm dredging up past issues. Some may wonder - or not- why I didn't explain more about my situation. I am new to this forum posting thing and I didn't really want to get into my personal life. And, well, here's the thing, people, I shouldn't have had to.
When I was so brazen as to call Gert or others one of the more mean spirited posts, I was slammed and called a bitch, an idiot, a Bocelli whore, someone who is in dire need of anger management and incapable of understanding anything at all. If I don't like the way things are why do I even come here at all. Indeed! That all puts one in a very defensive position and maybe why it seems to some like a hive mind mentality. You can agree and disagree amongst yourselves but others are not allowed. And my complaints are not always attached to a disability, not that it matters much because somehow words and meanings get twisted around to suit the return post. Stella, I shall miss you, but the bond will always be there. Remember, you are not leaving because they are driving you away but because you don't want to fratenize with women with low level mentality.
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Katy wrote: I didn't intend to post here until all the silliness died down but "Andrea" made a comment which reminded me of something I would have liked to say to Stella and which I now say to her as well.
I am very sorry to hear of her difficulties as I am always sorry to hear of the hardships of others.
How can "Andrea" assert that Stella has had more hardship "than these women"? How does she know that? What is that based on? Noone here has posted detail about their personal lives.
Perhaps some of us have had personal problems equal to or exceeding Stella's.
We are castigated if we discuss items Bocelli but we do it on the basis of information in the public domain. This may not be accurate but we don't invent it.
"Andrea's" statement is outrageous and baseless.
I agree with Gert that when she goes the discussion and sometimes the forum goes too..
This must be because so many people are negative and just love to hate. They have nothing positive to offer, no original ideas and can only wait to pounce on something they disagree with as an outlet for anger and frustration.
Noone has ever been attacked for their views - only for the way in which they expressed them.
Negative posters appear shocked that most of us are totally inconcerned by these attacks. can't they see that verbal abuse and totally unfounded
conclusions are hardly likely to bring them any respect . They are doing themselves and their views,no favours at all.
This forum was supposed to be about Bocelli not about bitching about other posters. Katy, you are a hypocrite
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Andrea wrote: Thank you Gert and Katy for validating my points so well! This site does not belong to you or anyone else here Gert.
Katy, share your story if you have been through more than Stella. I like fiction some, but not as much as a true story. She told her story with her heart, something all of you are truly lacking.
Girls, you will always be looked upon as icy cold, unfeeling, uncaring, spiteful bitches with absolutely no hearts whatsoever. I'd so love to know what Bocelli thinks of you girls! And now I bid you farewell! Andrea; the name Gert likes to shout out when she is in her lonely bed and love to bash when she comes on this forum. What an irony. My dear, the point I'm trying to make is, don't waste your time on this women. They are lonely and desparate.
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Gert wrote: <quoted text>
Mean people come and go from our site from time to time and they always "bid us farewell" or some such statement of noble exit when they have had their say. They will return for another round when they get bored, when they feel they have sharpened their wits or when they want to garner sympathy and acceptance or add gravitas to their comments by exposing the agonizing details of their lives. Despite their venomous descriptions of yours truly and my "accomplishes" they continue to seek our company.
Just for the record - we are not "girls". We are women. Maybe that's why they're having a problem with us. Gert, I forgot to tell you, you could be a lonely man too.
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Andrea wrote: Thank you Gert and Katy for validating my points so well! This site does not belong to you or anyone else here Gert.
Katy, share your story if you have been through more than Stella. I like fiction some, but not as much as a true story. She told her story with her heart, something all of you are truly lacking.
Girls, you will always be looked upon as icy cold, unfeeling, uncaring, spiteful bitches with absolutely no hearts whatsoever. I'd so love to know what Bocelli thinks of you girls! And now I bid you farewell! Andrea, I need to make a correction. I meant to say "don't waste your time on these lonely women."
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Stella wrote: There is only one of us, Gert. I am a single mom with a special needs child, going to school. The year after my father died, my "rock" suffered a massive heart attack. He died two days later. I probably should have said I was a widow, but I didn't want to appear needy, you know, looking for pity. You will notice I always referred to him in the past tense, wondering if anyone would pick up on it. Apparently not.
Here's a example of just how wrong you can be, Gert because you are so narrowly focused on voicing your distaste for Bocelli and his fans that you can never see beyond that. Because I am a fan and I do enjoy bubble baths, I thought it would be cute to say I sometimes took him with me into the bath. I had no idea my words would be taken literally. I said I also played other soothing music, like piano, trumpet, violin, etc. But of course, you ignored that part and took what you wanted out of context to prove the point you wanted to make. Others followed. You just assumed I was one of the many so called Bocelli whores out there, fornicating in my tub. Maybe I can explain it best by putting it into a Paul Harvey broadcast. Headline reads: Woman takes bubble bath with Italian Tenor Sensation, Andrea Bocelli on a regular basis. After a pause, he begins again - and now, for the rest of the story... A woman from a small rural town with a failing father and a special needs child tells her story. One evening during a particularly stressful time, my husband drew a bath, lit a couple candles, brought the CD player into the bathroom with a handful of CDs, one of which was Sogno. He directed me into the tub put, glass of wine in my hand, kissed me and told me not to come out until the music stopped. It would help me sleep. While I soaked and wept, letting all the stress, frustration and weariness out, he put our daughter to bed, then, my father and waited for me. When I finally climbed into bed, he just held me and I slept like a baby. After that, he insisted that I schedule at least one of these rejuvinating baths every week. I have done so ever since and it really does seem to help. As I said before, I stopped in here out of curiosity and kept coming back from time to time out of curiosity trying to figure out just what was up with the regular posters. Gert, I had read about much earlier on, I have visited many forums, including the Bocelli ones but never quite got into the posting end of it. I never would have had the time to invest in it any with any kind of regularity anyway. Why, I decided to jump in here, I don't know. I'm not sure now what possessed me especially since by the time I am able to look in, sometimes you are on to other things, so perhaps it does look as though I'm dredging up past issues. Some may wonder - or not- why I didn't explain more about my situation. I am new to this forum posting thing and I didn't really want to get into my personal life. And, well, here's the thing, people, I shouldn't have had to.
When I was so brazen as to call Gert or others one of the more mean spirited posts, I was slammed and called a bitch, an idiot, a Bocelli whore, someone who is in dire need of anger management and incapable of understanding anything at all. If I don't like the way things are why do I even come here at all. Indeed! That all puts one in a very defensive position and maybe why it seems to some like a hive mind mentality. You can agree and disagree amongst yourselves but others are not allowed. And my complaints are not always attached to a disability, not that it matters much because somehow words and meanings get twisted around to suit the return post. Stella. that was touching, especially the bubble bath part. I wish my husband and I were there with you and yours enjoying the melody of Andrea. Hmmmm!!! Hey ladies, let the bashing begin!!!
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Katy,
you are a hypocrite Amen.
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Gert wrote: <quoted text>
Yes but some of these posters - Stella being just the latest - make this feel like a disability derby. The more handicapped and pathetic you are, the more insight and status you can claim. If you accept disability and say "oh well" and refuse patronage and special treatment, you're insensitive or clueless.
Now, every time I click on here, I see an ad - a man's naked chest with breasts - just like Andrea's would look without a shirt - absolutely. Gynecomastia! Does everyone get this ad or is it just me? Do you think it is on a Bocelli thread because of his issues in this area? Just wondering. God, you are one COLD S.O.B. lady!! I don't think you have one single ounce of compassion for another human being, though I'm sure you will tell us about all the good you have done over your 62 boring years. You really couldn't get any lower Gert. Remember the incident of the teenagers beating that other poor girl and put it on myspace for all to see? Well that is what you people remind me of only instead of physically, it is verbally.
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Gert wrote: I have never been kicked off any site permanently. I am still on the OS and my relationship with BOL has been described in detail in this thread. I am there as well, not that I care to post on either of them at present so your information is incorrect. However, if you and your friends, whomever they may be, wish to keep the Bocelli conversation going, be my guest here or elsewhere. It has been my observation that when I am gone, so is the conversation. What remains is boring which is why, I assume, people come here to be outraged - at what, I can't really fathom - but they do manage to take offense at everything.
So, in a very real sense, this is my site. I have kept it going by freedom of speech and free association, from one topic to another. If you visit a place that you don't like then you are the one with the issues.
I don't knit but I have done a great deal of cross stitch. Right now, I am sewing a "bro" for Andrea. I don't know what the BOL is Gert so it must have been a typo? You must have meant BULL....some thing you have great knowledge about and are more than willing to share. Keep up the good work! How on earth does one get kicked off a site anyway Gert? Must have been something else! I must say Gert, you certainly have mustered the "art" of making enemies on this site. I can't help but wonder how many others out there despise you? Bye!
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Gert I picture you in my mind as a woman of average to maybe a little above average height,(5'8" maybe 5'9", size 10 or 12, long flowing dresses and skirts to mid calve, gray with mauve floral print or similar, usually muted colors, flat heels, toes painted (Maybe) pale pink, small busted, nails short and no polish ever, possibly a smoker, glasses, hair mostly grey and short, either thick grey or somewhat curley but gray, no makeup whatsoever, no perfume, small jewelry and nothing very flashy or expensive, teeth average yellowed for age, earings small but attractive (maybe) not a lot of flash in office, mainly black and white prints, some you took of course, soft music (elevator type), coffee cup on desk that has been used time and time again, could be with dried coffee in it....how close am I?
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Among those who are intelligent, funny-loving, curious, secure, non-whiners and non-victims, I have no enemies. For those who visit upon occasion and are anything but as those described, these folks consider me an enemy. I perceive them as idiots, the category in which I have, with tweezers and gloves, placed you.
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Oh yeah, pants are usually black or grey, flat heels, blouses are white or soft pastel, nothing ever flashy or loud in color.....
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Gert wrote: Among those who are intelligent, funny-loving, curious, secure, non-whiners and non-victims, I have no enemies. For those who visit upon occasion and are anything but as those described, these folks consider me an enemy. I perceive them as idiots, the category in which I have, with tweezers and gloves, placed you. Yeah right.... keep flinging the bull my dear.
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