Tenor Bocelli says 'contaminated' by temptation of money

[Simone]

Katy wrote:

If we had to have another monarch i think she {Princess Anne} would have been my preference. Apparently she works hard is very tough and personally courageous but appears to be conscious of the anomalies in her position.

I meant to say earlier that I quite agree. I would rather Anne than Charles, if there must be another monarch. But that's the curse of primogeniture for you.

[Katy]

i vaguely heard that it was proposed that the law be changed but i don't suppose that could be retrospective.

[Amy]

Carry wrote:

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I tend to agree with you Reanna, that in reality there was probably nothing inappropriate. My impression of Andrea based on observation, video, photos, and first hand accounts from others is that he tends to be very reserved as far as public displays of affection are concerned. The paparazzi have had plenty of opportunity to obtain explicit photos if any such occasions existed. I think he really tends to hold back his feelings.
In the early magazine interviews with him and Veronica, it was she who was proclaiming "Amore" with a capital "A!" Andrea himself was positive about the relationship but noncommittal about "Amore." It is only recently, over 5 years later, that he admits he is in love with her.

Hi, I am also new on this site, and I adore his music. I think Andrea, despite his blindness has very charming eyes. The problem is he doesn't open them enough, which in my opinion makes more apparent that he is blind.

[Irishharper]

Oh my!!!! So much to read...Neglected beauty? Is that what Vin is? It must be...lol. Vin just winds up with really bad hair cuts. I keep asking him why his barber is mad at him. The trouble being his barber is from Italy and he gets very excited to see me as we will talk opera. He can use Italian phrases and I understand. He thinks Vinnie found a very good wife...lol. Gert I have a few discussions with my son's as well. Personal grooming when going out with the family was to them a pain. I demanded like everything, shower, shave...clean clothes. lol. Not that they were slobs but they liked the ripped jeans, black everything or tye dyed everything.
I always thought that Anne would have made a lovely queen. She seems so much like her mother. I don't think Charlie should take the throne considering he divorced and he is supposed to be the defender of the faith.(Wait, wasn't the Church of England founded so Henry could divorce and not have to behead everyone)? I guess there would be no conflict....No I am not picking on the Church of England...I am a protestant before people grumble....Oh gosh it was so much easier before everything said on here had to be qualified..

[Gert]

My impression of Ann is that she is a sour, privileged person though a very hard worker. When thinking of Princess Ann, lovely is not a word that comes to mind. She doesn't even seem to be a pleasant as her mother and the queen does not seem to be very pleasant in the first place. And isn't Ann divorced as well? I think Charles is better. He seems goofy and harmless.
William seems to have the right package - natural, approachable, well-spoken, reasonably intelligent, handsome, clean-living. It would be nice to see William on the throne for many years, if there is to be a throne.

[Amy]

Gert wrote:

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First of all, it is not "their" wealth (Veronica and Andrea) It is his wealth.
Yes, there seems to have been extreme economy while Enrica was around, from driving to comments about her buying souvenirs for the kids. Perhaps that is why she chose to describe him as "stingy, autocratic and neglectful" in court documents. As a divorce woman, she has more direct access to his wealth, as strange as that may seem. Edi once said that Enrica left him as a "millionaire."
This is all very much Andrea's show. Veronica doesn't even have a home but lives, as many others do, in "Bocelli Central", that renovated hotel. This must be just what the doctor ordered for Andrea for he loves the buzz around him but what woman would not like to have her own place where she rules supreme as hostess, decorator and all around queen.
I think Veronica is okay with the situation though because she is a kid moving into a dorm where everything is done for you.

I get the impression from most of you that Andrea is running the show with veronica. It is so true for now since she is so young, however when that girl is in her mid 30s and Andrea is in his early sixties, does anyone think veronica will still be subjected to the rules of Bocelli central? Please wait for time and you will see what will happen. Older man, younger woman relashionships never go easy. Look at Pavoritti and his bride. After so many years with his wife, he decided to leave her for a younger woman, and then he dies. Do you think the woman is going to stay a widow for long? maye when he she goes to the bank to see how much interest she has acrued on her inheritance but I assure you Romeo is not too far away. Andrea in my opinion lost trust in women due to several failed relationships he mentioned in his book. At one point he expresses to his mother, when Marcia dumps him again that he is born to be alone. Poor soul,and I agree life can be very crueland therefore makes emphatic decisions that will shape him with regards to women. I don't think he loved Enrica at all but married her because she was the only woman who showed true love although not reciprocal, in essence respected her for her honesty. After the children and many public photos, you could tell Bocelli is distanced form her while she wants to show affection. Anyway life must go on for him but I still believe Andrea will be better off with women his age and not too young.

[Irishharper]

Hi Amy, Welcome to the site. AB is very good looking. We all love his voice. I don't know about his eyes but I always found his hands very sexy. Hmmmmm. Simone about Carry's remark about Andrea's public displays of affection....Is Mr S the same way? Vin has always been VERY concerned about what is appropriate behaviour in public. I remember we were at a concert once and we had a picnic on a blanket and such,(it was very romantic) he lied down and I suggested he put his head in my lap...he thought that was terrible and what would people think. I told him it would be fine as long as he was facing up....lol...I was wondering how Mr S was.

[Amy]

Katy wrote:

He did move there for a few years but Enrica hated it. I don't suppose Andrea was there often enough to form much of an opinion. He probably enjoyed the water sports when he was there.. The public were told that Andrea and Enrica liked the idea of the children growing up learning French and English as well as Italian.
Everyone, of course, knows about tax havens.
I should imagine that Andrea moved there on the advice of others. I think Veronica would have loved it.
It is a beautiful place and interesting to see in many ways but I know I wouldn't wish to live there.
Andrea doesn't appear to have much trouble spending his money, in my opinion. Private jets ,boats ,cars ,houses ,holidays. he probably has lots of help in spending it too. Possibly some things are less important to him than they would be to the sighted.

I agree with you. With his entourage, he must be dishing out a lot. Afterall he depends on them to make decisions.Enrica did not make it remember? A successful marriage is one with a man,woman and children not brothersk, best friends, mother in law and pr's

[Irishharper]

Oh I think he loved her Amy. He loved her as much as he could with what he had. The blind sometimes have an issue with public displays but I think by the time the publicity photos were being done the marriage at that point was in trouble. I think the statement in the book was a bit dramatic. When we are young we all make really dramatic statements like "I will never love like that again" only to find a new boyfriend 2 weeks later. I don't think he really knows how to relate to a women his age. He seemed to always have a thing for yonger women. I was never sure if it was because of delayed puberty due to the blindness or he just has a thing for young ladies. Gert have you ever read anything on that? A lot blind guys I have known all seem to have caught up and prefer the company of same generation women or sadly some just never got it at all. I was really surprised that there are some that never learn the social skills or had the confidence to pursue a relationship with either sighted or blind women. I was never sure that AB just didn't get stuck in development somewhere.

[Amy]

Irishharper wrote:

Hi Amy, Welcome to the site. AB is very good looking. We all love his voice. I don't know about his eyes but I always found his hands very sexy. Hmmmmm. Simone about Carry's remark about Andrea's public displays of affection....Is Mr S the same way? Vin has always been VERY concerned about what is appropriate behaviour in public. I remember we were at a concert once and we had a picnic on a blanket and such,(it was very romantic) he lied down and I suggested he put his head in my lap...he thought that was terrible and what would people think. I told him it would be fine as long as he was facing up....lol...I was wondering how Mr S was.

Hi irisharper, you are my first contact and i'm glad we all love some Bocelli. You know, I have come to learn that showing too much affection, i mean fondling in public is a sign of insecurity. I remember i tried this crap on my husband a couple of times and he will stop it. I enquired and he told me, darling, I am not going any where so don't rub it in people's faces less you will be robbed off. I do understand now. There is plenty of time to show love and affection, especially at the right place and at the right time but you see Andrea has no concept of that because he is sometimes too egotistical and likes to flaunt it. An insecure gesture ? remember his perils in his book.

[Irishharper]

Could also be the women that he is fixed up with. Those making the choice for him. Lets face it he can't see a women across the room, if she doesn't approch him or if he isn't introduced, he doesn't get to meet them. Although I have seen a very suave person pick up a women by telling her he just heard this angelic voice and he had to meet the angel it belonged too. Yes it was Vin and no it wasn't me. Did he score with her? Of course. I lost $10.00 bucks on the bet. She was very nice though....

[Amy]

Irishharper wrote:

Oh I think he loved her Amy. He loved her as much as he could with what he had. The blind sometimes have an issue with public displays but I think by the time the publicity photos were being done the marriage at that point was in trouble. I think the statement in the book was a bit dramatic. When we are young we all make really dramatic statements like "I will never love like that again" only to find a new boyfriend 2 weeks later. I don't think he really knows how to relate to a women his age. He seemed to always have a thing for yonger women. I was never sure if it was because of delayed puberty due to the blindness or he just has a thing for young ladies. Gert have you ever read anything on that? A lot blind guys I have known all seem to have caught up and prefer the company of same generation women or sadly some just never got it at all. I was really surprised that there are some that never learn the social skills or had the confidence to pursue a relationship with either sighted or blind women. I was never sure that AB just didn't get stuck in development somewhere.

I am sure about him loving her but I didn't get any impression from his book that he had fallen in love with her while she did. Infact he stated somewhere that he wanted to protect her or mold her because she said she wanted to learn from him.(distored quote but in that area of reasoning)With that kind of love, one tends to find the bride stupid instead of immature and that can annoy the husband. Andrea, in my opionion loved her but more on the sympathetic side more so than a fire burning. Her youth did not help either and therefore the break up. If Enrica cheated on him, I wouldn't be suprised but every mistake he made with her will be a lesson learned and therefore will not repeat it with Veronica and that is why she is lucky and seem to blossom more in the relationship with him.

[Gert]

Welcome to Amy. You seem to be a free thinker. Looking forward to your thoughts in the future.

[Amy]

Gert wrote:

Welcome to Amy. You seem to be a free thinker. Looking forward to your thoughts in the future.

Thanks Gert, it is important to criticize him just like we will criticize tom cruise or brad pitt. He deserves no pity and I am sure he doesn't want that. I always feel that we are our own actions. Everything that i say is based on his book, articles and a few that i read from this site. I also do appreciate your realistic view on him and everything that you have said in the past. Although I love his music and certianly infatuated with him, my emotions are not based on reality but perception of him and how I want him to fit in my dream. A thousand of us women have become so fascinated with him because of the way he conveys his music to us at a particular time depending on when you first heard his voice. I still love him but i believe it is the music that is the magnet and not the human beign otherwise we fail to see him as a person who has flaws too like any other man. I don't think Bocelli should be viewed with pity at all because despite his blindness, he is just as any man.

[Amy]

Irishharper wrote:

Oh I think he loved her Amy. He loved her as much as he could with what he had. The blind sometimes have an issue with public displays but I think by the time the publicity photos were being done the marriage at that point was in trouble. I think the statement in the book was a bit dramatic. When we are young we all make really dramatic statements like "I will never love like that again" only to find a new boyfriend 2 weeks later. I don't think he really knows how to relate to a women his age. He seemed to always have a thing for yonger women. I was never sure if it was because of delayed puberty due to the blindness or he just has a thing for young ladies. Gert have you ever read anything on that? A lot blind guys I have known all seem to have caught up and prefer the company of same generation women or sadly some just never got it at all. I was really surprised that there are some that never learn the social skills or had the confidence to pursue a relationship with either sighted or blind women. I was never sure that AB just didn't get stuck in development somewhere.

Yes but remember he did not waste time fondling Veronica in public. I must have gotten the info on this website althoug a little misquoted. That in it self speaks volumes about his relationship with Enrica. What is good for the goose should have been good fhe gander.

[Ciara]

Katy wrote:

Yes he was involved with another architect in the Teatro project. I seem to remember that he designed some stables for Andrea's horses too.
his registered office is at La Sterza ,where the farm machinery business is also situated ,although I understand they no longer run the business.Not far from the cantina either!
Hmmm Is Pisa really the best place to train as an architect?How not to??? Just joking. I have been there1

Actually, the University of Pisa has a great Architectural program. In fact they specialize in technical careers, engineering, astro physics, medicine, veterinary medicine and computer science. That said, the highest ranking architectural school is the Politecnico di Milano. When I studied in Italy I got to know what schools specialized in specific subjects. Andrea went to the University of Pisa but he's just one of the famous alumni who graduated from there.

[Ciara]

Amy wrote:

<quoted text>Hi irisharper, you are my first contact and i'm glad we all love some Bocelli. You know, I have come to learn that showing too much affection, i mean fondling in public is a sign of insecurity. I remember i tried this crap on my husband a couple of times and he will stop it. I enquired and he told me, darling, I am not going any where so don't rub it in people's faces less you will be robbed off. I do understand now. There is plenty of time to show love and affection, especially at the right place and at the right time but you see Andrea has no concept of that because he is sometimes too egotistical and likes to flaunt it. An insecure gesture ? remember his perils in his book.

Welcome Ami, looking forward to hearing more of your thoughts....

[Ciara]

Simone wrote:

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I meant to say earlier that I quite agree. I would rather Anne than Charles, if there must be another monarch. But that's the curse of primogeniture for you.

Hi Katy, I think that you have a different opinion of Anne than we do. Which is expected, you are British and most of us aren't. Although she is a hard worker, I find Anne to be sour. Maybe it's just an impression I formed a long time ago. She came to the US with Charles years ago when they were in their twenties and made a rather rude statement, and of course it stuck. Wish I could remember what she said. She was reasonably attractive at her first wedding, but seemed to go down hill from there. I do think that she calls a spade a spade. I like William, I think that he will prove to be a great king, if her ever gets the chance. Charles is very dull to me. However, I saw the village he designed as a prototype and loved it. I was ready to pack it up and move to the UK.
I think the royals will probably all marry commoners in time. The royal circle just isn't big enough to pick from. That is if it lasts.

[Katy]

Hello and welcome to Amy.
Far be it from me Ciaa to cast any aspersions on such an ancient and respected Seat of Learning as the university of Pisa. As i took pains to point out i was joking. I wondered if the Tower was the best example for an aspiring architect. Strange british sense of humour.

Katie I adore your summing up of King Henry and all his works. Who could disagree?We would save forests if everyone accepted your verdict.

I really am not a fan of any of the royals. I would like to see the end of the monarchy.Queens aalways seem more acceptable to the British for some reason I don't quite know why. I really can't agree that Charles is harmless and goofy.
That is certainly one side of his character. there is another, a most unattractive side. While it is possible to understand exactly how he came to be as he is it is not something which i think should be perpetuated at the tax payers expense.Or at all really.William does appear to be turning into his father. Shame because at one time he did appear to show traces of normality.

Regarding Annne's rudeness ,well she is well known for it here as is Charles and notably their father. they are all arrogant and rather unpleasant and altogether an unattractive and useless waste of space.I hope i have now dispelled any ipression Imay have given that i am a fan of any of them It is a case of the lesser evil.

[Gert]

Katy wrote:

and goofy.
William does appear to be turning into his father. Shame because at one time he did appear to show traces of normality.

How is this so? We see and hear only pleasant things here of William and Harry. I agree - any social institution that undermines the idea of a meritocracy should be history no matter how entertaining, how-tourist-attracting it may be. What do these people have to be arrogant about except the accident of their birth?

One of my sons, who just yesterday successfully defended his dissertation in engineering - when told that the Italians were great engineers - replied in disbelief - Looked at that tower!

In truth, I think the Italians can and do excel in design, in architecture and in engineering.