Philosopher and writer refutes God's existence in new novel

Jan 21, 2010 Full story: The Jewish News Weekly 41

Not many novels include a 52-page appendix. Then again, not many novelists have a Ph.D. in philosophy or a MacArthur Foundation "genius" grant under their belt.

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“orally fixated”

Since: Aug 07

Allentown, PA

#1 Jan 23, 2010
“It’s an interesting exercise to try and pin down these vaguer emotional reasons that people have to believe in God,” Goldstein notes.“Religion is so much more than belief in God. It’s a very William James idea, that the arguments come after the fact.”

Well said!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#2 Jan 23, 2010
You did not mention the book!

:)

From the article:
Rebecca Newberger Goldstein is two for two on that score. Thus, for her wickedly funny new novel,“36 Arguments for the Existence of God,” she actually worked through all 36 ontological arguments.

And more importantly, their refutations.

“Hello homo sapiens sapiens.”

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A galaxy near you.

#3 Jan 25, 2010
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
You did not mention the book!
:)
From the article:
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Sounds interesting! I'm reading a Christopher Hitchens book right now.

“orally fixated”

Since: Aug 07

Allentown, PA

#4 Jan 25, 2010
DebJ wrote:
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Sounds interesting! I'm reading a Christopher Hitchens book right now.
Which one?

“orally fixated”

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Allentown, PA

#5 Jan 25, 2010
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
You did not mention the book!
:)
From the article:
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Sorry. I was too focused on William James. I had to read him in college.

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#6 Jan 26, 2010
Slightly Perfect wrote:
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Which one?
God is not great. A thinking read, fascinating.

“Mindvirus”

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#7 Jan 29, 2010
DebJ wrote:
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God is not great. A thinking read, fascinating.
Have you read Baubles of Blasphemy yet Deb? It is entertaining.

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#8 Jan 29, 2010
kjerstie001 wrote:
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Have you read Baubles of Blasphemy yet Deb? It is entertaining.
No, but it sounds delish! I'll have to look it up.

“Mindvirus”

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#9 Jan 29, 2010
DebJ wrote:
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No, but it sounds delish! I'll have to look it up.
The author is Edwin Kagin. He is the legal director for American Atheists and the State Director for the KY chapter. His wife was recently hospitalized due to cancer. He sent a letter to the hospital regarding not using religious talk to her because they were Atheists. I have talked with Edwin on a few occasions and he is a great guy. Oh he also founded Camp Quest. Really cool.

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#10 Jan 30, 2010
kjerstie001 wrote:
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The author is Edwin Kagin. He is the legal director for American Atheists and the State Director for the KY chapter. His wife was recently hospitalized due to cancer. He sent a letter to the hospital regarding not using religious talk to her because they were Atheists. I have talked with Edwin on a few occasions and he is a great guy. Oh he also founded Camp Quest. Really cool.
Yes, they always have a spiritual advisor in a hospital. If it comforts someone, fine.....for them.

So you've talked to this man? Hey, I live about an hour from Paducah. When this snow and ice thing blows over, I'll check the library.

“Mindvirus”

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#11 Jan 31, 2010
DebJ wrote:
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Yes, they always have a spiritual advisor in a hospital. If it comforts someone, fine.....for them.
So you've talked to this man? Hey, I live about an hour from Paducah. When this snow and ice thing blows over, I'll check the library.
It's a good read. Here is a link that relates to the topic. He did a debate at a college in 2008. It is a long debate, but I found it entertaining.


There are around 14 parts with the debate and then a question and answer section that follows.
Captain A

Peoria, AZ

#12 Jan 31, 2010
We will see if this writer will have the same view against GOD when he gets terminal cancer....
jack13

United States

#13 Jan 31, 2010
Captain A wrote:
We will see if this writer will have the same view against GOD when he gets terminal cancer....
What does terminal cancer got to do with god? We all die, whether we believe in god or not. This is another BS christian dream that all atheists will become religious if they are facing death. Much like the one, there are no atheists in fox holes. I went through two hot wars and the existence of any god was not on my mind. It would have been to much of a distraction to staying alive. And I was not the only atheist there. I also know a lot of men who lost their faith in god after they had seen the results of combat. So go peddle your phony hate filled message elsewhere. Your as bad as that broad that comes on here and wishes us all a visit to some imaginary lake of fire.

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#14 Jan 31, 2010
kjerstie001 wrote:
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It's a good read. Here is a link that relates to the topic. He did a debate at a college in 2008. It is a long debate, but I found it entertaining.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =8pvRv3mwkV0XX
There are around 14 parts with the debate and then a question and answer section that follows.
I've bookmarked it, I particularly look forward to the Q&A part;0)

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#15 Jan 31, 2010
jack13 wrote:
<quoted text> What does terminal cancer got to do with god? We all die, whether we believe in god or not. This is another BS christian dream that all atheists will become religious if they are facing death. Much like the one, there are no atheists in fox holes. I went through two hot wars and the existence of any god was not on my mind. It would have been to much of a distraction to staying alive. And I was not the only atheist there. I also know a lot of men who lost their faith in god after they had seen the results of combat. So go peddle your phony hate filled message elsewhere. Your as bad as that broad that comes on here and wishes us all a visit to some imaginary lake of fire.
They each think they're the first one to come up with that particular argument *chuckles*

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

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#16 Jan 31, 2010
Captain A wrote:
We will see if this writer will have the same view against GOD when he gets terminal cancer....
Lovely: your HATE is showing, christard.

What to expect, though, from a member of a HATE-cult (christianity)
jack13

United States

#17 Feb 1, 2010
Captain A wrote:
We will see if this writer will have the same view against GOD when he gets terminal cancer....
Just what are you a captain of? A ship, row boat, and army of christians? I see an A there also. Does that denote a particular part of your anatomy you resemble?

“Mindvirus”

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#18 Feb 1, 2010
Captain A wrote:
We will see if this writer will have the same view against GOD when he gets terminal cancer....
I'll be sure to tell him what you said douche bag. You would be no match in a debate against him, and he has probably heard worse from the likes of you and your kind.

Since: Mar 09

Oakland, CA

#19 Feb 6, 2010
Captain A wrote:
We will see if this writer will have the same view against GOD when he gets terminal cancer....
Well I have had a near death experience, stopped breathing- they had to bring me back in life in the hospital....before I lost consciousness I thought I was going to die...no sudden religion for me...no bright light or feeling of well being- just nothingness-so I would have to dispute your statement that when we atheists/ agnostics are near death that we have a change of heart about your god.

“I'm Susan's Troll”

Since: Feb 10

Susanville

#20 Feb 6, 2010
Union Maid CA wrote:
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Well I have had a near death experience, stopped breathing- they had to bring me back in life in the hospital....before I lost consciousness I thought I was going to die...no sudden religion for me...no bright light or feeling of well being- just nothingness-so I would have to dispute your statement that when we atheists/ agnostics are near death that we have a change of heart about your god.
Hey Auntie Em, do you like my West Coast persona?

I agree with you, I've had a similar experience and it didn't make me religious.

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