Is There A Right Way To Be Gay?

Oct 4, 2012 | Posted by: Rick in Kansas | Full story: nhpr.org

In an essay titled "How to be Gay" written for the review section of The Chronicle of Higher Education last month, David M. Halperin offered this provocative passage:

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I do not believe in gay "culture" and think this is frankly a load of crap. Yes, there may be a gay male sensibility in the way we approach things but is that what one would call culture? Isn't the whole bar/clone/"I will survive" thing more or less a commercial concoction? How can one call that a culture? It is a passing subculture at best. Pre-stonewall gays had other behaviour which has also passed. I'll bet there are damned few men under 40 who have been called "Miss Thing." The goal of the gay movement need not be total assimilation, but I think if we are going to celebrate "culture" it should be something that has been around for more than one generation. I know a lot of gay people will take exception to this.

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JohnInToronto wrote:
I do not believe in gay "culture" and think this is frankly a load of crap. Yes, there may be a gay male sensibility in the way we approach things but is that what one would call culture? Isn't the whole bar/clone/"I will survive" thing more or less a commercial concoction? How can one call that a culture? It is a passing subculture at best. Pre-stonewall gays had other behaviour which has also passed. I'll bet there are damned few men under 40 who have been called "Miss Thing." The goal of the gay movement need not be total assimilation, but I think if we are going to celebrate "culture" it should be something that has been around for more than one generation. I know a lot of gay people will take exception to this.
I agree with you, the loud proiscus bar crowd, that like to intentionally aggrivate everyone, including me, do not represent the majority of gay people. Most of us are boringly normal and moral. I am tired of the stereotype they create for us, and I will not be definned by their drunken stupor of a life.

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Just be yourself! That was easy.

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JohnInToronto wrote:
I do not believe in gay "culture" and think this is frankly a load of crap. Yes, there may be a gay male sensibility in the way we approach things but is that what one would call culture? Isn't the whole bar/clone/"I will survive" thing more or less a commercial concoction? How can one call that a culture? It is a passing subculture at best. Pre-stonewall gays had other behaviour which has also passed. I'll bet there are damned few men under 40 who have been called "Miss Thing." The goal of the gay movement need not be total assimilation, but I think if we are going to celebrate "culture" it should be something that has been around for more than one generation. I know a lot of gay people will take exception to this.
I think it rests more on the approach to all things "camp". There are simply no barriers; no gender roles and stereotypes, and the str8s can't understand that freedom.

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Of course there is !!!

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JohnInToronto wrote:
I do not believe in gay "culture" and think this is frankly a load of crap. Yes, there may be a gay male sensibility in the way we approach things but is that what one would call culture? Isn't the whole bar/clone/"I will survive" thing more or less a commercial concoction? How can one call that a culture? It is a passing subculture at best. Pre-stonewall gays had other behaviour which has also passed. I'll bet there are damned few men under 40 who have been called "Miss Thing." The goal of the gay movement need not be total assimilation, but I think if we are going to celebrate "culture" it should be something that has been around for more than one generation. I know a lot of gay people will take exception to this.
There have been gay people for thousands of years. Gay culture is just as valid as any other.

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NoQ wrote:
Yea there is, stay in the fking closet.
You do that well too!! Thanks for the advice.

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<quoted text>You do that well too!! Thanks for the advice.
But cowering in that closet is making him such an angry little man! He's about to go postal any day now. Those hinges will come flying off and splinters will be flying everywhere!
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NE Jade wrote:
<quoted text>But cowering in that closet is making him such an angry little man! He's about to go postal any day now. Those hinges will come flying off and splinters will be flying everywhere!
Hey, what happened to your thread?

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There have been gay people for thousands of years. Gay culture is just as valid as any other.
No one denied we have been around for millions, not thousands, of years. But culture derives from either ethnicity or geography. All else is subculture. Alexander the Great may have been the most important gay man in history and certainly influenced Western (and possibly Eastern) culture in general, but he did not hand down anything to me as one gay person to another. Do you see my point?

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JohnInToronto wrote:
<quoted text>No one denied we have been around for millions, not thousands, of years. But culture derives from either ethnicity or geography. All else is subculture. Alexander the Great may have been the most important gay man in history and certainly influenced Western (and possibly Eastern) culture in general, but he did not hand down anything to me as one gay person to another. Do you see my point?
I do see your point, but modern day idols like Adam Lambert and Elton John might influence gay communities, wouldn't you agree?
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In another thread, if you were paying attention, I described my own observation that there are two distinct types of gays, causing a "barbell" shaped distribution.
At one end of the barbell there are what we refer to as the "Good Gays", and on the other end, what we refer to as the "Queers".
Unfortunately, the "Q"s greatly outnumber the "Good Gays", and the "Q"s are the only type found on Topix.
APA, you may quote me on this.
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Jerry Sandusky and other homosexuals like him show one way to be "gay". Currently, Jerry's way of practicing homosexuality is illegal.
Before too long, homosexuals will find that it's wrong for society to judge and jail people who practice their homosexuality the way Jerry did and make it just another OK way to be "gay", as long as they tell everybody how proud they are of touching kids. Because they were born that way, elevating them to victims that can't be judged or held responsible.
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Junior E wrote:
In another thread, if you were paying attention, I described my own observation that there are two distinct types of gays, causing a "barbell" shaped distribution.
At one end of the barbell there are what we refer to as the "Good Gays", and on the other end, what we refer to as the "Queers".
Unfortunately, the "Q"s greatly outnumber the "Good Gays", and the "Q"s are the only type found on Topix.
APA, you may quote me on this.
One thing's for sure, both ends of a queer barbell have poop on it.

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AscendedFalmer wrote:
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I do see your point, but modern day idols like Adam Lambert and Elton John might influence gay communities, wouldn't you agree?
Of course, as major members, but what would we be taking away from them that is lasting? We are not all going to start wearing huge glasses and bad hairpieces.

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