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AKRoy
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ashu-mumbai wrote: Is the no. of postings in any forum is a criterian of judging any thing?
If yes then we are definitely living in fool's paradize.
Just for arguments sake, Amit's fams might be sure of themselves to that level that they don't give it a value.
Its not a way to judge the things.
Seeing is believing My dear Radzi. Why not? In spite of all kind of media manipulation, in the Forums no manipulation is still managed by the AB, perhaps owing to the reason that he is unknown about this forum. So most genuine persons are posting here and his fraud fans are failed to reach here.
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ashu-mumbai
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Rajeev:
On other hand you can also say that Amit is more flexible and has all kinds of ingredients to become and then remain successful as per the definition of modern world.
And I sincerly doubt that Kaka willingly did not wish to indulge in activities for remaining successful.Actually he lacked so many things in his personality which caused his down fall.
Whether what Amit is doing is ethical or not is a sepearate topic for discussion but he is considered more successful than others.
Regarding ethics amd moral values, if we point one finger to others, rest of the fingers come towards our own side.
So everyone has his share of so called shortcomings .Amit and Kaka both are no exceptions.
And when we all feel that KAKA is willingly doing all these and he can not go as down as Amit then where is the need for discussion?
If Kaka is not willing to play as per prevailing rules then let it continue like this without any grudges.
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radzi
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Sunny wrote: Also it is not a historical fact that Rajesh Khanna was the first superstar. I think that is just a lie. Media lie.
For me Dilip Kumar was a bigger star than Khanna, and he came before him. Sunny... Dilip Kumar did not have all cenema in Bombay playing his movies "simultaneously" for months.... That is a phenomena that never before happened and will never happen again. Because of that, the term "Superstar" was coined to Rajesh Khanna. The current terminology "superstar" used today is polluted and diluted.
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radzi
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ashu-mumbai wrote: Is the no. of postings in any forum is a criterian of judging any thing?
If yes then we are definitely living in fool's paradize.
Just for arguments sake, Amit's fams might be sure of themselves to that level that they don't give it a value.
Its not a way to judge the things.
Seeing is believing My dear Radzi. Is not a criteria. It is just an "indicator". Statistically any indicator can be used as a measure or used it as a "Gauge". Here I am intrigue that this potential "gauge" is indicating that Amit is not that popular as hyped. Whether this "gauge" is accurate is another matter. That would require GR&R analysis.
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Ashu-Mumbai
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You have a capacity of getting results as per your wish Radzi even with Gauge R& R analysis.
When you are determined to prove that Kaka still is more popular than Amit then no analysis will work.
In quite obvious things, these techniques are neither used nor required except for checking the validity part.
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AKRoy
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Ashu-Mumbai wrote: You have a capacity of getting results as per your wish Radzi even with Gauge R& R analysis.
When you are determined to prove that Kaka still is more popular than Amit then no analysis will work.
In quite obvious things, these techniques are neither used nor required except for checking the validity part. I think now we are discussing useless topic for just passing the time. Overall Kaka is a genuine performer with lot of talent and Amit was a saleable star for multistar films with cheap entertainment base and a great manipulator to use the media for remain in lime light by all means.
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Ashu-Mumbai
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If it is the only conclusion we are looking for then let us stop discussing any further.
In every post let us write this thing only.
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AKRoy
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Ashu-Mumbai wrote: If it is the only conclusion we are looking for then let us stop discussing any further.
In every post let us write this thing only. Why to stop discussion? I mean to say we should discuss about performance and quality of films of Kaka, as we often used to discuss under Red Rose thread or some other threads. Why to discuss about irrelevance subjects?
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radzi
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Ashu-Mumbai wrote: You have a capacity of getting results as per your wish Radzi even with Gauge R& R analysis.
When you are determined to prove that Kaka still is more popular than Amit then no analysis will work.
In quite obvious things, these techniques are neither used nor required except for checking the validity part. You misunderstood me Ashu. I am not using the GR&R analysis. I am just curious to why Amit as a Big B do not have fans in his forum. Then whether the number of fans in the forum as an accurate indicator to his popularity will need a GR&R correlation study. No..this is not a normal scientific gauge. I sure do not want to go thru the pain to design the experiment.
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radzi
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What is the hottest forum for Amit?
It seems that the Topix has the most traffics and the number of postings?
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AKRoy
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radzi wrote: What is the hottest forum for Amit?
It seems that the Topix has the most traffics and the number of postings? Hottest Forum for Amit is how to capture more and more advertisements and how to hit a film with cheap publicity stunts and how to collect fabricated awards with the help of politicians.
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radzi
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AKRoy wrote: <quoted text>
Hottest Forum for Amit is how to capture more and more advertisements and how to hit a film with cheap publicity stunts and how to collect fabricated awards with the help of politicians. Yes Abhijit. With all the fuss that Rajesh Khanna did not have his own forum and the hype about the popularity of Amit, I thus am intrigue to do some research. I google here and there and found some forums of Amit....But there were empty. most is 7 postings. The 1 guy is talking to himself??? Thus I am asking help from Amit fan (since this tread is also sent to Amit Topix forum) to direct me to a more popular forum of Amit. If none, Then I am about to say "Hype beyond all norms..."
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ashu-mumbai
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radzi wrote: <quoted text>
Yes Abhijit.
With all the fuss that Rajesh Khanna did not have his own forum and the hype about the popularity of Amit, I thus am intrigue to do some research.
I google here and there and found some forums of Amit....But there were empty. most is 7 postings. The 1 guy is talking to himself???
Thus I am asking help from Amit fan (since this tread is also sent to Amit Topix forum) to direct me to a more popular forum of Amit.
If none, Then I am about to say "Hype beyond all norms..." Radzi, You don't seem to be so ignorant as you pretend to be thro' your postings sometimes. Infect You seem to be understanding each and every thing yet seems to be having a hitch in agreeing that.Inspite of getting convinced, you tend to follow a compromising path at times. But I salute you for your courage as you clearly mentioned on more than one ocassion that its a Rajesh Khanna forum so what else can you expect here rather than praising Kaka. This is my opinion about yourself after going thro' your various postings. Pl. correct me if you think I am wrong.
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radzi
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Ashu,
Of course I am a fan of Rajesh Khanna.
A fan who don't believe in all the hype of Amit as "popular that defies all norms".
If he is popular beyond ALL NORMS, then he should have a FORUM that is BUSY beyond all norms???
Show me this FORUM.
Please....
Thanks you in advance
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Ashu-Mumbai
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But who is saying that Amit is popular beyond all norms?
But yes he definitely is far more popular than Rajesh Khanna today.
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radzi
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"Amit popularity defies all norms" is the article which triggered this thread.
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AKRoy
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Ashu-Mumbai wrote: But who is saying that Amit is popular beyond all norms?
But yes he definitely is far more popular than Rajesh Khanna today. May be it is your opinion. But I do not agree with you any how. If your opinion is true then why under this thread lot of Rajesh Khanna fans are posting regularly and there is few posting in support of Amit; though from fans fo Rajesh Khanna itself like you and few others. Where are the worshippers of Amit who often appear in small screens (Hired people rather)have gone? Moreover, we learnt via media that in Kolkata there is a Mandir and lot of Amit fans worship there during Guru Purnima by uttering dialogues (cheap) from his films. How ridiculously these are fabricated by hired unemployed persons of lower income group class of that area (Barasat). If Amit is popular to such extent there, then in number of restaurants, bus, trams and Nikko Park type amusement places, why always songs or tunes from Rajesh Khanna films regularly broadcast/played by the concerned people. It proves that Rajesh Khanna is more and more popular there than anybody else irrespective of media hypes about Amit.
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AKRoy
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radzi wrote: "Amit popularity defies all norms" is the article which triggered this thread. You are absolutely correct Radzi; in your support I have posted my above posting just now. Thanks.
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sanjay
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Roy,
Amit is definitely more popular than kaka today.
Reasons are many.
We kaka fans must accept that.
Music from kaka's films are played often because they are popular. Not because they are from his films. Even if they had been from other actors' films, they would have been played if they were popular.
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radzi
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sanjay wrote: Roy,
Amit is definitely more popular than kaka today.
Reasons are many.
We kaka fans must accept that.
Music from kaka's films are played often because they are popular. Not because they are from his films. Even if they had been from other actors' films, they would have been played if they were popular. Sanjay, Earlier, I would believe that Amit is more popular, since he is more recent of a star and have more press clippings. As for fan following, where is his fan's forum? I want to see popular from the craziness of fans followings.
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