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Tenor Bocelli says 'contaminated' by temptation of money

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Italian opera star Andrea Bocelli said he was "contaminated" by the temptation of money even if he already has too much.

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pat

Hillsdale, MI

#203 Aug 5, 2007
Gertrude Pieper wrote:
I think people may be taking a leap about Andrea's children and their sentiments toward their father. We can see from the early pictures that Amos seldom appeared with his father and when both did, any show of affection came from the younger, Mateo. An article that was written at the very, very end of the marriage, sadly promoting the idea of family. Enrica, though sitting through a lunch with the reporter in their home, said little and refused to be photograph. To give the reader an idea of what she looked like, they took pictures of refrigerator magnets. Only Mateo was photographed, sitting on his father's lap at the piano. He does seem to have a more pleasant, softer personality and looks like Enrica. He is the more handsome child, IMHO. Amos appears sullen. It was reported that when he was very young, when Enrica would refer to Daddy or "Babo" he would always look at the telephone because he seldom saw his father and that was the usual contact point. It was also reported that both children asked their father to stop singing so much and, obviously, he didn't. Relationships are built with "time spent" with children and so they must be closer to their mother, not to think or assume in any way that she has turned them against him. I think the children must like Veronica because she is young, out to please them and get brownie points with their Dad. When she wasn't on the scene, an older woman, a friend of the family, would assist in the visits. When it comes to kids, I don't think Andrea is a lot of fun. He has little use for pop culture and acquiring stuff - and that's what kids are all about. He refused to bring his kids souvenirs of his travels. Enrica would insists and he said it was not a good think to do - too keep acquiring stuff. Of course, he has acquired a lot of stuff himself but he doesn't make the connect.
I will stop before this thing cuts off.
ok i have read this post, i agree with everything here.
just looking at different pictures of him and the boys, i get the impression that they do not like the attention that comes with fame. at least the older one doesnt but the younger boy seems to be a pleasant one. but i think hes the one who looks like bocelli and not the older one.
ive heard bocelli say he does not want to spoil his kids with money and i guess i can also understand that reasoning.
so on to the next post.
pat

Hillsdale, MI

#204 Aug 5, 2007
Entrapment007 wrote:
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OK...That would make more sense to me than what I heard, and of course I didn't see an interview to compare it to, but I've heard she is camera shy. All around though, they are all victims if you ask me...all but the girlfriend.
ive heard his x wife did not like the cameras and was shy to which i can understand.
i myself get the feeling that the older boy does not like veronica just by the looks on his face when ive seen pictures of him and her.
and u know i really can understand why if this is true since this woman is in the way of his father and mother (at least in his childish mind he would believe that she is the problem) which i also think is normal when parents split.
pat

Hillsdale, MI

#205 Aug 5, 2007
Gertrude Pieper wrote:
No, I don't think he should be different then other men just because he is blind but the fact that we are still being judged on looks BY the blind just reminds us how inescapable this fate is. Also, Andrea has jerked our chain by saying over and over again that true vision is from the heart, not the eye. Well, we know that's a bunch of bologna. Not only is he judging us by our looks, he thinks were dopey enough to by that sweet talk. Well, I'm not and maybe you're not either.
I think Veronica has definite appeal. She, in five short years, has lost some of the bloom and baby fat around her face but, in general, the weight loss has improved her appearance. She is tall and statuesque and goes nicely with him. She is knockkneed, though, and can look hippy and disheveled at times. Also, she advertizes her wares, not always in good taste. Her face is plain but pleasant, nice chin, neck and shoulders. She has a nice smile and can look simply pleasant. There seems to be nothing about her that is harsh looking and she is always very helpful in the little things like guiding his hands to the backs of chairs etc. She is voluptuous without looking sluty but does come close to the line upon occasion. And, upon occasion, she can look stunning. Andrea could never be with an accomplished, independent woman closer to his own age. It has to be all about him. Veronica gets it and he has given her a place on the world stage and quite a life. So, in that sense, they meet each other's needs. That's "kind of" love I think but when I think of a true partnership, I think of Christopher Reeve and his wife. They were truly inspirational. In a recent interview, Andrea said he was never lucky with women until he got rich and famous. Perhaps he was joking but in some instinctive core of his brain, he knows why Veronica is there. If he were a blind, forty-something, graying, obscure lawyer or tractor salesman, I doubt she'd be hanging around. Could you blame her? Without the Bocelli perks, what woman would consent to do for a guy who refuses to marry her and is reluctant at best to give her children, a man who could be her father and who requires constant assistance/
i have to agree with entrap - dont think veronica is a great looking person. not ugly but certainly not beautiful. whats appealing to him is probably that she goes along with his every wish (just like a child might) and he has control over her.
she can be as pretty as HIS mind tells him, and it will tell him that if he wants someone who will be at his beck and call all the time.
so being blind is sometimes convenient for him.
pat

Hillsdale, MI

#206 Aug 5, 2007
Entrapment007 wrote:
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Gertrude,
I have to admit that I had to look up what a consequence is. I'm still not totally sure what the job entails... I will take your word for it though.
Oh wait... you DID answer my question from before! SORRY! I got it now! ha ha!
I dunno, I think his boys will get closer to him "only" because they will take on their dad's personality.
I have heard a rumor to this effect...Maybe you can clear this up for me...Is he more partial to the older child than the younger? The source I got this from was so easy going about saying this, like it was a normal thing, that I was almost sick! They also say the older child adores Veronica and she adores him as well, which once again is no surprise because if it is true...Have you heard this rumor? I cannot imagine a parent choosing one child over another no matter the circumstances. According to the circumstances, it is because the older has been mentally abused severely by the wife during the divorce, but I just don't see it. They have even tried to point it out in pictures to me but I cannot see it. I see what I see. I don't see this woman as evil. I just don't. She's mad, I'll give her that... but evil, naw, she's a pussycat. I dunno what made her so mad. I honestly don't, but she has her reasons, and that doesn't in ANY way mean I am saying Andrea is to blame for anything, so no one go firing up those pistols!!! haha!
ok heres where i get really confused, his x wife is "Mad" meaning which "nuts or angry" - where did that info come from, im really curious now.
u cant really blame anyone for being angry after splitting so to me thats normal. and even normal for u to hate ur x. at least i think it is. and i think a lot of woman will bad mouth the x-husband just because they are angry at them. right or not it doesnt matter, its just the way people are.
like i said in my other post, i get the feeling the older one hates veronica.(just my feeling of course) and the younger one is still to young yet to get a good idea of whats going on between daddy and the new girlfriend. and to me all of this is just what millions of families go thru when it gets torn apart. this family is no different.
one more thing, lots of parents whether they admit it or not, tend to favor one child over the other simply because their personalities are compatable. people are people, its just the way it is. but that doesnt mean u love one more than the other, just different.
love is love and as long as the child feels it then that is the main thing. so i dont think u can think hes terrible if he does favor one over the other. again i'd say its a normal human reaction for people in every type of situation, even in parent and child relationships.
so i guess im all caught up, and hopefully i can re-enter the conversation (and know what u guys are talking about)
Nite!
Gertrude Pieper

Malden, MA

#207 Aug 5, 2007
Enrica Bocelli desparately wanted out of her marriage. She must have been incredibly unhappy to go against her family traditions and the traditions of Italy as a whole. The divorce rate there is only 10%- as opposed to the U.S. which is over 50%. So she wanted out and got out. Veronica came upon the scene shortly after. What was unusal about the meeting was that she left her life and never looked back, like running away with the circus. This intensity may make some feel she had something to do with the break-up because she appeared and became "the love of his life" as if overnight.(That is the way with all his relationships.) I think Enrica may have had someone but I am not sure. When fuming over his wife's actions in regard to the custody issues, Andrea alluded to the fact that another man was living with them. Regarding Enrica and Veronica, it is tempting to impose upon them the usual tension between x-wives and girlfriends but I am not so sure that is the case. If I were Enrica, I would be grateful to Veronica. I think she makes it more pleasant for the children. How Andrea feels towards Enrica's partner may be another story. She is certainly beautiful as pictured at the recent First Communion.

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#208 Aug 5, 2007
Gertrude Pieper wrote:
Enrica Bocelli desparately wanted out of her marriage. She must have been incredibly unhappy to go against her family traditions and the traditions of Italy as a whole. The divorce rate there is only 10%- as opposed to the U.S. which is over 50%. So she wanted out and got out. Veronica came upon the scene shortly after. What was unusal about the meeting was that she left her life and never looked back, like running away with the circus. This intensity may make some feel she had something to do with the break-up because she appeared and became "the love of his life" as if overnight.(That is the way with all his relationships.) I think Enrica may have had someone but I am not sure. When fuming over his wife's actions in regard to the custody issues, Andrea alluded to the fact that another man was living with them. Regarding Enrica and Veronica, it is tempting to impose upon them the usual tension between x-wives and girlfriends but I am not so sure that is the case. If I were Enrica, I would be grateful to Veronica. I think she makes it more pleasant for the children. How Andrea feels towards Enrica's partner may be another story. She is certainly beautiful as pictured at the recent First Communion.
WHOA! Wait...Living with them as in Andrea, Enrica, and the children? Has anyone actually seen Enrica's partner? I'm looking for shits and giggles her folks but wouldn't it be funny if it were a WOMAN!?!?! OK I got my laugh... I have plenty more where that came from believe me...I still say as I say to the milk and honey fans, there are pieces missing from the puzzle and we may never know what they are, but I don't Enrica is totally to blame. Yeah she is for filing the divorce, but no, not totally to blame...

Since: May 07

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#209 Aug 5, 2007
pat wrote:
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ive heard his x wife did not like the cameras and was shy to which i can understand.
i myself get the feeling that the older boy does not like veronica just by the looks on his face when ive seen pictures of him and her.
and u know i really can understand why if this is true since this woman is in the way of his father and mother (at least in his childish mind he would believe that she is the problem) which i also think is normal when parents split.
Hey Pat,

I've not seen picture of them together but I'm gonna take your word for it because your a parent and you can sense these things,but die hard Bocelli fans feel the totally opposite. They think Veronica is like this Saviour from above that came down and just miraculously saved Andrea from the dooms of the hell he was living in because of all Enrica did to him with the divorce and the kids thing. I'm serious Pat, they do! I think the kid is just a normal kid too if ya ask me. He may have the normal divorce issue problems as any child would as you say.

Since: May 07

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#210 Aug 5, 2007
pat wrote:
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ok heres where i get really confused, his x wife is "Mad" meaning which "nuts or angry" - where did that info come from, im really curious now.
u cant really blame anyone for being angry after splitting so to me thats normal. and even normal for u to hate ur x. at least i think it is. and i think a lot of woman will bad mouth the x-husband just because they are angry at them. right or not it doesnt matter, its just the way people are.
like i said in my other post, i get the feeling the older one hates veronica.(just my feeling of course) and the younger one is still to young yet to get a good idea of whats going on between daddy and the new girlfriend. and to me all of this is just what millions of families go thru when it gets torn apart. this family is no different.
one more thing, lots of parents whether they admit it or not, tend to favor one child over the other simply because their personalities are compatable. people are people, its just the way it is. but that doesnt mean u love one more than the other, just different.
love is love and as long as the child feels it then that is the main thing. so i dont think u can think hes terrible if he does favor one over the other. again i'd say its a normal human reaction for people in every type of situation, even in parent and child relationships.
so i guess im all caught up, and hopefully i can re-enter the conversation (and know what u guys are talking about)
Nite!
Hey Pat,

Your input is always needed! See, you make perfect sense. It's human nature for man and wife to attack like Enrica and Andrea BOTH did isn't it? They are both to blame for the public slashing between each other right?

I can see your point bout the kid thing, but this fan said he LOVES one child over the other. Those were her words. I just don't accept that. Now she tries to make amends by showing Andrea as the loving father to both kids. Something is wrong there...very very wrong.

Since: May 07

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#211 Aug 5, 2007
pat wrote:
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ok i have read this post, i agree with everything here.
just looking at different pictures of him and the boys, i get the impression that they do not like the attention that comes with fame. at least the older one doesnt but the younger boy seems to be a pleasant one. but i think hes the one who looks like bocelli and not the older one.
ive heard bocelli say he does not want to spoil his kids with money and i guess i can also understand that reasoning.
so on to the next post.
I could understand that theory as well considering if he were bought up that way,and he probably was. Look at his mom. Honestly that woman scares me. I know she did a lot for her son and he wouldn't be the man he is today if it weren't for here, but, ironically...he wouldn't be the man he is today if it weren't for her, if you get my drift...

Since: May 07

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#212 Aug 5, 2007
pat wrote:
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i have to agree with entrap - dont think veronica is a great looking person. not ugly but certainly not beautiful. whats appealing to him is probably that she goes along with his every wish (just like a child might) and he has control over her.
she can be as pretty as HIS mind tells him, and it will tell him that if he wants someone who will be at his beck and call all the time.
so being blind is sometimes convenient for him.
I'm not sure if it's more convenient as it is just a way of life. I think she saw her pot of gold, so to speak and jumped on it. I'm even betting her opera daddy played a part in the pushing. He was no dummy. I think he "thinks" he has control over this girl...Truth is..She's snowballing everyone, especially Andrea.

Since: May 07

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#213 Aug 5, 2007
pat wrote:
i go away just for a few days and wow, what long conversations go on between u and gert. seems like u two have come to an understanding.
to be honest i'll have to read and re-read what both of u have said but it seems like im in the dark here.
one question for gert though, i thought she said once before that she did not know andrea and i see now she says she was with his brother looking at their picture. of course u can know one brother of a family and not the other but i still think its all so weird and im not following the story.
u two seems to have a personal posting going on here with ur own personal email to each other so maybe i should just bow out now and say,
have fun trying to figure this man out!
Now Pat,

You KNOW that would be no fun without YOU! Your input is valued a great deal and much appreciated,as well as your humor!
pat

Hillsdale, MI

#214 Aug 6, 2007
i really dont think enrica is some terrible person just because she split with bocelli, i mean she must have had good reason and i personally think i cant blame her. i mean if ur married to a man u dont see very much, its him living his life and u living ur own, so why in the world would anyone want to be married.
i remember seeing a picture of her on the beach with the boys and the article said something to the effect that she was alone and sort of made it like she was greaving (which i guess in a way u might do that) but it seemed to me it was very important to state that she appeared to be alone. i wondered if bocelli could possibly have had anything to do with that. in other words, insisted she lay low for awhile so he wouldnt look like a fool. meanwhile he jumps right into a relationship to also make it look like hes no fool. do u know what i mean? like, look at me i dont need her.
but again i think that is all normal behavior when a couple splits up.
pat

Hillsdale, MI

#215 Aug 6, 2007
Entrapment007 wrote:
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I'm not sure if it's more convenient as it is just a way of life. I think she saw her pot of gold, so to speak and jumped on it. I'm even betting her opera daddy played a part in the pushing. He was no dummy. I think he "thinks" he has control over this girl...Truth is..She's snowballing everyone, especially Andrea.
no i guess the word convenient is really not what i mean, but what im saying is, with being blind, he can picture someone hes with to be beautiful, whereas if he could see, he might not be so attracted to her in the first place. she can be whatever he wants her to be in his mind.
someone blind has to base his first impression on a person just on their personality and not their looks. which to me is a good thing, because u can pass someone by, simply because u think they are not "good looking" enough and that might be the biggest mistake of ur life.
but of course i wouldnt want to have to live a blind persons life to find this out. its got to be the hardest life to lead, u will always need someone there to help u walk thru life.
pat

Hillsdale, MI

#216 Aug 6, 2007
Gertrude Pieper wrote:
Enrica Bocelli desparately wanted out of her marriage. She must have been incredibly unhappy to go against her family traditions and the traditions of Italy as a whole. The divorce rate there is only 10%- as opposed to the U.S. which is over 50%. So she wanted out and got out. Veronica came upon the scene shortly after. What was unusal about the meeting was that she left her life and never looked back, like running away with the circus. This intensity may make some feel she had something to do with the break-up because she appeared and became "the love of his life" as if overnight.(That is the way with all his relationships.) I think Enrica may have had someone but I am not sure. When fuming over his wife's actions in regard to the custody issues, Andrea alluded to the fact that another man was living with them. Regarding Enrica and Veronica, it is tempting to impose upon them the usual tension between x-wives and girlfriends but I am not so sure that is the case. If I were Enrica, I would be grateful to Veronica. I think she makes it more pleasant for the children. How Andrea feels towards Enrica's partner may be another story. She is certainly beautiful as pictured at the recent First Communion.
if andrea alluded to the fact about another man living with them, i think it was probably more like this guy living in enricas heart and mind and not really in the house. dont think ANY man would be crazy enough to let that happen. but i say if she has someone else, great, why not. its time she lived her life too. afterall hes moved on and goes out of his way to let the world know this.
"love of his life" ha ha, of course shes with him, hes got money fame and shes gotten her chance to go along with the ride (at least for now) and both are happy. but i seriously doubt if she would ever have noticed this man, if he didnt have these.
most young girls who go with a much older man, are in it for the money and attention that it brings to them. these older men are also in it for the attention that it brings to themselves. its a win, win situation for both of them, at least until one gets tired of it and decides they want something different. but to me, their both "users". and theres no way of getting around that fact!
Gert

Malden, MA

#217 Aug 6, 2007
pat wrote:
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if andrea alluded to the fact about another man living with them, i think it was probably more like this guy living in enricas heart and mind and not really in the house. dont think ANY man would be crazy enough to let that happen
This comment was made in the midst of a custody dispute. He was angry that a man could be part of his children's lives, in their presence continually, most likely in their home - all of this and still the mother is, without question, the custodial parent. Whether he was "living" there, I doubt it but certainly a heck of a lot more than "in Enrica's heart".
I have found that a lot of people have intense interest and stong opinions about Bocelli but do not know his words and the facts of his life.

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#218 Aug 6, 2007
pat wrote:
i really dont think enrica is some terrible person just because she split with bocelli, i mean she must have had good reason and i personally think i cant blame her. i mean if ur married to a man u dont see very much, its him living his life and u living ur own, so why in the world would anyone want to be married.
i remember seeing a picture of her on the beach with the boys and the article said something to the effect that she was alone and sort of made it like she was greaving (which i guess in a way u might do that) but it seemed to me it was very important to state that she appeared to be alone. i wondered if bocelli could possibly have had anything to do with that. in other words, insisted she lay low for awhile so he wouldnt look like a fool. meanwhile he jumps right into a relationship to also make it look like hes no fool. do u know what i mean? like, look at me i dont need her.
but again i think that is all normal behavior when a couple splits up.
Damn Pat, it kinda sounds like he took up with Veronica overnight to punish Enrica. From what I'm hearing on the Bocelli side of the fence Veronica saved him from near death grieving over this divorce and now he's in love with her yadda yadda yadda.

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#219 Aug 6, 2007
pat wrote:
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no i guess the word convenient is really not what i mean, but what im saying is, with being blind, he can picture someone hes with to be beautiful, whereas if he could see, he might not be so attracted to her in the first place. she can be whatever he wants her to be in his mind.
someone blind has to base his first impression on a person just on their personality and not their looks. which to me is a good thing, because u can pass someone by, simply because u think they are not "good looking" enough and that might be the biggest mistake of ur life.
but of course i wouldnt want to have to live a blind persons life to find this out. its got to be the hardest life to lead, u will always need someone there to help u walk thru life.
I get your point Pat. Also though if you compare Andrea's life as he has written it to other blind people, I am sure you will find he has had it a lot better than most of them. He has been able even as a child do more than most blind children and adults have done. He's done quite well for a blind man. I know that didn't have anything to do with your statement...I dunno where I was even going with that...I don't know where my mind is today...sorry

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#220 Aug 6, 2007
pat wrote:
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if andrea alluded to the fact about another man living with them, i think it was probably more like this guy living in enricas heart and mind and not really in the house. dont think ANY man would be crazy enough to let that happen. but i say if she has someone else, great, why not. its time she lived her life too. afterall hes moved on and goes out of his way to let the world know this.
"love of his life" ha ha, of course shes with him, hes got money fame and shes gotten her chance to go along with the ride (at least for now) and both are happy. but i seriously doubt if she would ever have noticed this man, if he didnt have these.
most young girls who go with a much older man, are in it for the money and attention that it brings to them. these older men are also in it for the attention that it brings to themselves. its a win, win situation for both of them, at least until one gets tired of it and decides they want something different. but to me, their both "users". and theres no way of getting around that fact!
Ahhhh
I see what your saying Pat! When I see pictures of them together, she just looks like "fake" happy. I just don't know how else to put it. She does love the limelight though. You can tell that for sure! I've been meaning to ask...Are her boobies real?

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#221 Aug 6, 2007
Gert wrote:
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This comment was made in the midst of a custody dispute. He was angry that a man could be part of his children's lives, in their presence continually, most likely in their home - all of this and still the mother is, without question, the custodial parent. Whether he was "living" there, I doubt it but certainly a heck of a lot more than "in Enrica's heart".
I have found that a lot of people have intense interest and stong opinions about Bocelli but do not know his words and the facts of his life.
You know Gert,
I'm finding this out as I read forum posts and talk to fans. It's like they have it in their heads things are one way, but they aren't seeing things for what they really are. I always try to tell them that there are always missing pieces of the puzzle and no fan is ever going to know everything about Bocelli, but they act like they can read his mind and lived in his house with Enrica and he and went through the whole divorce mess etc, so they know it all. No one does. We can all ponder, but that man is gonna keep people guessing for years to come about his personality.
Gert

Malden, MA

#222 Aug 6, 2007
Entrapment007 wrote:
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Ahhhh
I see what your saying Pat! When I see pictures of them together, she just looks like "fake" happy. I just don't know how else to put it. She does love the limelight though. You can tell that for sure! I've been meaning to ask...Are her boobies real?
Of course they're real. Who would ever buy them! If leading a private life, Veronica would be well on her way to becoming a big fat Italian mama before her time. She has taken herself in hand, gotten some professional advice, I am sur,e and now makes the most of her appearance. The weight loss has also reduced the size of her breasts and, most of the time, she appears to wear more support than when she was first photographed. Big is beautiful only to a certain point and sometimes, less is actually more, i.e. Enrica.

I think the meeting of Andrea and Veronica has proven lucky for both. I do think he wanted to get back at Enrica for humiliating publically by divorce which is unusual in Italy. His male ego was bruised. We all know what is in it for her and his perks are softening his difficuult, arrogant, insecure character which lead to the problems in his marriage. But his relationships with women have all the same - impulsive, intense, domineering - name just one that did not follow this path. Can you?

Now this is a guy thousands of women swoon over, a guy they feel sure is a cut above the rest. Andrea Bocelli, more than a singer, is an illusionist.

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