Russia, Ukraine to jointly celebrate Gogol, Chekhov jubilees

[Orenburg Cossack USA]

Bear wrote:

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My dear statistics twisting fool. You are counting only those who speak the language as a mother tongue. Factor in people who speak the language in order to do business and things look considerably different. A famous saying about proving anything with statistics "Figures lie and liars figure".

Uks language is made of Russian, German and Polish. They don't have their own language. Before there was a Ukraine every one there spoke Russian.

[Jampa]

Orenburg Cossack USA wrote:

<quoted text> Uks language is made of Russian, German and Polish. They don't have their own language. Before there was a Ukraine every one there spoke Russian.

Ukrainian is distinct from Russian as English is distinct from Italian even though both have many Latin root words. All languages have words borrowed from other languages because of trade and commerce.

Isn't Russian riddled with foreign root words?

[brus]

If it is distinct than why do I understand it fluently without a translation?
It has only couple words from Polaks, because they were masters of the west ukraune peasantry
it is not language, it's a rural dialect
Ukrainian is vulgurized russian

[Why_Me]

Orenburg Cossack USA wrote:

<quoted text> You actually believe what the American backed Ukranian government is stating. Very naive!

Your a complete idiot, so your post don't count for anything here. Better yet go post in the entertainment forums on this board, and take that other moron StepOnYa with you when you leave.

[Why_Me]

Jampa wrote:

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Ukrainian is distinct from Russian as English is distinct from Italian even though both have many Latin root words. All languages have words borrowed from other languages because of trade and commerce.
Isn't Russian riddled with foreign root words?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification

"... The pattern was probably similar, if less extreme, in most of the non-Russian union republics, although in Belarus and Ukraine schooling in urban areas was highly Russianized."

[Orenburg Cossack USA]

Why_Me wrote:

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Your a complete idiot, so your post don't count for anything here. Better yet go post in the entertainment forums on this board, and take that other moron StepOnYa with you when you leave.

Has your Mongul wifes sister been able to sell herself at the flea market in Moscow or is she also going to be sold at the fire sale. Does she make a lot of money from the foreigners, what is her favorite position?

[German]

Jampa wrote:

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Ukrainian is distinct from Russian as English is distinct from Italian even though both have many Latin root words. All languages have words borrowed from other languages because of trade and commerce.
Isn't Russian riddled with foreign root words?

Ukrainian is distinct from Russian as English is distinct from Italian? Ha ha I must laugh! Sorry you talk shit, you fully spin! Speaking a word Ukrainian or Russsian language? I speak Russian language and can understand Ukrainian and Belorussian language.

[Krishnamurty]

German wrote:

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Ukrainian is distinct from Russian as English is distinct from Italian? Ha ha I must laugh! Sorry you talk shit, you fully spin! Speaking a word Ukrainian or Russsian language? I speak Russian language and can understand Ukrainian and Belorussian language.

You may only understand "kitchen talk", but unless you have had formal education you will not understand high level Ukrainian or Belarusan.

I know first hand how dumfounded monolingual Russians are when they read an academic or literary Ukrainian university or professional level text.

Italian and Spanish are similar but still separate languages just as Ukrainian is very separate from Belarusan and Russian and Polish and other Slavic languages..

[Why_Me]

German wrote:

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Ukrainian is distinct from Russian as English is distinct from Italian? Ha ha I must laugh! Sorry you talk shit, you fully spin! Speaking a word Ukrainian or Russsian language? I speak Russian language and can understand Ukrainian and Belorussian language.

Yet thanks to the Polish - Lithuanian Commonwealth, the Belarusians and most Ukrainians weren't arse f*cked for three hundred years by the Mongul Horde like Russians were.:)

[Hryhorii]

Orenburg Cossack USA wrote:

<quoted text> Uks language is made of Russian, German and Polish. They don't have their own language. Before there was a Ukraine every one there spoke Russian.

This is a myth.

The parent language of Russian and Middle Ruthenian is Old East Slavic.

Ukrainian is descended not from Russian, but from Middle Ruthenian. Middle Ruthenian was influenced by Polish and German words and became modern Ukrainian. Russian was influenced by Tatar and Turkish words and became modern Russian.

Two completely separate languages. Russian has developed a brilliant literature, and Ukrainian has not -- not because Russian is better than Ukrainian, but because Russian could count on patronage of the Romanov government, while printed Ukrainian was legally suppressed by that tyrannical government.

All Russians have known for their entire existence is tyranny and slavery. Whatever fleeting comets of liberty the Russians have known(the Novgorod Veche, the Don Cossacks, the Provisional Government of 1917) has always been stamped out by some vile tyrant. Fine if you want more of it, but if the Ukrainians want out, leave them out.

[Jampa]

I am posting my Ukrainian chauvinist inanities from Kyev via proxie server too!

[German]

Why_Me wrote:

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Yet thanks to the Polish - Lithuanian Commonwealth, the Belarusians and most Ukrainians weren't arse f*cked for three hundred years by the Mongul Horde like Russians were.:)

Thank you .Write further your hatred thiraden ... you everything pay what you write you fat american hamburger.

[Orenburg Cossack USA]

German wrote:

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Thank you .Write further your hatred thiraden ... you everything pay what you write you fat american hamburger.

Xorosho! Ya dumayou on Zhid!

[Krishnamurty]

Jampa wrote:

I am posting my Ukrainian chauvinist inanities from Kyev via proxie server too!

You didn't answer Jampa.

Are you posting racist Russian chauvinist inanities from Russia via a proxie server just like some of the other Russian chauvinist racists on this forum?

[Orenburg Cossack USA]

Hryhorii wrote:

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This is a myth.
The parent language of Russian and Middle Ruthenian is Old East Slavic.
Ukrainian is descended not from Russian, but from Middle Ruthenian. Middle Ruthenian was influenced by Polish and German words and became modern Ukrainian. Russian was influenced by Tatar and Turkish words and became modern Russian.
Two completely separate languages. Russian has developed a brilliant literature, and Ukrainian has not -- not because Russian is better than Ukrainian, but because Russian could count on patronage of the Romanov government, while printed Ukrainian was legally suppressed by that tyrannical government.
All Russians have known for their entire existence is tyranny and slavery. Whatever fleeting comets of liberty the Russians have known(the Novgorod Veche, the Don Cossacks, the Provisional Government of 1917) has always been stamped out by some vile tyrant. Fine if you want more of it, but if the Ukrainians want out, leave them out.

Actually there was no Ukraine. In Russian kraine means border and thats all that Ukraine was the border of Russia.

[German]

Krishnamurty wrote:

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You may only understand "kitchen talk", but unless you have had formal education you will not understand high level Ukrainian or Belarusan.
I know first hand how dumfounded monolingual Russians are when they read an academic or literary Ukrainian university or professional level text.
Italian and Spanish are similar but still separate languages just as Ukrainian is very separate from Belarusan and Russian and Polish and other Slavic languages..

You know first hand??? You stupidly UkrNazi))) I say what to you. My friend is an Ukrainian. I was in Kiev. I can read Ukrainian newspaper. All people in Kiev speak 2 languages Russian and Ukrainian. All Ukrains people have friends or brothers or sister in Russia. Russian and Ukrainian two brothers folk. And now do Exilukrnazi come and do do HATE? You must travel to Kiev and everything what you here write there say. Simple folk linchen you Nazi As-shole.

[Why_Me]

German wrote:

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Thank you .Write further your hatred thiraden ... you everything pay what you write you fat american hamburger.

Are you trying to speak English?
Do you want a nice fat juicy American ghaamborger my little Mongul freind?

How about I piss in a barrel of kvass for ya, will that work? I'l give it that nice Frisian/Norwegian touch with a bit of American taste to it also.:)

[Orenburg Cossack USA]

German wrote:

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You know first hand??? You stupidly UkrNazi))) I say what to you. My friend is an Ukrainian. I was in Kiev. I can read Ukrainian newspaper. All people in Kiev speak 2 languages Russian and Ukrainian. All Ukrains people have friends or brothers or sister in Russia. Russian and Ukrainian two brothers folk. And now do Exilukrnazi come and do do HATE? You must travel to Kiev and everything what you here write there say. Simple folk linchen you Nazi As-shole.

Most Germans came from the Ukraine and were deported by filthy Stalin to Kazahkstan

[German]

Unfortunately, Soryy Ciriliche letters do not go

[Hryhorii]

Orenburg Cossack USA wrote:

<quoted text> Actually there was no Ukraine. In Russian kraine means border and thats all that Ukraine was the border of Russia.

Fine. There was no Russia, either. Russia is just an extraction of Rus', and Rus' expired under the Mongol Yoke in 1240 A.D. The proper name for that large offspring of the Mongol Yoke is "Muscovy."