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Russia, Ukraine to jointly celebrate Gogol, Chekhov jubilees

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May 9, 2008
 
Jampa wrote:
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Your posts smack of supremacist and racist Russian chauvinism. Are you another product of Russia's neofascist educational system?
Are you that another birdbrain who needs explanation that I have nothing to do with Russia? Or you bloody bugger can't comprehend that people can't be divided into white and black, it should be something in between.

Do you a dried-up snot understand what I mean?
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Oh My God. I just read this post from front to back. What a bunch of crap spouts out the nose of these Russian want-a-bees.

No Russian that lives today or that has ever lived has any right, or any ability to condemn the Ukrainian language. How dare you Russians post such clear ignorance about others.

Krish is right in exposing you all as chauvinists, because you all are. Its one thing to be supportive of ones own language in ones own country, but to attack another's language in a separate country and culture is not only dishonest its unethical.

This clearly shows to the rest of the readers of this forum why Russians themselves have little respect in the eyes of others. And you know why, its their own fault.

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Oh My God. I just read this post from front to back. What a bunch of crap spouts out the nose of these Russian want-a-bees.
No Russian that lives today or that has ever lived has any right, or any ability to condemn the Ukrainian language. How dare you Russians post such clear ignorance about others.
Krish is right in exposing you all as chauvinists, because you all are. Its one thing to be supportive of ones own language in ones own country, but to attack another's language in a separate country and culture is not only dishonest its unethical.
This clearly shows to the rest of the readers of this forum why Russians themselves have little respect in the eyes of others. And you know why, its their own fault.
http://www.deremilitari.org/resources/article...

"The terms "Rus'", "Kyivan Rus'", "Ruthenia" and "Ruthenian" as opposed to "Russia" and "Russian" are used to distinguish between the early mediaeval state with the centres in Kyiv and Novgorod and the independent duchies it disintegrated into on one hand, and the later state with the centre in Moscow on the other. The latter could be considered a distant descendant of the former yet the two are not identical. The confusion with the names is often purposefully used by Russian nationalists to lay claims on all political and spiritual heritage of Kyivan Rus'."
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Stefan wrote:
Oh My God. I just read this post from front to back. What a bunch of crap spouts out the nose of these Russian want-a-bees.
No Russian that lives today or that has ever lived has any right, or any ability to condemn the Ukrainian language. How dare you Russians post such clear ignorance about others.
Krish is right in exposing you all as chauvinists, because you all are. Its one thing to be supportive of ones own language in ones own country, but to attack another's language in a separate country and culture is not only dishonest its unethical.
This clearly shows to the rest of the readers of this forum why Russians themselves have little respect in the eyes of others. And you know why, its their own fault.
50% of people in Ukraine are Russians and speak Russian, you as-shole. Ukrainian and Russian sinf almost identical languages. You UkrNazi
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Why_Me wrote:
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http://www.deremilitari.org/resources/article...
"The terms "Rus'", "Kyivan Rus'", "Ruthenia" and "Ruthenian" as opposed to "Russia" and "Russian" are used to distinguish between the early mediaeval state with the centres in Kyiv and Novgorod and the independent duchies it disintegrated into on one hand, and the later state with the centre in Moscow on the other. The latter could be considered a distant descendant of the former yet the two are not identical. The confusion with the names is often purposefully used by Russian nationalists to lay claims on all political and spiritual heritage of Kyivan Rus'."
Hello amercan as-shole. If you hit this summer Russlan travel or Belarus. You get a lot of problems. Americn pig FatNazi
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May 9, 2008
 
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No, that's I am living in that country :)
And don't care about indoor plumbing, outdoor plumbing, russian nationalism, ukrainian nationalism, swedish homosexuals, etc. What I do care about is cascade Premium, Crown Lager and Hop Thief and, of course, good wine.
Ah. So, there IS something redeeming about you!

Three words: "Young's Chocolate Stout." Nectar of the gods!
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Stefan wrote:
Oh My God. I just read this post from front to back. What a bunch of crap spouts out the nose of these Russian want-a-bees.
No Russian that lives today or that has ever lived has any right, or any ability to condemn the Ukrainian language. How dare you Russians post such clear ignorance about others.
Krish is right in exposing you all as chauvinists, because you all are. Its one thing to be supportive of ones own language in ones own country, but to attack another's language in a separate country and culture is not only dishonest its unethical.
This clearly shows to the rest of the readers of this forum why Russians themselves have little respect in the eyes of others. And you know why, its their own fault.
Every Russian I have ever met has only expressed respect for differences between Russians and Ukrainians. But then, I live in Minnesota.

Float around in here for awhile, and you see how many Russians feel nothing but contempt for Ukrainian language, and by extension, culture and national identity. They are just fine with Ukrainians, as long as they are Russophone and keep their mouths shut. Colonial mindset.
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May 9, 2008
 
Gogol was and is one of the favorite writers for Russia and Ukraine. His heritage belongs to both nations. May be culture and literature would unite us...

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May 9, 2008
 
Andrew wrote:
Gogol was and is one of the favorite writers for Russia and Ukraine. His heritage belongs to both nations. May be culture and literature would unite us...
Anymore of Russian and Ukrainian "uniting" and there will be no more Ukrainian language.
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Anymore of Russian and Ukrainian "uniting" and there will be no more Ukrainian language.
I'm betting that Andrew is talking more about cooperation than anything else, and that certainly has happened in past history.

Ukrainian national aspirations had been muted in the Soviet era, except for some prominent dissidents, who were punished for speaking out, and the Ukrainian emigres, who are seen as lunatic nationalists (largely because Ukrainian national expression was possible only abroad).

It is natural that Ukrainian independence would cause tension with Russia. I'm just surprised that it is happening now, instead of 15 years ago.

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Hello amercan as-shole. If you hit this summer Russlan travel or Belarus. You get a lot of problems. Americn pig FatNazi
Really? Hey tell ya what, I'l post pics of my vacation there on here for ya.

:P

You stupid bohunk, when will you ever learn?
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#52
May 9, 2008
 
Ancient romans did this. They found out that divided people were easier to conquer.
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May 9, 2008
 
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Ancient romans did this. They found out that divided people were easier to conquer.
Yes that is what we worry about.
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50% of people in Ukraine are Russians and speak Russian, you as-shole. Ukrainian and Russian sinf almost identical languages. You UkrNazi
I'm very sorry for your total ignorance, but only 17% are Russian.

According to the Ukrainian Census of 2001, ethnic Ukrainians make up 77.8% of the population. Other significant ethnic groups are Russians (17.3%), Belarusians (0.6%), Moldovans (0.5%), Crimean Tatars (0.5%), Bulgarians (0.4%), Hungarians (0.3%), Romanians (0.3%), Poles (0.3%), Jews (0.2%), Armenians (0.2%), Greeks (0.2%) and Tatars (0.2%).[118]

According to the 2001 census, 67.5% of the population declared Ukrainian as their native language and 29.6% declared Russian.

Even if the languages are similar, it does not give anyone the right to shit on one or the other. If you disapprove of Ukrainian, then just turn your back.
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May 9, 2008
 
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I'm very sorry for your total ignorance, but only 17% are Russian.
According to the Ukrainian Census of 2001, ethnic Ukrainians make up 77.8% of the population. Other significant ethnic groups are Russians (17.3%), Belarusians (0.6%), Moldovans (0.5%), Crimean Tatars (0.5%), Bulgarians (0.4%), Hungarians (0.3%), Romanians (0.3%), Poles (0.3%), Jews (0.2%), Armenians (0.2%), Greeks (0.2%) and Tatars (0.2%).[118]
According to the 2001 census, 67.5% of the population declared Ukrainian as their native language and 29.6% declared Russian.
Even if the languages are similar, it does not give anyone the right to shit on one or the other. If you disapprove of Ukrainian, then just turn your back.
You actually believe what the American backed Ukranian government is stating. Very naive!
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May 9, 2008
 
If 67.5% of the population declared Ukrainian as their native language and only 29.6% declared Russian, it means education in Ukraine is getting worse and worse and people start speaking Russian variant of red-necks' dialect of ignorant peasants.
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May 9, 2008
 
OHenry wrote:
If 67.5% of the population declared Ukrainian as their native language and only 29.6% declared Russian, it means education in Ukraine is getting worse and worse and people start speaking Russian variant of red-necks' dialect of ignorant peasants.
Don;t you think Russian chauvinists themselves are already speaking "Russian variant of red-necks' dialect of ignorant peasants?"
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May 9, 2008
 
coolncrazy wrote:
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Most widespread languages of the world:
Chinese (Mandarin) 1123 million
English 470 million
Hindi 418 million
Spanish 372 million
Russian 288 million
My dear statistics twisting fool. You are counting only those who speak the language as a mother tongue. Factor in people who speak the language in order to do business and things look considerably different. A famous saying about proving anything with statistics "Figures lie and liars figure".
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May 9, 2008
 
OHenry wrote:
If 67.5% of the population declared Ukrainian as their native language and only 29.6% declared Russian, it means education in Ukraine is getting worse and worse and people start speaking Russian variant of red-necks' dialect of ignorant peasants.
You say "if." Is "If" a fact or reality?
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May 9, 2008
 
OHenry wrote:
If 67.5% of the population declared Ukrainian as their native language and only 29.6% declared Russian, it means education in Ukraine is getting worse and worse and people start speaking Russian variant of red-necks' dialect of ignorant peasants.
Your posts are similar to other racist Russian chauvinist posts. Are you also posting from Russia using proxie server?
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