Caboodle Ranch owner fights for his cats

Jan 12, 2013 Full story: News 4 Jax 19

Caboodle Ranch owner Craig Grant, who had almost 700 cats confiscated by authorities in February of 2012, is speaking to the media for the first time in months to try and clear his name and get his pets back.

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is aspca getn sued again

Holden, WV

#1 Jan 12, 2013
Grant is planning to sue the ASPCA citing the group unrightfully confiscated his personal pets, and he wants them back.
mojo karma cookie

San Mateo, CA

#2 Jan 13, 2013
this guy sounds like a uncompassionate and greedy soul. there must be a reason why 700 cats were confiscated from him.

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#3 Jan 13, 2013
mojo karma cookie wrote:
this guy sounds like a uncompassionate and greedy soul. there must be a reason why 700 cats were confiscated from him.
Of course. If some entity comes in and takes property from someone, we should assume it is just and vilify anyone who questions and fights them.:eyeroll:

John

Australia

#4 Jan 14, 2013
USA R0CKS wrote:
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Of course. If some entity comes in and takes property from someone, we should assume it is just and vilify anyone who questions and fights them.:eyeroll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =CSe38dzJYkYXX
The Marxist origins of the "animal rights" thugs shows up in their behaviour.
They have no respect for private property.
They have no respect for due process of law.
They will not hear anybody's defence or argument or opinion unless it is in agreement with party dogma or party dictates.
mojo karma cookie

San Jose, CA

#5 Jan 15, 2013
don't you wish. exactly. frikken. wrong.
monkey business

Gloucester, UK

#6 Jan 15, 2013
mojo karma cookie wrote:
don't you wish. exactly. frikken. wrong.
Actually, John is dead on correct.
NowhereinAZ

Watseka, IL

#7 Jan 16, 2013
mojo karma cookie wrote:
this guy sounds like a uncompassionate and greedy soul. there must be a reason why 700 cats were confiscated from him.
There are several reasons, actually. One is financial gain--the ASPCA stands to be awarded the millions of dollars it's asked the county/state for to reimburse them for expenses they claim to have incurred in confiscating and caring for the cats, most of which seem to have been simply euthanized (or cats already in shelters were euthanized to make room for these cats). Millions, plural. Anybody else smell a rat here?
Dana

Belleville, IL

#8 Jan 16, 2013
Caboodle Ranch was on the radar of many animal welfare organizations for animal cruelty for years. The sheriff hired (for free) the ASPCA to help in the seizure of the cats because the county was too small and didn't have enough resources to house and care for 700 cats.

The ASPCA did not unlawfully seize the cats. The sheriff obtained a warrant. Court records, evidence presented in trial, photos, eye witness accounts can all be found at www.caboodleranch.net
Dana

Belleville, IL

#9 Jan 16, 2013
NowhereinAZ wrote:
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There are several reasons, actually. One is financial gain--the ASPCA stands to be awarded the millions of dollars it's asked the county/state for to reimburse them for expenses they claim to have incurred in confiscating and caring for the cats, most of which seem to have been simply euthanized (or cats already in shelters were euthanized to make room for these cats). Millions, plural. Anybody else smell a rat here?
What source do you get your information that most were euthanized. ASPCA and other shelters held mass adoption events for the cats. Only a small percentage were euthanized due to extreme conditions like "Grey" who was found lying in his own urine because he couldn't move. Here's a photo of Grey. http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/ASPCA_Evid...

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#11 Jan 17, 2013
Dana wrote:
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What source do you get your information that most were euthanized. ASPCA and other shelters held mass adoption events for the cats. Only a small percentage were euthanized due to extreme conditions like "Grey" who was found lying in his own urine because he couldn't move. Here's a photo of Grey. http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/ASPCA_Evid...
Cats die. Cats who cannot move and are dying do sit in a pool of urine...probably feces too. It is very natural. And with 700 cats and a life expectancy of 5 years (if they are outdoor cats) a cat dying every 2-3 days is expected. I haven't seen anything that suggests that these cats were mistreated. I hope this guy gets his cats back.
Dana

Belleville, IL

#12 Jan 17, 2013
is aspca getn sued again wrote:
Grant is planning to sue the ASPCA citing the group unrightfully confiscated his personal pets, and he wants them back.
The ASPCA did not un-rightfully confiscate the cats. The sheriff got a warrant from the prosecutor to seize the cats. The sheriff asked the ASPCA for their assistant and contracted with them at no cost to the county.

None of those cats were Grant's personal cats according to a statement he made in a court document. He claimed they were all Caboodle Ranch's cats.
Dana

Belleville, IL

#13 Jan 17, 2013
USA R0CKS wrote:
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Cats die. Cats who cannot move and are dying do sit in a pool of urine...probably feces too. It is very natural. And with 700 cats and a life expectancy of 5 years (if they are outdoor cats) a cat dying every 2-3 days is expected. I haven't seen anything that suggests that these cats were mistreated. I hope this guy gets his cats back.
Caboodle Ranch was a self proclaimed sanctuary. People paid for the services that Caboodle Ranch provided on their website. However, the cats were never given that care. Do you know what a sanctuary is? If not please look up the definition. You are equating a sanctuary with a feral colony. Totally two different things. Most of the cats that were at CR came from indoor homes and were friendly.

Bottom line, CR promised cat owners that they would provide veterinary care, parasite control, food, water, safety. Even the food at many times was molded with insects in it.

Look at the below images and tell me this is okay. Grant was aware of the suffering and intentionally ignored it. These cats were found in buildings that Grant claimed he cleaned daily. They cat that was found lying in it's urine and body scalded as a result was found yelping in a building. Craig heard it. He could have had the cat humanely euthanized but instead he allowed it to suffer. I know this case inside and out. I volunteered at CR in 2011 and I can tell you that the place was a concentration camp for cats. Craig is a hoarder who figured out a way of making money off of his illness. Instead of providing vet care, he treated himself using donations to a vacation in Vegas, Daytona 500, Disney on Ice, local motel rooms, cowboy boots and hats. He even used donations to pay his mortgage. The list goes on and on. He was originally charged for scheming to defraud and is being invested.

http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/ASPCA_Evid...

http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/ASPCA_Evid...

http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/ASPCA_Evid...

http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/ASPCA_Evid...

http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/ASPCA_Evid...

Affidavit for search warrant: Details informant's observations
http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/Criminal/A...

Probable cause Affidavit: In depth informant's observations
http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/Criminal/P...

Second informant's incident report:
http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/Criminal/O...
Marie

Jacksonville, FL

#14 Jan 17, 2013
Craig can try to sue the ASPCA all he wants but in my opinion its all a complete lie to get sympathy from anti-ASPCA people because he is running out of people to con out of their money. The cats were lawfully taken from him.

Also he stipulated in court with his attorney present that Craig owned NO PERSONAL cats.

This man is nothing but a con man going back years being arrested for felony for defrauding someone eout of money. Been evicted twice in his life that we know, and did not make payments on his car so he is unable to buy another.

So that dumb sob story of him living in "poverty" and giving everything to the cats is a complete joke. He had no choice to live that way because his credit was probably so bad no one would extend him any credit. hence the reason he bought the Ranch which is owner financed.

His criminal trial is coming up hopefully next month or March.

Also I hope he does SUE THE ASPCA. WHY? So they can counter-claim CR's and Craig's behind for ALL THE LIES they have told about the ASPCA. Like they staged the whole scene, planted dead cats, photoshopped the photos used in evidence, and the list goes on. So let him sue, lose his case, and then the ASPCA can sue him and get their $1.8 million in damages that they expended to care for the 700 cats he neglected and did not EVEN KNOW HE HAD.

A month before the rescue operation, Craig told the county he had only 400 cats. So if you think you only have 400 cats but in actuallity you had over 650 cats, obviously they are NOT ALL get proper medical care and food.

This man is nothing more than a narcisist con man in my opinion and should be thrown in jail until he rots in hell.
John

Brisbane, Australia

#15 Jan 17, 2013
Marie wrote:
Craig can try to sue the ASPCA all he wants but in my opinion its all a complete lie to get sympathy from anti-ASPCA people because he is running out of people to con out of their money. The cats were lawfully taken from him.
Also he stipulated in court with his attorney present that Craig owned NO PERSONAL cats.
This man is nothing but a con man going back years being arrested for felony for defrauding someone eout of money. Been evicted twice in his life that we know, and did not make payments on his car so he is unable to buy another.
So that dumb sob story of him living in "poverty" and giving everything to the cats is a complete joke. He had no choice to live that way because his credit was probably so bad no one would extend him any credit. hence the reason he bought the Ranch which is owner financed.
His criminal trial is coming up hopefully next month or March.
Also I hope he does SUE THE ASPCA. WHY? So they can counter-claim CR's and Craig's behind for ALL THE LIES they have told about the ASPCA. Like they staged the whole scene, planted dead cats, photoshopped the photos used in evidence, and the list goes on. So let him sue, lose his case, and then the ASPCA can sue him and get their $1.8 million in damages that they expended to care for the 700 cats he neglected and did not EVEN KNOW HE HAD.
A month before the rescue operation, Craig told the county he had only 400 cats. So if you think you only have 400 cats but in actuallity you had over 650 cats, obviously they are NOT ALL get proper medical care and food.
This man is nothing more than a narcisist con man in my opinion and should be thrown in jail until he rots in hell.
You loony left animal rightsers are doing it again.
Can the man have his day in court to defend himself and put forward his argument BEFORE you throw him "in jail until he rots in hell"?
It is ALLEGED that he had 700 cats and it is ALLEGED that he didn't take proper care of them.
I wasn't there.
You weren't there.
All you have heard is a story untested and unproven.
The state heard an allegation and confiscated the cats. The defendant says he is not guilty.
Let the court sort it out.

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#16 Jan 17, 2013
Dana wrote:
<quoted text>
Caboodle Ranch was a self proclaimed sanctuary. People paid for the services that Caboodle Ranch provided on their website. However, the cats were never given that care. Do you know what a sanctuary is? If not please look up the definition. You are equating a sanctuary with a feral colony. Totally two different things. Most of the cats that were at CR came from indoor homes and were friendly.
Bottom line, CR promised cat owners that they would provide veterinary care, parasite control, food, water, safety. Even the food at many times was molded with insects in it.
Look at the below images and tell me this is okay. Grant was aware of the suffering and intentionally ignored it. These cats were found in buildings that Grant claimed he cleaned daily. They cat that was found lying in it's urine and body scalded as a result was found yelping in a building. Craig heard it. He could have had the cat humanely euthanized but instead he allowed it to suffer. I know this case inside and out. I volunteered at CR in 2011 and I can tell you that the place was a concentration camp for cats. Craig is a hoarder who figured out a way of making money off of his illness. Instead of providing vet care, he treated himself using donations to a vacation in Vegas, Daytona 500, Disney on Ice, local motel rooms, cowboy boots and hats. He even used donations to pay his mortgage. The list goes on and on. He was originally charged for scheming to defraud and is being invested.
http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/ASPCA_Evid...
http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/ASPCA_Evid...
http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/ASPCA_Evid...
http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/ASPCA_Evid...
http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/ASPCA_Evid...
Affidavit for search warrant: Details informant's observations
http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/Criminal/A...
Probable cause Affidavit: In depth informant's observations
http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/Criminal/P...
Second informant's incident report:
http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/Criminal/O...
I don't know/care what the cats were. If they are outside cats, their life expectancy goes down to 2 to 5 years. Cats die. Like most animals, their death is slow and painful. That is nature's way. I also don't get why you are upset about this guy getting a salary for his work. Why can't he go on vacations? Why can't he pay his mortgage? "Not for profit" doesn't mean "work for free." I hope he gets his cats back and sues the hell out of the ASPCA or whoever stole his cats.
Deborah

Jacksonville, FL

#18 Jan 17, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
You loony left animal rightsers are doing it again.
Can the man have his day in court to defend himself and put forward his argument BEFORE you throw him "in jail until he rots in hell"?
It is ALLEGED that he had 700 cats and it is ALLEGED that he didn't take proper care of them.
I wasn't there.
You weren't there.
All you have heard is a story untested and unproven.
The state heard an allegation and confiscated the cats. The defendant says he is not guilty.
Let the court sort it out.
Sorry, John. it is not alleged. The story is not 'untested and unproven'. Grant has already had some of his days in court. The court viewed evidence, heard testimony, cats were counted, evidence was submitted (neither Grant or his atty objected), and the Judge ruled. Grant's own veterinarian testified.(I was there.) The cats were not taken care of. You can view the submitted evidence and court documents at caboodleranch.net if you'd like to see for yourself. What remains are the criminal charges against Grant. The court will sort that part out soon. It is not a matter of "looney left animal rightsers" (English???), it is a matter of compassion and empathy for those who cannot protect themselves.

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#19 Jan 17, 2013
Deborah wrote:
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It is not a matter of "looney left animal rightsers" (English???), it is a matter of compassion and empathy for those who cannot protect themselves.
Who couldn't protect themselves?
Dana

Belleville, IL

#20 Jan 17, 2013
USA R0CKS wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know/care what the cats were. If they are outside cats, their life expectancy goes down to 2 to 5 years. Cats die. Like most animals, their death is slow and painful. That is nature's way. I also don't get why you are upset about this guy getting a salary for his work. Why can't he go on vacations? Why can't he pay his mortgage? "Not for profit" doesn't mean "work for free." I hope he gets his cats back and sues the hell out of the ASPCA or whoever stole his cats.
He did get a salary. This was in addition to. He took funds straight from the donations for his personal entertainment and enrichment. Educate yourself on corporate law. According to the law, that is embezzlement.

"I don't know/care what the cats were." I gathered that early on. It appears your apathetic toward hoarders/animal abusers.

Have you looked at CR's website? If so, what do they promise as far as care? I'm positive if they told the truth on the website as to the real life the cats would live at CR, no one would pay them to take a cat. Also, if you paid for a service based on what someone promised you and they deliberately didn't provide it, would you be okay with that? Craig ran a scam that played off people's emotions.
Dana

Belleville, IL

#21 Jan 17, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
You loony left animal rightsers are doing it again.
Can the man have his day in court to defend himself and put forward his argument BEFORE you throw him "in jail until he rots in hell"?
It is ALLEGED that he had 700 cats and it is ALLEGED that he didn't take proper care of them.
I wasn't there.
You weren't there.
All you have heard is a story untested and unproven.
The state heard an allegation and confiscated the cats. The defendant says he is not guilty.
Let the court sort it out.
I was there and that place was a death camp for cats. As another poster stated, he has already been through a civil hearing and the judge agreed that CR willfully neglected the cats and were incompetent of owning more in the future. Here's a copy of the judge's order: http://caboodleranch.net/Documents/CaboodleRa...

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