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Farmington city council strikes down proposed Albuquerque flight...

There are 212 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from May 11, 2013, titled Farmington city council strikes down proposed Albuquerque flight.... In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

Farmington city council did not approve a proposed subsidized flight route from Four Corners Regional Airport to Albuquerque during a special work session Friday morning.

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#123 May 21, 2013
Still wrote:
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changing the subject and expressing your megalomaniac attitudes.
Is it better to make decisions based on real data rather than your ideologically biased observations. Yes
Is it better to make decisions on the basis of the long-term vs. short-term values. Yes
Is it better to prevent groundwater pollution than to hope for the best? Yes
Not when your answers are based upon your preconceived notion that everything humanity does is bad.

Not when the long term values of America are liberty, prosperity, and a vibrant and self-sufficient economy, rather than increased government power and perpetual deficits cause by a weak economy.

Not when the law of diminishing returns creates an unsustainable imbalance between government expenditure and taxation in order to "fix" problems that don't exist.

What is most damaging to the health of humans is NOT pollution...it's being poor. A vibrant and prosperous economy, free from government intervention, is the best cure for poverty.

I don't change subjects, I CREATE them.
nope

Huntsville, AL

#124 May 21, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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you deflect when you are caught lying by throwing out some more lies - like these for example.

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#125 May 21, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Again, you leftist and your made up definitions. "Sheeple" are those who get their idea from the talking points of leftist outfits like HuffPo and the DNC.
The rest of us think for ourselves, as all American citizens should.
........says a wannabe limbaugh.

LOLOLOLOLOL

Oh that's rich.
Wondering

Farmington, NM

#126 May 21, 2013
CLN: I'm sure you believe that ONLY DEMOCRATS, not "humanity" do bad things.

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#127 May 21, 2013
Wondering wrote:
CLN: I'm sure you believe that ONLY DEMOCRATS, not "humanity" do bad things.
If you mean Democrat politicians, then yes.

Average citizens who are registered Democrats are just deceived.

“26.2”

Since: Feb 08

Santa Fe, NM

#128 May 21, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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No, we were talking about YOUR erroneous statements on unemployment and the rig count. Unemployment remains high in the Farmington area, and the rig count remains low. When oil and natural gas companies are drilling from Texas, Colorado, and Utah, using horizontal drilling technology, in order to access product underneath New Mexico, you know Texas, Colorado, and Utah are doing something right, while New Mexico is doing something wrong.
San Juan County running out of coal, petroleum, and natural gas? Not much chance of that happening anytime in the foreseeable future, what with government regulation shutting down coal mines, and driving oil and gas producers away. Even at full production, there's enough stuff in the ground up here to last many lifetimes.
No, the problem isn't running out of oil, gas, and coal. The problem is government making it too expensive for anyone to get to it. President Obama promised to do just that to coal. It seems to be the goal of the Democrat party to do that with all domestic energy.
The answer? Don't vote Democrat. Ever.
I already showed you that San Juan County has exactly the same unemployment rate as New Mexico, so that means that you must be a liar instead of being ignorant. But the fact that you repeated this lie so soon, suggests that you are not a rather dim-witted liar.

I think it's hilarious that you left California in a snit, blaming liberals and government for all your problems. Now, here you are in NM whining about the same stuff, and your erectile dysfunction has only gotten worse. Face the facts, Bubba, you are going to be unhappy wherever you go because you are just a mean-spirited and miserable wretch.

But I do think you should consider moving to Kootenai County, Idaho where there is a very high concentration of right-wing zealots like yourself.

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#129 May 22, 2013
Lobo Viejo wrote:
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I already showed you that San Juan County has exactly the same unemployment rate as New Mexico, so that means that you must be a liar instead of being ignorant. But the fact that you repeated this lie so soon, suggests that you are not a rather dim-witted liar.
I think it's hilarious that you left California in a snit, blaming liberals and government for all your problems. Now, here you are in NM whining about the same stuff, and your erectile dysfunction has only gotten worse. Face the facts, Bubba, you are going to be unhappy wherever you go because you are just a mean-spirited and miserable wretch.
But I do think you should consider moving to Kootenai County, Idaho where there is a very high concentration of right-wing zealots like yourself.
Well, laugh away, funnyman, because you'd have to laugh at yourself. Because next to the liberal from Santa Fe who's too scared to use a name at all, you are the most misinformed person on this thread.

One, I already showed YOU that the reason unemployment has leveled off in San Juan County is because people are giving up and moving away. That is borne out by population statistics and housing unit vacancies. Not to mention the fact that many friends and family members of my own have moved to Pennsylvania, Texas, or North Dakota to work in the industry New Mexico Democrats drove out of the state.

Two, I left California in a "snit"? Hmmmm... I was 12 years old when my family left California, and at that age, I pretty much had to go where my parents went. So did my younger sisters, who were around 4 and 8. We just didn't have the job skills at that tender age to cast off on our own yet. I didn't become a libertarian/conservative until Carter screwed the pooch and Reagan came along to correct course.

Who says I'm unhappy? Just because you, the Santa Fe leftist, and others are taking it upon yourselves to destroy the United States with your leftist bullshyte is no reason for me to be unhappy. I'll be proven correct in the long run. History is on my side. Since I've read the book and know how it all ends, all this earthly stuff really doesn't matter that much.

Mean spirited and miserable? No. That's just you projecting. All I talk about is politics, government, and ideology. You are the one who gets on here just to attack me personally and name-call. That says more about you than it does about me. One cool thing about conservative/libertarians is that it just isn't in our DNA to be unhappy over the choices others make to screw themselves or everything around them. We work to make our own situation what we want it to be, and live with that.

What? You think San Juan County isn't "right-wing" enough? We don't elect many Democrats up here. And the state voted correctly, with us, for Governor this last time. If we could just get the rest of the state to quit acting like Pavlov's dog, automatically voting in a knee-jerk fashion for whomever puts a (D) behind their name on the ballot, we could move this state forward.
Ted Nugent

Farmington, NM

#130 May 22, 2013
I am glad we have a " Pit Rule"
Oil and gas needs to clean up after themselves.
More wildlife to shoot at.

Look at what the milk industry is doing to NM.
We have some very lax laws.
Wahhh Wahhh

Huntsville, AL

#131 May 22, 2013
the poor oil industry - stifled by Gubment.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2013-05-22/nm-...

NM sees oil production jump 46 percent
May 22, 2013

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M.(AP)— Oil production in New Mexico has increased by nearly 50 percent over the last three years, making it one of five western states that have helped boost national production over the last three years.

Statistics from the U.S. Energy Information Administration show onshore oil production increased nationally by more than 2 million barrels a day — or nearly two-thirds — between February 2010 and February 2013.

North Dakota and Texas have been the driving forces, but New Mexico along with Oklahoma, Wyoming, Colorado and Utah account for 15 percent of the growth.

A spokesman for the New Mexico Oil and Gas Association, Wally Drangmeister, says southeastern New Mexico's stretch of the Permian Basin has been booming. He says recent advancements in drilling techniques have helped developers pull more oil from their wells.
Atomic Cafe

Albuquerque, NM

#132 May 22, 2013
Wahhh Wahhh wrote:
the poor oil industry - stifled by Gubment.
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2013-05-22/nm-...
NM sees oil production jump 46 percent
May 22, 2013
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M.(AP)— Oil production in New Mexico has increased by nearly 50 percent over the last three years, making it one of five western states that have helped boost national production over the last three years.
Statistics from the U.S. Energy Information Administration show onshore oil production increased nationally by more than 2 million barrels a day — or nearly two-thirds — between February 2010 and February 2013.
North Dakota and Texas have been the driving forces, but New Mexico along with Oklahoma, Wyoming, Colorado and Utah account for 15 percent of the growth.
A spokesman for the New Mexico Oil and Gas Association, Wally Drangmeister, says southeastern New Mexico's stretch of the Permian Basin has been booming. He says recent advancements in drilling techniques have helped developers pull more oil from their wells.
The oil business is good for the south, as long as prices stay high. But the northwest is natural gas country. Natural gas cannot make a profit in New Mexico between state regulatory costs and the low price of natural gas. It COULD make a profit in New Mexico, if legislators would get their heads out of their ass.

But natural gas CAN make a profit in other states, where they weren't stupid enough to jack up costs to producers. Those states are happy with New Mexico.

It's a shame you have absolutely no understanding of market forces, because it allows you to be easily fooled. Or be a fool. Which is it?
Atomic Cafe

Albuquerque, NM

#133 May 22, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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If you mean Democrat politicians, then yes.
Average citizens who are registered Democrats are just deceived.
YES they are! Don't let these jackasses get you down, they can't handle the truth, so they have to resort to ridicule. You understand economics, and the natural gas business, more than most anyone who's put their 2 cents down here.
I'm afraid most Americans are being taught to be ignorant of such matters, and that's why there are so many idiots who post here about how great government regulation is. They probably get a government check, food stamps, subsidized housing, and the whole shebang. The most ignorant of the bunch is the the "Lobo" guy who claims to work in the oil and gas business. He's a government regulatory employee if I ever heard one. He doesn't work in the oil and gas business, he works against it. I saw through him right away.
Another

Huntsville, AL

#134 May 22, 2013
Atomic Cafe wrote:
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moronic post. Everyone not owned by the extraction industry is on welfare. Anyone thinking about the long term knows nothing about economics. If you aren't a traitor and think our government is our enemy you are vilified.

go away bonehead.
The

Huntsville, AL

#135 May 22, 2013
Atomic Cafe wrote:
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The oil business is good for the south, as long as prices stay high. But the northwest is natural gas country. Natural gas cannot make a profit in New Mexico between state regulatory costs and the low price of natural gas. It COULD make a profit in New Mexico, if legislators would get their heads out of their ass.
But natural gas CAN make a profit in other states, where they weren't stupid enough to jack up costs to producers. Those states are happy with New Mexico.
It's a shame you have absolutely no understanding of market forces, because it allows you to be easily fooled. Or be a fool. Which is it
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gas will be there if we need it in the future - and at a higher price - with less chance of further environmental damage.

See, I do understand market forces.

Fool
Wondering

Farmington, NM

#136 May 22, 2013
CLN has stated several times that many of his friends and family members have had to relocate to other states to retain employment in the O&G industry. It really isn't that complicated. US Rep Steve Pearce, a Republican from Hobbs, recently questioned the "work ethic" of New Mexicans. He is on to something. I have personally survived 6 BOOM TO BUST cycles in the O&G industry during my tenure. I have also retained employment thru 3 corporate take-overs. The majority of the layoffs are from UNDER PERFORMING employees that are not meeting goals, and in many cases were not re-trainable. In many cases they should have been terminated regardless of the slow down cycle in the industry. ALL MY FRIEND ANY FAMILY THAT WERE EMPLOYED ARE STILL EMPLOYED, without relocating.(Are you going to distance yourself from Rep. Pearce?)
Why

Carlsbad, NM

#137 May 22, 2013
Who care about Farmington

“26.2”

Since: Feb 08

Santa Fe, NM

#138 May 22, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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What? You think San Juan County isn't "right-wing" enough? We don't elect many Democrats up here. And the state voted correctly, with us, for Governor this last time. If we could just get the rest of the state to quit acting like Pavlov's dog, automatically voting in a knee-jerk fashion for whomever puts a (D) behind their name on the ballot, we could move this state forward.
I hate to burst your bubble, Bubba, put Pavlov's dog is that guy who you see in the mirror who always votes GOP, even if they run an idiot or a crook.

I, however, always vote for the best candidate, regardless of party. I am a Democrat, but I crossed party lines to vote for Martinez, and I always voted for Domenici.

Since: May 10

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#139 May 22, 2013
Wondering wrote:
CLN has stated several times that many of his friends and family members have had to relocate to other states to retain employment in the O&G industry. It really isn't that complicated. US Rep Steve Pearce, a Republican from Hobbs, recently questioned the "work ethic" of New Mexicans. He is on to something. I have personally survived 6 BOOM TO BUST cycles in the O&G industry during my tenure. I have also retained employment thru 3 corporate take-overs. The majority of the layoffs are from UNDER PERFORMING employees that are not meeting goals, and in many cases were not re-trainable. In many cases they should have been terminated regardless of the slow down cycle in the industry. ALL MY FRIEND ANY FAMILY THAT WERE EMPLOYED ARE STILL EMPLOYED, without relocating.(Are you going to distance yourself from Rep. Pearce?)
And what you said might have been relevant.....Except for the fact that EVERY SINGLE ONE of my friends and family members who have moved out of state for their natural gas jobs still work for the same companies they did here, they merely accepted transfers when the companies downsized, or vacated New Mexico completely, and increased their workforce in other states after the inane Democrats in the New Mexico State Legislature passed the regulations that drove the natural gas industry out of New Mexico.

Pennsylvania, Texas, and North Dakota love New Mexico..our state trained good people to fill their jobs.

Many who have stayed in San Juan County no longer work in the natural gas business here, but have accepted lower paying jobs elsewhere because there aren't enough oil and gas jobs.

Please provide the link to Representative Pearce's comments.

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#140 May 22, 2013
The wrote:
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gas will be there if we need it in the future - and at a higher price - with less chance of further environmental damage.
See, I do understand market forces.
Fool
Of course. You leftists believe we should all pay more for everything. That's just one of the things that makes you un-American.

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#141 May 22, 2013
Lobo Viejo wrote:
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I hate to burst your bubble, Bubba, put Pavlov's dog is that guy who you see in the mirror who always votes GOP, even if they run an idiot or a crook.
I, however, always vote for the best candidate, regardless of party. I am a Democrat, but I crossed party lines to vote for Martinez, and I always voted for Domenici.
Wrong again there Lobo. I've voted Libertarian, I've voted Reform, I've voted Independent, and I've voted GOP.

However, I will NEVER, EVER, EVER vote for anyone who associates his or her self with the traitorous modern Democrat Party. The modern Democrat Party represents everything vile in the United States, from infanticide to death panels, from coddling criminals to punishing job creators and successful people, from gun control to legalizing drugs, from limiting personal liberty to over regulating everything under the sun, from causing inflation through insane monetary policy to creating the conditions for high prices on everything due to manipulating the market, today's Democrat Party is wrong on every issue, and wrong for America.

What's more, it would appear from almost daily news reports that today's Democrat Party, and the people who lead it, are the most corrupt of any we've seen in decades.

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#142 May 22, 2013
Atomic Cafe wrote:
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YES they are! Don't let these jackasses get you down, they can't handle the truth, so they have to resort to ridicule. You understand economics, and the natural gas business, more than most anyone who's put their 2 cents down here.
I'm afraid most Americans are being taught to be ignorant of such matters, and that's why there are so many idiots who post here about how great government regulation is. They probably get a government check, food stamps, subsidized housing, and the whole shebang. The most ignorant of the bunch is the the "Lobo" guy who claims to work in the oil and gas business. He's a government regulatory employee if I ever heard one. He doesn't work in the oil and gas business, he works against it. I saw through him right away.
Thanks for vote of confidence, but they'll never get me down. I believe in the free market, and in personal liberty, and I know that modern government is killing both. But time is on our side. Someone has to pick up the pieces when it all goes wrong. And I have no doubt, whatsoever, that it WILL go wrong. The leftist house of cards cannot continue to stand for much longer.

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