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Pro-Gay Marriage Hollywood Piles on Miss California

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FBHO

Albuquerque, NM

#1 Apr 22, 2009
I'd like to pile on too but for different reasons.

Hollyweird seems to think it still matters. How far down are revenes and ticket sales now? It's not like they're putting out any films worth looking at anyhow. How far down can they go.

They're already going down on each other.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517449,00...

“Down in the Bayou”

Since: Apr 08

Vancleave Mississippi

#2 Apr 22, 2009
ya gotta admit..it WAS a pretty stupid answer to a volatile question...
FBHO

Albuquerque, NM

#3 Apr 22, 2009
Daniel in Hobbs wrote:
ya gotta admit..it WAS a pretty stupid answer to a volatile question...
She was asked a straight forward question and she answered in a forthright manner as she saw fit. If the PC crowd dosen't like it, Puck em'.

If only more would get off the PC parade and speak their mind.

Since: Jul 08

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#4 Apr 22, 2009
She expressed her opinion and she was honest. Did she have to lie to win?
Demosthenes

AOL

#5 Apr 22, 2009
I said it in 2 different threads, and I will say it in this one. "Beauty Contests" as they are, are a sham. But if we are judging by a SUBJECTIVE type of looks; by talent; by speaking ability/intelligence, POLITICS and PERSONAL BELIEFS should have no place in deciding in winner,
especially SINCE A PERSON'S BELIEFS ARE OFTEN TIED IN TO THEIR RELIGION, OR LACK THEREOF. The Hollywood people are a bunch of hypocrites for not supporting Article I of the Bill of Rights when it pertains to their pet issues/personal deviancies.
Get That Fool

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Apr 22, 2009
XENA 54 wrote:
She expressed her opinion and she was honest. Did she have to lie to win?
You know what, I saw that segment, and her answer was not straightforward. I could tell she was trying to figure out how to say what she was going to say, and she did kind of fumble the answer. Not good. I happen to agree with her answer, but her presentation was not the best.
FBHO

Albuquerque, NM

#7 Apr 22, 2009
ANDREA TANTAROS: Miss USA’s Outrageous Double Standard

Apparently, there is a litmus test to be Miss (Liberal) USA these days.

Until the interview round of the contest, Carrie Prejean– who was representing the State of California was the front-runner. She drew a question by celebrity blogger Mario Armando Lavandeira, Jr. who posts under the pseudonym Perez Hilton, the “Queen of Mean.”

The question:

“Vermont recently became the fourth state to legalize same-sex marriage. Do you think every state should follow suit? Why or why not?”

Prejean’s response:

“We live in a land where you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite. And you know what, I think in my country, in my family, I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anybody out there, but that’s how I was raised.”

The outcome: The front-runner fell to first runner up and Miss North Carolina USA took the crown.

When people are arguing for tolerance and equal rights for gays they undermine their own argument when they resort to intolerant, hateful language that shows a complete disrespect for women.

Perez Hilton has since gone on an angry blogging tirade against Prejean’s answer calling her an absolutely reprehensible five-letter word and later an even more unacceptable four-letter word that begins with “c” on a mainstream news network. He later apologized for his remarks, but then retracted his apology.“She lost it because of that question,” he admitted.“She was definitely the front-runner before that.”

Let’s consider the source: Perez Hilton is an openly gay, unstable and unreasonable left-wing blogger who reports on rumors with great braggadocio — not even real news — and often outs closeted gays in the public eye. If he doesn’t have respect for other homosexuals or an individual’s right to privacy why would he have respect for anything else?

When people are arguing for tolerance and equal rights for gays they undermine their own argument when they resort to intolerant, hateful language that shows a complete disrespect for women. Whether you are talking about gay marriage or the price of coffee at Starbucks, it is absolutely unacceptable to use that language about females to advance your argument.
FBHO

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Apr 22, 2009
The double standard is astounding.

I didn’t hear the outrage when Joe Biden said that he and Barack Obama are against gay marriage. No incendiary language, no insults, no four letter obscenities.

Why is it acceptable for Obama and Biden to have this opinion but not a conservative female? And where are the women’s rights and feminist groups to speak out against this kind of language? Or gay rights groups to denounce this clown because he does nothing to advance their agenda of tolerance? The same place they were when other females who possessed traditional values or beliefs like Sarah Palin exercised their right to free speech and expressed these views: they’re nowhere to be found.

I ask: How can a pageant that is supposedly designed to advance women put a judge who clearly has no respect for females on the judging panel? Enter Donald Trump. The Miss Universe organization is a for profit organization owned by Trump. The Donald, who I wouldn’t exactly call a champion for women’s rights or a moral touchstone, recently, defended the diatribe of Hilton. Congratulations Donald, we knew you were rich, just not ignorant. You can now add apologist for sexism and blatant disrespect for women to your resume after real estate mogul and reality TV producer.

Going forward no participant will stand up for what they believe in fearing punitive action. What message does that send to young girls? You can be fearless and unapologetic as long as you have traditional beliefs? Keep in mind the pageant was televised by NBC, which seeks to propagate and advance a far left agenda. Enough said. Apparently the network has joined the Leftist jihad of intolerance and disrespect toward females, and free speech.

This issue goes beyond beauty contests and reveals a much scarier truth: You cannot voice a dissenting opinion without being assaulted by the progressive left. The left is not interested in debating, only suppressing debate. Destroying your life and career is the sentence for anyone who dissents on these issues. The activists will carry out the sentence with the willing assistance of a compliant media.

If Perez Hilton, The Miss USA organization, Donald Trump, the mainstream media and the Left want to get in battle over free speech and treatment of women, bring it on.
Free is free

Joplin, MO

#9 Apr 22, 2009
Well, she's welcome to her opinion, no matter whether it aligns with others or not. I don't care if gays want to marry but not everyone has to agree with me. It's a free country, or so we're told..
Sunny Delight

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Apr 22, 2009
It is a question that should not have been asked. But, think about the person who asked it. Then on his blog, I believe he called her a "st upid bi tch". He is worthless!
Get That Fool

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Apr 22, 2009
Sunny Delight wrote:
It is a question that should not have been asked. But, think about the person who asked it. Then on his blog, I believe he called her a "st upid bi tch". He is worthless!
That was completely unprofessional! I sincerely hope he will not be asked to judge again.
FBHO

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Apr 22, 2009
Next years pagent advertisers had better be running for cover.
Rene

Albuquerque, NM

#13 Apr 22, 2009
I think that she was asked a question that required her to then give her opinion. I dont think there is a right or wrong answer when you are asked by someone what you think and you shouldn't be penalized for your opinion. I don't mind gay people but I don't think that they should be allowed to legally marry. That doesn't make me a bigot nor did it make Ms. California one. From a religious stand point it's just not right and no one should have to bend on their religious beliefs.
RDRM

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Apr 22, 2009
I still don't understand the big deal with her response....she answered it, maybe not very eloquently, but she stated her opinion and didn't use offensive language, like Perez Hilton did after she finished. If he believes it's a free country and he can do as he pleases, isn't that true for her, too?
Get That Fool

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Apr 22, 2009
RDRM wrote:
I still don't understand the big deal with her response....she answered it, maybe not very eloquently, but she stated her opinion and didn't use offensive language, like Perez Hilton did after she finished. If he believes it's a free country and he can do as he pleases, isn't that true for her, too?
It could very well have been her answer that got her tossed, but since it wasn't very "eloquently" said, we may never know. If she had stated it better, we would definitely have more to go off of. Even the fact that he was so nasty and RUDE after the show doesn't mean he didn't judge her on presentation. But hey, she's the runner up, so she may still get the crown. We'll see!
FBHO

Albuquerque, NM

#16 Apr 22, 2009
CONTACT US;
The Miss Universe Organization
1370 Avenue of the Americas, 16th Floor
New York, NY 10019

[email protected]
Thunderbolt

Clovis, NM

#17 Apr 22, 2009
Get That Fool wrote:
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You know what, I saw that segment, and her answer was not straightforward. I could tell she was trying to figure out how to say what she was going to say, and she did kind of fumble the answer. Not good. I happen to agree with her answer, but her presentation was not the best.
In her interview on Fox she indicated she started to say the political correct thing, but immediately decided she could not sell her beliefs out for temporary glory. As a result she appeared to stumble. I for one think this will make her a bigger hero than if she'd won that man made tilte and crown. In 60-80 years she'll be receiving a crown than no man can take, it won't rust and she'll have it for eternity. Mr. Hilton however is a nobody, going nowhere, and is supported by a hypocritical Hollywood. If my suspicion is correct, Perez Hilton will be the looser in the end.

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#18 Apr 22, 2009
Get That Fool wrote:
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You know what, I saw that segment, and her answer was not straightforward. I could tell she was trying to figure out how to say what she was going to say, and she did kind of fumble the answer. Not good. I happen to agree with her answer, but her presentation was not the best.
It was straight forward enough, she fumbled only where she stated "in my country" than corrected herself by saying "her family". Paris stated "it's not what she said it's how she said it". No matter how she said it, it was still that she didn't believe in it..Paris didn't get the answer he wanted so he started ranting like a spoil little boy..naming calling and the works. I'm proud that she stated what she believed in even though it meant the crown. She can hold her head up high.

Since: Jul 08

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#19 Apr 22, 2009
typo name calling
Get That Fool

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Apr 22, 2009
XENA 54 wrote:
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It was straight forward enough, she fumbled only where she stated "in my country" than corrected herself by saying "her family". Paris stated "it's not what she said it's how she said it". No matter how she said it, it was still that she didn't believe in it..Paris didn't get the answer he wanted so he started ranting like a spoil little boy..naming calling and the works. I'm proud that she stated what she believed in even though it meant the crown. She can hold her head up high.
Straighforward is not what she was judged on, it's presentation and content. If you've ever done any public speaking you know how hard it is to just talk impromptu on a hot-button topic. It's not easy, but you have to be able to demonstrate you can handle it. Miss America will be asked a lot of things and has to be able to speak quickly and clearly.

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