Obama Health Care- Supreme's Decision

Obama Health Care- Supreme's Decision

Created by Willothewisp on Jun 27, 2012

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“Each Thought Creates A Reality”

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#1 Jun 27, 2012
So who what will the vote be, for and/or against? Seems the same splits come up, but for one side or the other. Deadline coming up, 8 am MST.

“US Navy”

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#2 Jun 27, 2012
Willothewisp wrote:
So who what will the vote be, for and/or against? Seems the same splits come up, but for one side or the other. Deadline coming up, 8 am MST.
My gut feeling is portions ~may~ remain but the bigger issue of MANDATORY and paying a tax/penalty will be found unconstitutional. I think other things can be done that will be extremely useful, like being able to buy insurance across state lines as one example. I'm not a fan of denying insurance coverage to those with pre-existing conditions in general either.

“I ain't afraid of no ghosts.”

Since: Aug 08

Dear old mucky Drasnia

#3 Jun 28, 2012
Now we can finally move forward.

http://tinyurl.com/6scx457
dpb

Lamar, CO

#4 Jun 28, 2012
"'it's constitutional. Bitches" LMFAO at your next loss: whine on.

“US Navy”

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#5 Jun 28, 2012
November in even more important now. This is a sad day for all of us, and another loss of freedom that liberals constantly whine about.

Romney wins in 2012.

“US Navy”

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#6 Jun 28, 2012
Silk_the_Absent1 wrote:
Now we can finally move forward.
http://tinyurl.com/6scx457
From where, to where?

“I ain't afraid of no ghosts.”

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Dear old mucky Drasnia

#7 Jun 28, 2012
CornDogz wrote:
From where, to where?
The reason we needed a mandate on car insurance is simple. People were refusing to buy it, and then when there was an accident, the financial burden was on the rest of the people. This is no different.

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#8 Jun 28, 2012
Silk_the_Absent1 wrote:
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The reason we needed a mandate on car insurance is simple. People were refusing to buy it, and then when there was an accident, the financial burden was on the rest of the people. This is no different.
If that were true, then why do we have to pay for uninsured motorists coverage?

This is a sad day in America for those who work for a living and a happy day for freeloaders and the entitlement crowd. Reform has always been needed but not like this.

“I ain't afraid of no ghosts.”

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Dear old mucky Drasnia

#9 Jun 28, 2012
I am neither a freeloader, nor a member of any "entitlement crowd." I am a hard working cancer survivor, who works with those even less fortunate, who is sick of being denied the ability to BUY coverage because of the fact that I had (and beat) a serious illness.

My fiancee, who is a pre-medical student and will be a trauma surgeon, and is a caregiver for disabled seniors, could not BUY coverage because she has an inherited blood condition, Thalassemia.

Broad generalizations help none.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#10 Jun 28, 2012
CornDogz wrote:
November in even more important now. This is a sad day for all of us, and another loss of freedom that liberals constantly whine about.
Romney wins in 2012.
Agreed. I am kind of sickened by the reasoning actually.

http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/0...

But “it is reasonable to construe what Congress has done as increasing taxes on those who have a certain amount of income, but (who) choose to go without health insurance. Such legislation is within Congress’s power to tax.”

The law, Roberts wrote,“makes going without insurance just another thing the Government taxes, like buying gasoline or earning income. And if the mandate is in effect just a tax hike on certain taxpayers who do not have health insurance, it may be within Congress’s constitutional power to tax.”

{In what world is this sound logic? Sigh...the road to socialism is nearing it's end. We are there already.}
Donna

Lincoln, NE

#11 Jun 28, 2012
CornDogz wrote:
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If that were true, then why do we have to pay for uninsured motorists coverage?
Because people break the law and do not by insurance, your premium would be much higher without the law.

“I ain't afraid of no ghosts.”

Since: Aug 08

Dear old mucky Drasnia

#12 Jun 28, 2012
CornDogz wrote:
November in even more important now. This is a sad day for all of us, and another loss of freedom that liberals constantly whine about.
Romney wins in 2012.
You do know that this program was modeled after Romney's program in Massachusetts, right?
dpb

Lamar, CO

#13 Jun 28, 2012
Whine on you losing obstructionists -- BUT, you need to remember your rich-moron candidate was the initiator of this Law when he was Gov.-- LMAO Another win for equality and freedom brought to you by our Pres.-- soon to be re-elected! LMAO some more -- What a great day for the U.S.-- VIVA OBAMA and the Supreme Court!

“US Navy”

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#14 Jun 28, 2012
Silk_the_Absent1 wrote:
I am neither a freeloader, nor a member of any "entitlement crowd." I am a hard working cancer survivor, who works with those even less fortunate, who is sick of being denied the ability to BUY coverage because of the fact that I had (and beat) a serious illness.
My fiancee, who is a pre-medical student and will be a trauma surgeon, and is a caregiver for disabled seniors, could not BUY coverage because she has an inherited blood condition, Thalassemia.
Broad generalizations help none.
I'm not implying you are silk. My opinion is a generalization only, not a personal one. I know someone who will benefit from this, however I've left that personal side of the discussion out of ours.

Reform was needed, and still is, but there was a much better way to do it than including a mandate. All this does in increase the government's control over every one of us, and one day in the future we'll wake up and ask how the hell we got to where we are. My biggest problem is knowing full well I'll have to pay more to cover those who cannot or will not, whether you call it a tax or something else and regardless of where/how it is applied. One way or another, this will increase my out of pocket expenses. I'm already paying for those who can't, now I'll pay more in some "indirect" taxes, and I'm forced to. I have health insurance by choice so "having" isn't the issue for me, its being forced to cover others - again.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

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Dread Pirate Roberts

#15 Jun 28, 2012
Silk_the_Absent1 wrote:
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You do know that this program was modeled after Romney's program in Massachusetts, right?
To me that doesn't matter. Romney vs Obama. Dumber vs. Dumber...except for a few incidental differences there really is no difference. We've arrived at socialism. Welcome to the U.S.S.A.

Where Congress can "tax" you on something you don't want to buy, where churches must stay silent and in there place or else, and where abortions are paid for by taxpayers against our freedom of conscience...

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

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Dread Pirate Roberts

#16 Jun 28, 2012
dpb wrote:
Whine on you losing obstructionists -- BUT, you need to remember your rich-moron candidate was the initiator of this Law when he was Gov.-- LMAO Another win for equality and freedom brought to you by our Pres.-- soon to be re-elected! LMAO some more -- What a great day for the U.S.-- VIVA OBAMA and the Supreme Court!
Your definition of equality is lacking. Socialism. Own it. You support it.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

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Dread Pirate Roberts

#17 Jun 28, 2012
Donna wrote:
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Because people break the law and do not by insurance, your premium would be much higher without the law.
You really believe that don't you?

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

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Dread Pirate Roberts

#18 Jun 28, 2012
Silk_the_Absent1 wrote:
I am neither a freeloader, nor a member of any "entitlement crowd." I am a hard working cancer survivor, who works with those even less fortunate, who is sick of being denied the ability to BUY coverage because of the fact that I had (and beat) a serious illness.
My fiancee, who is a pre-medical student and will be a trauma surgeon, and is a caregiver for disabled seniors, could not BUY coverage because she has an inherited blood condition, Thalassemia.
Broad generalizations help none.
But there ARE illegal freeloaders that WON'T be paying into the system and will have their insurance paid for by YOU. Hey but that's socialism. The police state of the U.S. Shhh...though...the KGB is just around the corner...maybe a zampolit?

“US Navy”

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#19 Jun 28, 2012
Knightmare wrote:
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To me that doesn't matter. Romney vs Obama. Dumber vs. Dumber...except for a few incidental differences there really is no difference. We've arrived at socialism. Welcome to the U.S.S.A.
Where Congress can "tax" you on something you don't want to buy, where churches must stay silent and in there place or else, and where abortions are paid for by taxpayers against our freedom of conscience...
There are some things we should be taxed on, and some we should not. Obamacare falls into the latter category for a myriad of reasons.
dpb

Lamar, CO

#20 Jun 28, 2012
It is interesting to note the Supreme Court of both the U.S. and N.M. are having to protect our Constitutions from the unlawful right-wing attacks of both our POS Gov. and the extremists (right-wing) in D.C. Guess they can't read and interpret the LAW; LMAO still!

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