'Nudist' parents on child abuse charges

'Nudist' parents on child abuse charges

There are 22 comments on the AdelaideNow... story from Dec 9, 2010, titled 'Nudist' parents on child abuse charges. In it, AdelaideNow... reports that:

A NEW Mexico husband and wife, who allegedly encouraged their family to embrace nudity and incest, were arrested for sexually molesting their children.

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Since: Dec 08

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#1 Dec 9, 2010
Nudist is one thing, it is a life style many enjoy and if one follows the rules fine but abase such as these two perverts are is a whole different thing.

I feel sorry for the kids being forced to do things to their siblings and hopefully with enough therapy and being placed or adopted by the right family they will learn to forget what their sick parents have done to damage them and live a good productive life.

But child services in this state needs a total revamping.

Hopefully a relative with the love those kids need can take all of them.

Would hate to see them separated as child services might do in placing them with families.
Antinudist

Elk Grove, CA

#2 Apr 24, 2011
My ex-sister-in-law, a local music teacher, is an exhibitionist. Her son, at 10 told me "mommy said I should come intot he bathroom if I have any questions." "Mommy" was bathing in a jacuzzi tub with no shower curtain and insisted that exposing herself to her boys was "natural." She also exposed ehrself to my ex-husband, stripping off her clothes in front of him when he visited his parents house. His father liked to brag that he "took his son (my ex) around at night in San Dimas to peep in windows... the women OBVIOUSLY WANTED IT because he could see in their blinds." My ex's aunt, a bipolar always had porn for my ex laying around from when he was a toddler. As were her various boyfriends, who had access to him. My ex had a problem with peeping in his 20's and still has problems with strippers, porn addiction and prostitutes. The most recent "natural" families I have met are gross, disgusting, inappropriate people who give the surface appearance of decency. Nudists are perverts. Plain and simple. Children naturally show modesty. These people are violating children by forcing them into that "lifestyle." I have never met a self-proclaimed nudist that is not a closet control freak and mentally deranged. No matter how "nice" they may seem, if an adult takes off their clothes around my kids I will beat the living shyte out of them. Nuff said.

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#3 Apr 24, 2011
Antinudist wrote:
My ex-sister-in-law, a local music teacher, is an exhibitionist. Her son, at 10 told me "mommy said I should come intot he bathroom if I have any questions." "Mommy" was bathing in a jacuzzi tub with no shower curtain and insisted that exposing herself to her boys was "natural." She also exposed ehrself to my ex-husband, stripping off her clothes in front of him when he visited his parents house. His father liked to brag that he "took his son (my ex) around at night in San Dimas to peep in windows... the women OBVIOUSLY WANTED IT because he could see in their blinds." My ex's aunt, a bipolar always had porn for my ex laying around from when he was a toddler. As were her various boyfriends, who had access to him. My ex had a problem with peeping in his 20's and still has problems with strippers, porn addiction and prostitutes. The most recent "natural" families I have met are gross, disgusting, inappropriate people who give the surface appearance of decency. Nudists are perverts. Plain and simple. Children naturally show modesty. These people are violating children by forcing them into that "lifestyle." I have never met a self-proclaimed nudist that is not a closet control freak and mentally deranged. No matter how "nice" they may seem, if an adult takes off their clothes around my kids I will beat the living shyte out of them. Nuff said.
There is a word for you, PRUDE.

What is it about your own body you're ashamed of to have such a hateful attitude?

I suppose you change in the closet with door closed so wife can't see you either.

I can just see you in a few years when one of your kids says, Dad, I am gay or lesbian.

That should give you a heart attack. In fact if you have one now your kids will grow up more normal without you around.

PRUDE
Antinudist

Elk Grove, CA

#4 Apr 24, 2011
@bluntly spoken

Sounds more like you are another closet homosexual. No one needs to be shaking their genitals in the faces of children. The mere fact taht children KNOW they need boundaries proves this. It is only pedophiles and perverts who get off on trying to convince children that this sort of exposure is "natural." It is not. My kids are actually very healthy and have great respect for boundaries. So while your kids are humping each other and whoring themselves around, mine will be in healthy marriages.

If your kids manage not to end up with herpes and every other manner of sexually transmitted disease, most likely propagated from you fondling them, or one of the deviant "nudists" that you insist are "uncle freddy" or "auntie em" sticking something where it doesn't belong, then someday, once they stop cutting and injecting drugs, maybe, just maybe, they will find true love.

I'd much rather be called a prude than think like you!
Antinudist

Elk Grove, CA

#5 Apr 24, 2011
I'm also quite sure that anyone who would not allow you unsupervised, nude access to their minor children would be considered just as "prudish" as me by you. I am happy to say I will gladly wear that title. And my kids will never ever be available to you and your ilk. Have a nice day!

Since: Dec 08

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#6 Apr 24, 2011
Antinudist wrote:
@bluntly spoken
Sounds more like you are another closet homosexual. No one needs to be shaking their genitals in the faces of children. The mere fact taht children KNOW they need boundaries proves this. It is only pedophiles and perverts who get off on trying to convince children that this sort of exposure is "natural." It is not. My kids are actually very healthy and have great respect for boundaries. So while your kids are humping each other and whoring themselves around, mine will be in healthy marriages.
If your kids manage not to end up with herpes and every other manner of sexually transmitted disease, most likely propagated from you fondling them, or one of the deviant "nudists" that you insist are "uncle freddy" or "auntie em" sticking something where it doesn't belong, then someday, once they stop cutting and injecting drugs, maybe, just maybe, they will find true love.
I'd much rather be called a prude than think like you!
You are one mentally ill jerk since I cannot use the word I want here.

First to set you straight,(right you are a closest homosexual, not me) my kids turned out perfect, much better than yours if you want to get into it that way.

Second this entire forum is not about ME, I did not walk around naked in front of my kids, my wife and I taught them about what is and is not to be touched by others as kids.

I enjoy the sun on my body in my backyard, does that make one a nudist as you see it, NO but you probably would not agree.

As for making remarks that my kids have every social disease possible from sex, I would wager a bit they have NONE but there is one that warps a persons mind, you appear to have it, it is called Syphilis, you do have all the makings of that illness on how you speak here.

I would suggest you get to your doctor asap and hope it is not so far gone it kills you to soon or your kids will know the truth about you.

Oh wait, kids being as smart as they are today most likely already know their dad has sex with other man.

So sorry for your wife if she does not know that, please wear protection for her sake.

Any more stupid remarks keep the family out of it.

Oh one thing, are your kids in school yet? if so better check their hair, they could catch mites.

Yes mine are all finished with college, well not completely true, one is back studying for his PhD.

Keep the lights off when you dress or undress, you might give your wife a heart attack.

Since: Dec 08

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#7 Apr 24, 2011
Antinudist wrote:
I'm also quite sure that anyone who would not allow you unsupervised, nude access to their minor children would be considered just as "prudish" as me by you. I am happy to say I will gladly wear that title. And my kids will never ever be available to you and your ilk. Have a nice day!
Trust me I am not into kids, I have a wonderful wife, however rumor has it you are a pedophile which means your kids can be removed from your home.

The sooner the better too.
Your An Idiot

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Apr 25, 2011
Antinudist wrote:
My ex-sister-in-law, a local music teacher, is an exhibitionist. Her son, at 10 told me "mommy said I should come intot he bathroom if I have any questions." "Mommy" was bathing in a jacuzzi tub with no shower curtain and insisted that exposing herself to her boys was "natural." She also exposed ehrself to my ex-husband, stripping off her clothes in front of him when he visited his parents house. His father liked to brag that he "took his son (my ex) around at night in San Dimas to peep in windows... the women OBVIOUSLY WANTED IT because he could see in their blinds." My ex's aunt, a bipolar always had porn for my ex laying around from when he was a toddler. As were her various boyfriends, who had access to him. My ex had a problem with peeping in his 20's and still has problems with strippers, porn addiction and prostitutes. The most recent "natural" families I have met are gross, disgusting, inappropriate people who give the surface appearance of decency. Nudists are perverts. Plain and simple. Children naturally show modesty. These people are violating children by forcing them into that "lifestyle." I have never met a self-proclaimed nudist that is not a closet control freak and mentally deranged. No matter how "nice" they may seem, if an adult takes off their clothes around my kids I will beat the living shyte out of them. Nuff said.
Wow, with all that experience, you should look at the common denominator in all of this: YOU. You either made that all up (weeiiirrd!) or you are some sort of pervert magnet.
kart

Islamabad, Pakistan

#9 Jul 16, 2011
wow, all in the name of 'free society'. Blaming anti nudist as pervert when all he says is to respect others boundaries. Now that's tolerance.
wally200

Netherlands

#10 Jul 28, 2011
I Read these comments with interest. No matter what, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Reading the comments from anti nudist and bluntly spoken, they seem to get at each others throats with their arguments. Calling each other names like; pervert/pedophile/homosexual etc is over the top.

Anti nudist does seem to know what he is talking about and I do agree with some areas of his remarks.
My view on this subject, is to try and find a way in how many 'naturists/nudists' actually exist in this world?
I would say about, 20% out of 100%.
Some people like to sunbathe or 'skinny dip'. However, looking around; a strong vast majority of the human race would actually keep themselves modestly covered up.
So I can actually see where anti nudist is coming from.
Regarding children, there ARE concerns that they are exposed to adult nudity. Though yes children are DEFINITELY naturally modest by the age of 5 or 6.
Parents should be wary of this and NOT expose their children to nudity. Children should be children and let them decide when they reach the age of majority 18/21. If I had children, I wouldn't consider taking them to nudist colonies - due to perverts! And I feel that it isn't right. Nudity should be adult oriented.

Since: Dec 08

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#11 Jul 29, 2011
wally200 wrote:
I Read these comments with interest. No matter what, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Reading the comments from anti nudist and bluntly spoken, they seem to get at each others throats with their arguments. Calling each other names like; pervert/pedophile/homosexual etc is over the top.
Anti nudist does seem to know what he is talking about and I do agree with some areas of his remarks.
My view on this subject, is to try and find a way in how many 'naturists/nudists' actually exist in this world?
I would say about, 20% out of 100%.
Some people like to sunbathe or 'skinny dip'. However, looking around; a strong vast majority of the human race would actually keep themselves modestly covered up.
So I can actually see where anti nudist is coming from.
Regarding children, there ARE concerns that they are exposed to adult nudity. Though yes children are DEFINITELY naturally modest by the age of 5 or 6.
Parents should be wary of this and NOT expose their children to nudity. Children should be children and let them decide when they reach the age of majority 18/21. If I had children, I wouldn't consider taking them to nudist colonies - due to perverts! And I feel that it isn't right. Nudity should be adult oriented.
If one calls me or accuses me of something I am not I will reply, most likely in the same manner.

As for nudist, we all come into this world nude, I see nothing wrong with a naked body other than some mostly naked ones at Wal-Mart with their pants or other little bits of clothing showing off their cracks or blubber.

I used to enjoy tanning in the nude where I used to live, can't do that here as to many two story homes looking into our yard.

Since: May 10

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#12 Jul 29, 2011
Bluntly Spoken wrote:
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If one calls me or accuses me of something I am not I will reply, most likely in the same manner.
As for nudist, we all come into this world nude, I see nothing wrong with a naked body other than some mostly naked ones at Wal-Mart with their pants or other little bits of clothing showing off their cracks or blubber.
I used to enjoy tanning in the nude where I used to live, can't do that here as to many two story homes looking into our yard.
Morning, Bluntly Spoken. You're in fine form this morning, old timer.

But, could you give us a heads up before splaying yourself naked in the back yard, so we can stay on the East side? Some of us have weak hearts, you know?

Since: Dec 08

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#13 Jul 29, 2011
Caltrop wrote:
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Morning, Bluntly Spoken. You're in fine form this morning, old timer.
But, could you give us a heads up before splaying yourself naked in the back yard, so we can stay on the East side? Some of us have weak hearts, you know?
Listen hear mister, if you keep your head down you won't have to look n see things that don't concern you.

But I have one neighbor who has a lovely 20 something daughter, need I say more. LOL

Besides as you well know I said I can't do such things here due to all those two story homes peeking into our yard.

Darn builder would have to do such a thing after we bought ours, most were empty lots when we moved in.

And how are you this wonderful warm morning?

Since: May 10

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#14 Jul 29, 2011
Bluntly Spoken wrote:
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Listen hear mister, if you keep your head down you won't have to look n see things that don't concern you.
But I have one neighbor who has a lovely 20 something daughter, need I say more. LOL
Besides as you well know I said I can't do such things here due to all those two story homes peeking into our yard.
Darn builder would have to do such a thing after we bought ours, most were empty lots when we moved in.
And how are you this wonderful warm morning?
Doing real good, thank you. I was actually worried about you laying out there in the back yard naked. I heard there was a sausage maker from down in the Valley who was short of meat and cruised the West Side. Hell, that johnson of yours would give him a months supply.
Jimmy

Chicago, IL

#15 Aug 26, 2011
A year ago afamil moved into the area with a son my age.
He was a Scout and joined the Troop were dad is the Scout Master. Going camping and swimming we got to see each other naked. On one of our first overnights he confided that his family were nudists and that he would like to sleep that way in our tent if I didn't object. I told him that I often slept that way at home and that it was O.K. with me. Our Troop of ten went skinny- dipping with my dad.
We would sleep over at each other's house. I "forgot" to tell mom that Jack's family were nudists. One Friday night we got a little noisy and when we didn't quiet down, mom came in. She turned off the play station and told us to go to bed. We were both naked. Mom was not shocked. When I asked if our nudity bothered her, she said that she sees dad every night and that she grew up on a farm with 5 brothers both younger and older who slept nude.
This spring my friend's parents asked mine if I could spend 2 weeks with them at their summer home. They had not asked me because yhey wanted to see what mom would think of me going to a nudist camp
My parents had no objections, I was allowed to go. Dad slipped me a box of rubbers to have fun. He then floored me by saying that I wouldn't need them if I continued to fool around with Jack alone.
A week before we were to leave, I was looking for my Speedos because Jack and I were going swimming in our back yard pool. Mom had them all in the wash and suggested that we just go nude. Remember I not only saw both of you naked, but you both had erections. We both gave mom a hug and she slapped our bre butts. Go out and enjoy yourselves. A half hour later she came out with cokes and sandwiches and joined us. She was wearing a bikini and we both popped boners. She just smiled.
When we returned from the nudist camp, my parents asked how I would feel if we joined a camp. Both families are going to the camp for the week before Labor Day.
I am certain that there is no incest and that we were nevered forced into any thing. The fact that Jack and I have gay sex has nothing to do with our nudity. We would have sucked each other off with out being nudists. Dad knows, but as far as I know he has not told anyone.
ZIAmouth585

Albuquerque, NM

#16 Aug 26, 2011
Ever been to Germany in the summer. Its very common for Germans to head to their local park on warm sunny days and strip down to sun bath in the nude. Same goes for most beaches be it the ocean or lakes. Whole families, including the grandparents, all out enjoying the great outdoors butt-naked.

Nudity is widespread in Europe even in countries like Italy that post modesty police outside religious sites to ensure no skin is exposed by those seeking to enter. Italian TV thinks nothing of showing breasts and porn sections can be found in some major stores.

Americans would assume then that Europeans are all pedophiles and/or perverts and that children aren't safe. You would be wrong. Its safer there than it is here for adults and kids.

Given we are on the subject I saw not long ago that the state with the highest level of on-line/cable porn usage was Utah. Go figure - all the repression by the Mormons who basically control the state hasn't hurt its popularity.

Since: Dec 08

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#17 Aug 30, 2011
Nothing wrong with being nude, after all that is how you entered this world.

“Down in the Bayou”

Since: Apr 08

Vancleave Mississippi

#18 Aug 30, 2011
lets get nekkid!!!

skinny dipping is a blast, and folks who want to do that sort of thing should go for it..enjoy...just keep the kiddos out of it..

Since: Dec 08

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#19 Aug 30, 2011
Daniel in Hobbs wrote:
lets get nekkid!!!
skinny dipping is a blast, and folks who want to do that sort of thing should go for it..enjoy...just keep the kiddos out of it..
Sure is buddy, can remember doing that as a kid all the time but back in those days most people were more open to such things.

Just don't let a gator bite off anything you want to use again in the swamps back there. LOL

“Down in the Bayou”

Since: Apr 08

Vancleave Mississippi

#20 Aug 30, 2011
Bluntly Spoken wrote:
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Sure is buddy, can remember doing that as a kid all the time but back in those days most people were more open to such things.
Just don't let a gator bite off anything you want to use again in the swamps back there. LOL
no kiddin, gators, and snapping turtles...not to even mention alligator Gar, and water moccasins...

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