Is Obama's "Class Warfare" the Marxist Battle Cry?

Created by edmundo on Sep 19, 2011

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Yes

It is the Epitome of Envy

It is the Last Squeal of a Stuck Pig Politco

It is Uncharitable and Criminal

It Incites Hatred and Violence

It is the Triumph of Sloth over Industriousness

It Makes the Malcontents Clutch at Other's Throats

It Provides Our Money for His Cronies

It Deeply Honors Mao, Marx, Lenin, Che

All of the Above

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north

Albuquerque, NM

#1 Sep 19, 2011
It's like the lonely cry of the loon.

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque

#2 Sep 19, 2011
The class war was fought between 1981 and 2010, and the rich won. Also calling themselves winners are a large number of middle-class conservatives who haven't figured out yet just how much they've screwed their kids and grandkids.

And mine, too.

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque, NM

#3 Sep 19, 2011
walterfm wrote:
The class war was fought between 1981 and 2010, and the rich won. Also calling themselves winners are a large number of middle-class conservatives who haven't figured out yet just how much they've screwed their kids and grandkids.
And mine, too.
How can you be so ignorant about the world around you and what is happening to this country under the Thief in Chief?
Mike8

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Sep 19, 2011
Remember 9-11 wrote:
<quoted text>How can you be so ignorant about the world around you and what is happening to this country under the Thief in Chief?
I don't care either as long as the welfare checks keep coming and the EBT card is filled every month. You keep working, I'll keep spending - sucker!

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque

#5 Sep 19, 2011
Remember 9-11 wrote:
<quoted text>How can you be so ignorant about the world around you and what is happening to this country under the Thief in Chief?
Your question assumes facts not in evidence.

Try again if you want, and can.

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque

#6 Sep 19, 2011
Mike8 wrote:
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I don't care either as long as the welfare checks keep coming and the EBT card is filled every month. You keep working, I'll keep spending - sucker!
Here's the deal: All that "welfare" money is good for the economy. That's right, it creates economic activity. Retained wealth does not. This is why the economy is stagnant (like it was in the 1930s). The wealthy are (and were) sitting on their money.

Poor people spend a dollar as soon as they get it. It moves through the economy with far more velocity. This is what GDP is all about. A billion dollars tied up in yachts does nothing for the economy. A billion dollars in the hands of people buying consumer goods is turning over constantly, resulting in economic activity.

This is why government spending during times like these is so important. The GOP has successfully blocked government spending.... partly because it's against their religion, and partly because if the economy still sucks next year they'll have a fighting chance of defeating Mr. Obama.

This is more than theory... it was demonstrated TWICE in the 1930s. Yes, that was a long time ago and most people don't remember it. But people who read history know that it was true then and is true today.

“Why is Warren Buffett Democrat”

Since: Jul 09

Mindanao, Philippines

#7 Sep 20, 2011
When you want to have a fair poll you should have an option that supports Obama as well instead of 10 idiotic options that condemn him.
What many Americans do not understand is that the problem is deeply rooted in our inability to compete in the world market due to our labor costs being too high (health care costs, etc.). The dilemma we are in is partly due to the housing bubble that began during the Bush Administration when mortgages were given freely at 130% of market value. Obama inherited a nightmare and any president who took office would have had a hellish time trying to stop the leak of this sinking ship. Yes wasteful cuts must be cut but revenues must also be raised (taxes)...even Warren Buffet has suggested taxing the richest in this country at a higher rate to raise revenes. But the GOP and Tea Party has brain washed the American public into thinking that ONLY slashing costs will do the trick...It is not going to do the trick and I, for one, feel that gold has gone from $300 to $1800 an ounce for a good reason...It is a way of saying that the world (not just America) currencies are not worth the paper they are printed on.

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Sep 20, 2011
walterfm wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's the deal: All that "welfare" money is good for the economy. That's right, it creates economic activity. Retained wealth does not. This is why the economy is stagnant (like it was in the 1930s). The wealthy are (and were) sitting on their money.
Poor people spend a dollar as soon as they get it. It moves through the economy with far more velocity. This is what GDP is all about. A billion dollars tied up in yachts does nothing for the economy. A billion dollars in the hands of people buying consumer goods is turning over constantly, resulting in economic activity.
This is why government spending during times like these is so important. The GOP has successfully blocked government spending.... partly because it's against their religion, and partly because if the economy still sucks next year they'll have a fighting chance of defeating Mr. Obama.
This is more than theory... it was demonstrated TWICE in the 1930s. Yes, that was a long time ago and most people don't remember it. But people who read history know that it was true then and is true today.
If you want to keep money moving around, you go borrow it, don't ask the taxpayers to borrow it. Obama is, as usual, dead wrong.

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Sep 20, 2011
GodCares wrote:
When you want to have a fair poll you should have an option that supports Obama as well instead of 10 idiotic options that condemn him.
What many Americans do not understand is that the problem is deeply rooted in our inability to compete in the world market due to our labor costs being too high (health care costs, etc.). The dilemma we are in is partly due to the housing bubble that began during the Bush Administration when mortgages were given freely at 130% of market value. Obama inherited a nightmare and any president who took office would have had a hellish time trying to stop the leak of this sinking ship. Yes wasteful cuts must be cut but revenues must also be raised (taxes)...even Warren Buffet has suggested taxing the richest in this country at a higher rate to raise revenes. But the GOP and Tea Party has brain washed the American public into thinking that ONLY slashing costs will do the trick...It is not going to do the trick and I, for one, feel that gold has gone from $300 to $1800 an ounce for a good reason...It is a way of saying that the world (not just America) currencies are not worth the paper they are printed on.
The reason gold is so much higher is because the dollar is worth so much less!

“Why is Warren Buffett Democrat”

Since: Jul 09

Mindanao, Philippines

#10 Sep 20, 2011
Remember 9-11 wrote:
<quoted text>The reason gold is so much higher is because the dollar is worth so much less!
You are incorrect. Look at the price of gold against every currency in the world including the strongest currency the Swiss Franc and you will see that gold has gone up 400 to 500 percent against all currencies.

“Why is Warren Buffett Democrat”

Since: Jul 09

Mindanao, Philippines

#11 Sep 20, 2011
Remember 9-11 wrote:
<quoted text>If you want to keep money moving around, you go borrow it, don't ask the taxpayers to borrow it. Obama is, as usual, dead wrong.
Here is a little enlightenment for you just over the past five years

http://www.galmarley.com/Chart_pages/currency...

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Sep 20, 2011
GodCares wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is a little enlightenment for you just over the past five years
http://www.galmarley.com/Chart_pages/currency...
So you are saying the other currencies are not worth less? Check out the situation in Europe.

“Down in the Bayou”

Since: Apr 08

Vancleave Mississippi

#13 Sep 20, 2011
just do as FOX news tells you to do....rich people are your friends, they create all the jobs,(they haven't yet, but they will, right?..maybe?)....corporation s have your best interests at heart, healthcare for all is bad bad bad...Israel is our friend (never mind all the Americans they killed)...etc etc etc...

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Sep 20, 2011
GodCares wrote:
<quoted text>
You are incorrect. Look at the price of gold against every currency in the world including the strongest currency the Swiss Franc and you will see that gold has gone up 400 to 500 percent against all currencies.
That is what I said! It does not matter what currency, they all are worth less now. See your previous post - you said they were not worth the paper they were printed on.
fscott

Albuquerque, NM

#15 Sep 20, 2011
Obama has done more to destroy our country in three years than the communist party did in fifty years. And of course, he smiled while he did it.

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque

#16 Sep 20, 2011
Remember 9-11 wrote:
<quoted text>If you want to keep money moving around, you go borrow it, don't ask the taxpayers to borrow it. Obama is, as usual, dead wrong.
WTF are you talking about? We're borrowing money so we can pay for wars (first time we've ever done that without raising taxes) so the wealthy can continue to profit from the flow of oil and the manufacture of weapons (during WW2 profiteering was considered treason) while the middle class and the poor send their kids off to die (during WW2 the rich got drafted). And to pay for a failed experiment sold to us by the rich (who may have known all along it wouldn't work) called "cut our taxes and there will be more jobs".

They didn't tell us those jobs would be in China.

It's patriotic to have shared sacrifice in a time of war. But the rich have not sacrificed in this time of war. They've profited, and people like you continue to defend and support them... and THEN have the temerity to question the patriotism of those of us who HAVE sacrificed, the middle class? And argue that it's Obama's fault? And the fault of the poor and the Democrats?

No modern civilization has ever fought and won a war while cutting taxes. If we manage to do that, it will be because our credit was good enough for China and Saudi Arabia AND our own wealthiest citizens to lend the nation money. Doesn't that sound bizarre to you? Why didn't we raise taxes to pay for those wars instead of borrowing the money?

You and your kids and grandkids (and mine, thank you very much) are now indebted as never before. NEVER BEFORE. And you're not mad at the rich for getting you into this mess?

Clearly, you've been fed a load of bull. My advice is to stop swallowing and start tasting.

“Why is Warren Buffett Democrat”

Since: Jul 09

Mindanao, Philippines

#17 Sep 20, 2011
Remember 9-11 wrote:
<quoted text>So you are saying the other currencies are not worth less? Check out the situation in Europe.
That's not what I am saying. I am saying that gold has gone up against ALL currencies in the past eight years by 400 to 500 percent. In the case of the Swiss Franc gold has gone up about 400 percent...in the case of the US dollar, the Russian Ruble and the Indian Rupee it has gone up a little over 500 percent. The Euro, has also had a 400 percent surge in gold against it's currency.

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque, NM

#18 Sep 20, 2011
walterfm wrote:
<quoted text>
WTF are you talking about? We're borrowing money so we can pay for wars (first time we've ever done that without raising taxes) so the wealthy can continue to profit from the flow of oil and the manufacture of weapons (during WW2 profiteering was considered treason) while the middle class and the poor send their kids off to die (during WW2 the rich got drafted). And to pay for a failed experiment sold to us by the rich (who may have known all along it wouldn't work) called "cut our taxes and there will be more jobs".
They didn't tell us those jobs would be in China.
It's patriotic to have shared sacrifice in a time of war. But the rich have not sacrificed in this time of war. They've profited, and people like you continue to defend and support them... and THEN have the temerity to question the patriotism of those of us who HAVE sacrificed, the middle class? And argue that it's Obama's fault? And the fault of the poor and the Democrats?
No modern civilization has ever fought and won a war while cutting taxes. If we manage to do that, it will be because our credit was good enough for China and Saudi Arabia AND our own wealthiest citizens to lend the nation money. Doesn't that sound bizarre to you? Why didn't we raise taxes to pay for those wars instead of borrowing the money?
You and your kids and grandkids (and mine, thank you very much) are now indebted as never before. NEVER BEFORE. And you're not mad at the rich for getting you into this mess?
Clearly, you've been fed a load of bull. My advice is to stop swallowing and start tasting.
Obama's "experiment" has been a disaster. If you want to pay more taxes, no one, not even the IRS, is stopping you. Speaking of sending jobs to China, look at what Obama's jobs guy, Imelt has done - shipped a whole division of GE to China. Yes, I would STRONGLY argue the problems with today's economy is mismanagement by Obama and the Democrats. No wonder their mascot is a Jackass. Obama and the Democrats have increased the debt more in two and a half years than any other president, so do NOT tell me that the Republicans are responsible while the Democrats controlled both houses. Whining Democrats are pain in the a$$ and their pathetic LIES do nothing to help the matter. Wise up to the propaganda you are slopping up.

“Why is Warren Buffett Democrat”

Since: Jul 09

Mindanao, Philippines

#19 Sep 20, 2011
walterfm wrote:
<quoted text>
WTF are you talking about? We're borrowing money so we can pay for wars (first time we've ever done that without raising taxes) so the wealthy can continue to profit from the flow of oil and the manufacture of weapons (during WW2 profiteering was considered treason) while the middle class and the poor send their kids off to die (during WW2 the rich got drafted). And to pay for a failed experiment sold to us by the rich (who may have known all along it wouldn't work) called "cut our taxes and there will be more jobs".
They didn't tell us those jobs would be in China.
It's patriotic to have shared sacrifice in a time of war. But the rich have not sacrificed in this time of war. They've profited, and people like you continue to defend and support them... and THEN have the temerity to question the patriotism of those of us who HAVE sacrificed, the middle class? And argue that it's Obama's fault? And the fault of the poor and the Democrats?
No modern civilization has ever fought and won a war while cutting taxes. If we manage to do that, it will be because our credit was good enough for China and Saudi Arabia AND our own wealthiest citizens to lend the nation money. Doesn't that sound bizarre to you? Why didn't we raise taxes to pay for those wars instead of borrowing the money?
You and your kids and grandkids (and mine, thank you very much) are now indebted as never before. NEVER BEFORE. And you're not mad at the rich for getting you into this mess?
Clearly, you've been fed a load of bull. My advice is to stop swallowing and start tasting.
The propaganda from the Right has been ingested since Reagan's "trickle down" effect. Americans should start to listen to Warren Buffet who has become one of the wealthiest men in the world who is now calling for all Americans to help get us out of this predicament, not just those on Social Security and Medicare.

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque

#20 Sep 20, 2011
Remember 9-11 wrote:
<quoted text>Obama's "experiment" has been a disaster. If you want to pay more taxes, no one, not even the IRS, is stopping you. Speaking of sending jobs to China, look at what Obama's jobs guy, Imelt has done - shipped a whole division of GE to China. Yes, I would STRONGLY argue the problems with today's economy is mismanagement by Obama and the Democrats. No wonder their mascot is a Jackass. Obama and the Democrats have increased the debt more in two and a half years than any other president, so do NOT tell me that the Republicans are responsible while the Democrats controlled both houses. Whining Democrats are pain in the a$$ and their pathetic LIES do nothing to help the matter. Wise up to the propaganda you are slopping up.
You can argue all you want, but Bush took us from a surplus to a horrible deficit. Your numbers are whack..... the idea that the Dems have been in control is nonsense....they only had the 60 votes necessary in the Senate for a short period of time, if at all. And don't forget that there are a number of Democrats-In-Name-Only....who vote like Republicans because they live in the South where only a Republican (or Dem acting like one) could get elected since Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Johnson made them let black people use the same rest rooms, lunch counters, and drinking fountains.

And don't even get me started on the Republican Supreme Court.

And you know what? It's even worse than you imagine. The debt is SO big, even if we cut spending on social programs to zero, it would still take YEARS to pay back the rich people all the money we've borrowed from them! Borrowed from them to....yes, that's right.... pay for their tax cuts!

The real cost of running the country (most of which goes to paying for our wars, programs like NASA, the Veterans Administration, and interest on the national debt) REQUIRES more revenue than we're taking in. Only higher taxes on the rich will solve that, because the middle class can't afford to pay any more and the poor don't have any money to pay.

You're living in fantasyland if you think there's any way out of this without raising taxes on the rich. And the whole "class warfare" line is hilarious.... it's the new battle cry of the right, not the left! And nobody's buying it, either.

The class war ended years ago. The rich won, due to:

1. Major tax cuts for high-income Americans, much larger as a percentage of income than for the middle class.

2. Decline in real minimum wage.

3. Union-busting, aided and abetted by federal policy.

4. Financial deregulation, which has fed inequality because very high incomes come disproportionately from that sector.

And now from you and your sycophant buddies we hear shrieks of outrage over the prospect of even a slight reversal of these trends.

You're not serious. You may think you are, but your Foxspeak is utter nonsense.

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