Bicyclist killed in hit-and-run accident

Bicyclist killed in hit-and-run accident

There are 54 comments on the KOB.com Eyewitness News 4 - New Mexico story from Mar 4, 2008, titled Bicyclist killed in hit-and-run accident. In it, KOB.com Eyewitness News 4 - New Mexico reports that:

The driver in a hit-and-run accident that killed an Albuquerque bicyclist Monday evening later returned to the scene and turned himself into police.

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EddietheP

Brookhaven, MS

#1 Mar 4, 2008
Massive force and impact, perp flees and later returns? Hmmmmmmmm....what did he perhaps remove from the vehicle????

Fleeing is a concious act...no deals, no laxity...it is a crime!
Ivan Sanchez

AOL

#2 Mar 4, 2008
Bicyclists are hazardous on the roads. 90% of them do not observe traffic regulations!
AnotherAngryCycl ist

Albuquerque, NM

#3 Mar 4, 2008
What do we have to do to control our motorists in this city? For those of you who aren't cyclists, where this man was killed was in the intersection of a major bike/pedestrian path that is heavily used and considered about as safe as it gets and didn't need to be a cyclist; it could have been just another pedestrian taking an evening walk. It could have been your friend, your father, or your son.
AnotherAngryCycl ist

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Mar 4, 2008
Hey Ivan,
90% of you don't observe traffic regulations either yet that doesn't stop you from crying when one of your family members is killed by another motorist. Explain exactly how a bicyclist is hazardous to you in your 3000lb vehicle who is driving like an a-hole because you should have left the house 5 minutes earlier to avoid being late for work.
Doug Young

Tarkio, MO

#5 Mar 4, 2008
Sad, truely sad...Slow Down Albuquerque....people's lives depend on it.
Jim E

Mcnary, AZ

#6 Mar 4, 2008
As a cyclist and a motorist I see many cyclist out there not obeying any traffic laws, so cyclist will not get much sympathy here on a message board if they are hit by a car. As a cyclist I do my best to stay off the roads, even tho as a cyclist I have the right away why take a chance with my life against a 3000lb motorist on the phone or texting or shoving a burger down there throat, not worth the risk, so I hop on my bike and hit the Bosque trail, thong flip flops and pink bunny ears lol
mic mackie

Albuquerque, NM

#7 Mar 4, 2008
AnotherAngryCyclist wrote:
Hey Ivan,
90% of you don't observe traffic regulations either yet that doesn't stop you from crying when one of your family members is killed by another motorist. Explain exactly how a bicyclist is hazardous to you in your 3000lb vehicle who is driving like an a-hole because you should have left the house 5 minutes earlier to avoid being late for work.
SUV vs. bike, i wouldn't argue too much!
Confused

Gulfport, MS

#8 Mar 4, 2008
Ivan Sanchez wrote:
Bicyclists are hazardous on the roads. 90% of them do not observe traffic regulations!
OK, maybe 90% of the ones you've observed don't obey the rules of the road, but are you certain you can back that stat up or did you pull it out of your rectum? In any event, a careless pedestrian or cyclist is far more likely to be killed than to kill, so it behooves them to act like prey rather than predator.

I drive, run and bicycle the roads around here. Most people observe the law, yield the ROW when they're supposed to and don't present a hazard to others. There are a few who don't pay attention and they present a hazard to all. I don't know it to be fact, but I'll bet those who aren't paying attention are also our light runners, aggressive drivers, driving-while-texters, etc. Some people just don't give a damn about others and it shows in how they act.

Here's betting that the hit-and-run driver realized they were had, that they were only making things worse for themselves and then they returned to the scene.
Bikemanster

Huntsville, AL

#9 Mar 4, 2008
Well, we have crossed that bridge many times on the way to UNM and other destinations. A car speeding can create a false perception of time and distance for the bicycle trying to safely cross the street. The force of the impact is evidence that excessive speed on the part of the car caused the accident and then made the injury worse than a lawful speed would have. The danger posed by cars, speeding or not, caused fear that keeps some of us in our cars and off our bikes. We need segregation from cars for bicycles including guard rail, overpasses, bridges and retractable vehicle barriers at controlled intersections to physically protect pedestrians and bicyclists.
CornDog

Sheffield, AL

#10 Mar 4, 2008
AnotherAngryCyclist wrote:
Explain exactly how a bicyclist is hazardous to you in your 3000lb vehicle who is driving like an a-hole because you should have left the house 5 minutes earlier to avoid being late for work.
First, you can be killed on a bike just as easily by a Smart car or motorcycle vs an SUV so your reference to 30000lbs is mute.

Second, where do you (any cyclist) get off coming up on my right side when I am stopped well ahead of you at a red light and wanting to make a right turn? Your bike lane merges into mine, my signal is on, I've made a full stop, looked and didn't see you. Why didn't I see you? Because you decided to share my lane with me and run the light, so as I turn I make you onto a tortilla. I've not squashed anyone yet but have had this occur 4 times and was close to squashing twice.

My point is that even if you were right, which in this case you were not, you were dead. Was it worth it? Maybe I should sue your estate for the mental anguish you caused me when I squashed you.

I think another made an excellent point, a cyclist must act as the prey, not the predator.
AnotherAngryCycl ist

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Mar 4, 2008
Jim E,
We don't know the details; maybe this poor fellow blew through the intersection and cut out in front of a car. Maybe he didn't have a light. Maybe he wasn't wearing a helmet. Does it change the fact that the motorist was likely driving like a maniac? And fled the scene? Or the fact that this same driver could have t-boned you in your car? The fact that you are fortunate enough, as a cyclist, to be able to access the Bosque trail so safely doesn't give you the right to judge other cyclists that don't have it so easy. The rest of us have no choice but to deal with traffic. Unless we all roll over like good little dogs and ride our little bikes on Sundays in flip-flops and bunny ears on the Bosque trail. As a cyclist, you should be more supportive of your cycling community and our rights since you are, as you like to point out, a cyclist.
Not LOL because this is NOT a laughing matter.
johnny

Tuscumbia, AL

#12 Mar 4, 2008
CornDog wrote:
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Because you decided to share my lane with me and run the light, so as I turn I make you onto a tortilla.
is that what they mean by 'doping" in the cycling world?
Do Not Be Ignorant

Albuquerque, NM

#13 Mar 4, 2008
Involuntary manslaughter....period. Until motorists are held accountable for their ignorance (multi-tasking while driving, moronic road rage, speeding, chatting on cell phones,...) this type of problem will continue. Individuals anecdotal experiences with cyclists who disregard traffic regulations resound with hypocrisy. Is it any worse than to disregard these regulations in a vehicle? Certainly the percentage of motorists who disregard traffic regulations has got to be equal or higher, given that the stakes are higher. Don't force others or yourself to live a life of sadness and regret just because you want to get from point A to point B seconds faster.
CAJ
My Point

Roswell, NM

#14 Mar 4, 2008
Bottom line is that all bikers and drivers do not obey all laws all of the time and until everyone does that it is a danger out there. Hell if everyone obeyed all laws all the time then our world would be perfect but as you can see that will never happen. We all take chances every time we leave to go somewhere. Sad but true.
CornDog

Sheffield, AL

#15 Mar 4, 2008
Depends on if the cyclist was taking a hit from his water bottle and swerved in front of the motorist, or hit a rock and did the same. There are sometimes valid reasons why the motorist is not at fault. Neither of us know how or why it happened. The whole point is BEWARE, be careful and be alive. This door swings both ways sir.
Ummmm

Thomasville, NC

#16 Mar 4, 2008
I honestly don't think cyclists or motorists pay too much attention. Cyclists have the right away in most cases and they think because of that they can ride where they please. I have been stuck behind many a cyclist going down a busy street holding up traffic. But I have seen many safe cyclists almost hit by a motorist who is doing anything but paying attention to the road. We all need to look out for each other as a team. This goes for motorcycles too! Don't look over them and don't tailgate! Let's keep our streets safe.
AnotherAngryCycl ist

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Mar 4, 2008
CornDog,
You're absolutely right in every sense. You make excellent points, as always.
1) a cyclist can be killed falling off their bike.
2) the case above is the cyclists fault.
3) was it worth it? No, and my family won't think so either.
And yup, the door swings both ways. And I remember that last time a motorist was killed by a cyclist taking a hit from his bottle. Oh wait, I can't remember because a motorist (or pedestrian for that matter) has NEVER been killed by a cyclist. And you are right again about the whole point; be aware, be careful, and be alive. And if motorists would only follow that advice they wouldn't be the CAUSE of the MAJORITY of cycling deaths. Of course, you also think that humans are incapable of rational intelligent thought, respect, and courtesy for their fellow man and can only behave like animals (we're all predator and prey, remember?).
CornDog

Sheffield, AL

#19 Mar 4, 2008
AnotherAngryCyclist wrote:
Of course, you also think that humans are incapable of rational intelligent thought, respect, and courtesy for their fellow man and can only behave like animals (we're all predator and prey, remember?).
Even moreso when I look at the crime stats here, the judges who break the law and get a wrist slap, the policemen who commit crimes but are not punished, the lawyers who don't know nor care what justice is. The need for a red light camera system (arguably), the recent Marine shooting incident and the sentence (especially the $500 part), the law(?) re: sex offenders in libraries. Food, like at Arby's recently, mystery meat at APS, cooties floating in our bottled water, trains, statues, green this and that. When you put them all together its does appear that we as a society could care less about the plight of our fellow man.

As for cyclists, look once, twice, three times - all of us!
Missy

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Mar 4, 2008
Good thought "EddietheP" what.... or who..... also, was the returning driver the same one that hit the cyclist or a scapegoat? We need "Quincy" to figure this out.
EddietheP wrote:
Massive force and impact, perp flees and later returns? Hmmmmmmmm....what did he perhaps remove from the vehicle????
Fleeing is a concious act...no deals, no laxity...it is a crime!
Steel Coffin

Seattle, WA

#21 Mar 4, 2008
Ivan Sanchez wrote:
Bicyclists are hazardous on the roads. 90% of them do not observe traffic regulations!
Hey idiot. This rider was on a bike path. Open your eyes and get out of your weapon. You might lose soem weight you fat lazy American

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