11 Most Compelling 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

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RoboCop

Albuquerque, NM

#1 Sep 27, 2012
911 was an inside job

Austin, TX

#2 Sep 27, 2012
So the official 9/11 conspiracy theory is no longer compelling? It isn't included on the list, for some reason.

It would be great if Americans could indeed see through the deception.

Unfortunately, I'm still encountering quite a bit of resistance when I bring up evidence for an alternative to the official narrative, so I suspect that people forget that IT is "just" a conspiracy theory -- and a lousy one at that, since it isn't supported by evidence! In fact, the evidence RULES OUT the official conspiracy theory.

On the other hand, the evidence supporting the hypothesis of pre-planned demolition of the three World Trade Center buildings is so strong that this particular hypothesis has been pretty much PROVEN.(The article in the previous post mischaracterizes the destruction of the Towers by suggesting that they "collapsed" when in fact they were violently blown apart).

Here's a good introduction to the evidence of demolition, presented by experts in the field:

http://video.pbs.org/video/2270078138/

Some of the other "theories" listed are also supported by strong evidence.

“26.2”

Since: Feb 08

Santa Fe, NM

#3 Sep 30, 2012
My theory is that the conspiracy theorists are a sad lot of lonely individuals who have bought into the paranoid conspiracies in order to gain a social network that was previously absent from their pathetic lives, with the ultimate goal of finding someone who will agree to have sex with them.

The evidence for my theory is conclusive. On 9/11/01 Saturn and Pluto were in opposition, with a Saggitarius Ascendant. Pluto was positioned in the 12th house and Saturn was in the 7th house. With the stars and planets aligned as such, it was inevitable that people whose lives were socially deficient would manipulate this tragedy in order to find social acceptance and sex partners. Additionally, tests have concluded that, while traces of lithium were detected in the WTC dust cloud, the conspiracy theorists exhibit sub-clinical symptoms consistent with lithium deficiency.

“I ain't afraid of no ghosts.”

Since: Aug 08

Dear old mucky Drasnia

#4 Sep 30, 2012
9/11 conspiracy theory is somewhat easy to understand, from a psychological perspective. People simply don't want to believe that "the system" failed, and a handful of individuals were able to do that much. It's a defense mechanism, nothing more.
911 was an inside job

Canyon Lake, TX

#5 Sep 30, 2012
Silk_the_Absent1 wrote:
9/11 conspiracy theory is somewhat easy to understand, from a psychological perspective. People simply don't want to believe that "the system" failed, and a handful of individuals were able to do that much. It's a defense mechanism, nothing more.
"The system" failed?! Well, I'll be darned. Do you know of anyone in "the system" who was held accountable for the failure, in whole or in part? Was anyone fired for failing in their duty to defend this nation? I've looked for evidence that folks were held accountable, but I haven't found any, and I would certainly welcome your help.

I wonder if you can explain to me why the President's "National Security Adviser" on 9/11, Condoleezza Rice, managed to hold that position for several more years after that huge "failure" before being promoted to Secretary of State (the highest ranking cabinet secretary and 4th in the line of succession to President).

Or maybe you can tell me why George Tenet, Director of Central Intelligence on 9/11, got to keep his post and was even awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian award in the U.S.

And what about General Richard Myers, who was in charge of the Pentagon on 9/11? Why was he promoted to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff?

Or that fellow in charge of NORAD on 9/11, Ralph Eberhart? How did he wind up in command of the brand new NORTHCOM after having such a prominent role in "the system" that failed so miserably?

And what about Captain Charles Leidig and Brigadier General Montague Winfield, the top dogs at the National Military Command Center on 9/11, who were later promoted to Admiral and Major General respectively?

And what about all those boys at the FBI, including Michael Maltbie, the supervisor handling the case at the FBI's Radical Fundamentalist Unit, who continued their climb up career ladders?

Help me understand how a multi-trillion dollar military/intelligence apparatus can "fail" so utterly to defend our nation and yet be awarded with promotions and ballooning budgets!

Don't forget that on the day before 9/11/01, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld admitted midway through a speech that the Pentagon had lost track of $2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS.(!!!) Perhaps that's chump change in the military's budget, because I don't imagine it's an easy thing to misplace $2.3 TRILLION, and I'm not aware of any repercussions.

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If I may be permitted to humbly offer an alternative: I think we should cut the military and intelligence budget to ZERO as a consequence of that "system failure," and maybe we can put the Girl Scouts in charge of National defense, because after all, the response of the Girl Scouts on 9/11 was AS EFFECTIVE as the response of our military and alphabet-soup law enforcement/intelligence agencies, but the girls DO THEIR OWN FUNDRAISING!!

Just a suggestion.
911 was an inside job

Canyon Lake, TX

#6 Sep 30, 2012
Lobo Viejo wrote:
My theory is that the conspiracy theorists are a sad lot of lonely individuals who have bought into the paranoid conspiracies in order to gain a social network that was previously absent from their pathetic lives, with the ultimate goal of finding someone who will agree to have sex with them.
The evidence for my theory is conclusive. On 9/11/01 Saturn and Pluto were in opposition, with a Saggitarius Ascendant. Pluto was positioned in the 12th house and Saturn was in the 7th house. With the stars and planets aligned as such, it was inevitable that people whose lives were socially deficient would manipulate this tragedy in order to find social acceptance and sex partners. Additionally, tests have concluded that, while traces of lithium were detected in the WTC dust cloud, the conspiracy theorists exhibit sub-clinical symptoms consistent with lithium deficiency.
I don't know USMC Lt. Col. Shelton Lankford's astrological sign or the condition of his social network. Apparently he was in the Marines for twenty years, where he piloted more than 300 combat missions. Here's what Lt. Col. Lankford had to say about 9/11:
LT COL LANKFORD wrote:
September 11, 2001 seems destined to be the watershed event of our lives and the greatest test for our democracy in our lifetimes. The evidence of government complicity in the lead-up to the events, the failure to respond during the event, and the astounding lack of any meaningful investigation afterwards, as well as the ignoring of evidence turned up by others that renders the official explanation impossible, may signal the end of the American experiment. It has been used to justify all manners of measures to legalize repression at home and as a pretext for behaving as an aggressive empire abroad. Until we demand an independent, honest, and thorough investigation and accountability for those whose action and inaction led to those events and the cover-up, our republic and our Constitution remain in the gravest danger.
Here's more from the Marine:
LT COL LANKFORD wrote:
"This isn't about party, it isn't about Bush Bashing. It's about our country, our constitution, and our future....

Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away.

If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful, or ... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you?
911 was an inside job

Canyon Lake, TX

#7 Sep 30, 2012
Lt. Col. Lankford isn't alone. There are many more high-ranking U.S. military officers as well as law enforcement and intelligence professionals with distinguished careers who have publicly challenged the official 9/11 conspiracy theory.

See PATRIOTSQUESTION911.COM for a list of over 200 more, including:

LT. COL. ROBERT BOWMAN, PhD - former Director of Advanced Space Programs Development, U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions, PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Cal Tech. Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology.
LT COL BOWMAN wrote:
"A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. Itís impossible.Ö Thereís a second group of facts having to do with the cover up.Ö Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government donít want us to know what happened and whoís responsible.Ö

Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that itís highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say thatís much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder."
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And also WILLIAM CHRISTISON - 28-year veteran CIA analyst, serving as National Intelligence Officer (principal adviser to the Director of Central Intelligence on certain areas) for, at various times, Southeast Asia, South Asia and Africa, and finally serving as Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis, a 250-person unit responsible for political analysis of every country and region in the world.
CHRISTISON wrote:
David Ray Griffin's [book] "Debunking 9/11 Debunking" is a superb compendium of the strong body of evidence showing the official U.S. Government story of what happened on September 11, 2001 to be almost certainly a monstrous series of lies. Tragically, the entire course of U.S. foreign and domestic policies since that date has grown out of these almost certain falsehoods. This single book could (and should) provide the basis for the United Nationsā International Court of Justice, or some specially constituted global body (independent of the U.S.) to investigate with highest priority, and publicly report its findings about, the charge that unknown elements within the U.S. Government, and possibly some individuals elsewhere closely allied to the U.S., caused or contributed to causing the events of September 11 to happen.
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And many more. Are they all lithium-deficient?
911 was an inside job

Canyon Lake, TX

#8 Sep 30, 2012
Silk_the_Absent1 wrote:
9/11 conspiracy theory is somewhat easy to understand, from a psychological perspective. People simply don't want to believe that "the system" failed, and a handful of individuals were able to do that much. It's a defense mechanism, nothing more.
It appears that the "psychological perspective" that you describe isn't unanimously accepted. Here is the excerpt from that PBS video that I posted above featuring psychologists who describe a very different perspective that is also "easy to understand":

&t= 42m12s

So perhaps the thing to do is to look at the evidence HONESTLY, to set aside preconceived notions about what happened.

“26.2”

Since: Feb 08

Santa Fe, NM

#9 Oct 3, 2012
I think all this government deception began with the Apollo moon landing hoaxes.
911 was an inside job

Austin, TX

#10 Oct 4, 2012
Lobo Viejo wrote:
I think all this government deception began with the Apollo moon landing hoaxes.
I think government deception is as old as government.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#11 Oct 4, 2012
Here's an interesting thing I seem to remember from broadcasts on 9/11...it seemed the tone from much of the mainstream media was...scripted...as if they knew beforehand something was going to go down...
911 was an inside job

Austin, TX

#12 Oct 4, 2012
Knightmare wrote:
Here's an interesting thing I seem to remember from broadcasts on 9/11...it seemed the tone from much of the mainstream media was...scripted...as if they knew beforehand something was going to go down...
True. Osama bin laden's name surfaced very quickly, despite the fact that this operation was much more complex than any operation previously attributed to bin Laden. Also, the names of the 19 alleged hijackers were being circulated within 48 hours, despite the supposed "surprise" nature of the attack.(And even when some of the alleged hijackers turned up alive and well, the list remained unchanged).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1559151.stm

And there were times when the media appeared to jump the gun and report something that hadn't happened yet. Perhaps the most famous example (to anyone who has researched the topic) is BBC reporter Jane Standley telling us that WTC Building 7 had collapsed about 20 minutes before it actually did implode. You can even see the building in the live shot of the Manhattan sky-line behind her.

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Curiously, the transmission signal rapidly degrades about five minutes before the actual destruction of WTC-7, and her conversation with the anchor in London is abruptly cut. No doubt it would have been very interesting to have live footage of the disintegrating building twenty minutes after Standley's incredible "pre-news" report.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

BBC wasn't the only network to jump the gun in reporting the demise of WTC-7.

Actually, BBC wasn't the only news network to "pre-report" the collapse of WTC-7. Local FOX news also reported the collapse before it happened, and then caught the actual implosion on tape:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

And CBS news did the same:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Now listen to these early reports describing the "inevitability" of the collapse before it occurred and contrast these with the difficulty that the "investigators" of the structural "failure" had in characterizing the event:

From the FEMA preliminary investigation, Appendix C:
"The specifics of the fires in WTC7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time...The best hypothesis has only a low probability of occurence".
From an interview with lead NIST investigator Shyam Sunder in New York Magazine in March 2006:
But truthfully, I donít really know. Weíve had trouble getting a handle on building No. 7.
It wasn't until November of 2008 that NIST releases its final report on the demise WTC-7 (and their efforts were demonstrably fraudulent).

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#13 Oct 4, 2012
911 was an inside job wrote:
<quoted text>
True. Osama bin laden's name surfaced very quickly, despite the fact that this operation was much more complex than any operation previously attributed to bin Laden. Also, the names of the 19 alleged hijackers were being circulated within 48 hours, despite the supposed "surprise" nature of the attack.(And even when some of the alleged hijackers turned up alive and well, the list remained unchanged).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1559151.stm
And there were times when the media appeared to jump the gun and report something that hadn't happened yet. Perhaps the most famous example (to anyone who has researched the topic) is BBC reporter Jane Standley telling us that WTC Building 7 had collapsed about 20 minutes before it actually did implode. You can even see the building in the live shot of the Manhattan sky-line behind her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =nYQNSgty39cXX&
Curiously, the transmission signal rapidly degrades about five minutes before the actual destruction of WTC-7, and her conversation with the anchor in London is abruptly cut. No doubt it would have been very interesting to have live footage of the disintegrating building twenty minutes after Standley's incredible "pre-news" report.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
BBC wasn't the only network to jump the gun in reporting the demise of WTC-7.
Actually, BBC wasn't the only news network to "pre-report" the collapse of WTC-7. Local FOX news also reported the collapse before it happened, and then caught the actual implosion on tape:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
And CBS news did the same:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Now listen to these early reports describing the "inevitability" of the collapse before it occurred and contrast these with the difficulty that the "investigators" of the structural "failure" had in characterizing the event:
From the FEMA preliminary investigation, Appendix C:
<quoted text>
From an interview with lead NIST investigator Shyam Sunder in New York Magazine in March 2006:
<quoted text>
It wasn't until November of 2008 that NIST releases its final report on the demise WTC-7 (and their efforts were demonstrably fraudulent).
Question: What importance was WTC-7? I mean who worked or lived there? It seems to me...I know it sounds weird but it seems to me that WTC-7 was the actual target.

As far as the Pentagon interesting how a plane just disintegrates and all videos are unreleased...

“26.2”

Since: Feb 08

Santa Fe, NM

#14 Oct 4, 2012
We have no need to fabricate fairy tales about US government conspiracy theories when so many radical Muslims are looking for ways to kill Americans, and they have so many volunteers to be suicide bombers.

Believing in this paranoid conspiracy BS is dangerous in that it distracts us from our real enemies.

I think we should give Ahmadinejad a prostate exam with a cruise missile, and transform Iran's nuclear complex into a great big radioactive crater.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#15 Oct 5, 2012
Lobo Viejo wrote:
We have no need to fabricate fairy tales about US government conspiracy theories when so many radical Muslims are looking for ways to kill Americans, and they have so many volunteers to be suicide bombers.
Believing in this paranoid conspiracy BS is dangerous in that it distracts us from our real enemies.
I think we should give Ahmadinejad a prostate exam with a cruise missile, and transform Iran's nuclear complex into a great big radioactive crater.
But according to President Obama and the progressive liberals the war on terror is over...
dpb

Westcliffe, CO

#16 Oct 5, 2012
Hey knight -- are there non-progressive liberals? LMAO -- Get a life you stupid fkr: You and your like have lost the battle and are just whining POS living out the last of your totally non-productive lives. You think and babble like "terrorists" for the fascists and right-wing nut-cases -- may you and your like rot in your fairy tale hell you believe in: burn MFr burn.

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#17 Oct 5, 2012
dpb wrote:
Hey knight -- are there non-progressive liberals? LMAO -- Get a life you stupid fkr: You and your like have lost the battle and are just whining POS living out the last of your totally non-productive lives. You think and babble like "terrorists" for the fascists and right-wing nut-cases -- may you and your like rot in your fairy tale hell you believe in: burn MFr burn.
I'm Smiling...That Alone Should Scare You

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#18 Oct 5, 2012
dpb wrote:
Hey knight -- are there non-progressive liberals? LMAO -- Get a life you stupid fkr: You and your like have lost the battle and are just whining POS living out the last of your totally non-productive lives. You think and babble like "terrorists" for the fascists and right-wing nut-cases -- may you and your like rot in your fairy tale hell you believe in: burn MFr burn.
If you say "gullible" slowly it sounds like "oranges".
911 was an inside job

Austin, TX

#19 Oct 5, 2012
Knightmare wrote:
<quoted text>
Question: What importance was WTC-7? I mean who worked or lived there? It seems to me...I know it sounds weird but it seems to me that WTC-7 was the actual target.
As far as the Pentagon interesting how a plane just disintegrates and all videos are unreleased...
The tenants of WTC-7 included the Securities and Exchange Commission (which stored case files and evidence on several prominent open investigations, including the ENRON and WorldCom accounting fraud cases), the Secret Service, one of the largest Central Intelligence Agency offices outside of Langley, the NYC Mayor's Office of Emergency Management, and the Department of Defense.

With an operation as big as the 9/11 attack, there were no doubt multiple targets and multiple goals. It was a very risky operation, but the perps obviously felt that the benefits outweighed the costs and risk of exposure. Investigations into possible insider trading and other financial crimes related to 9/11 were turning up all kinds of "anomalies," but these went silent fairly quickly. However, there is enough in the public domain to indicate that financially motivated crimes were a large component of the attack, and so the destruction of the S.E.C. in WTC-7 and the budget analysts office at the Pentagon make sense in that context.

See Mark Gaffney's book "Black 9/11: Money, Motive, and Technology" for more on that (haven't read it, so not endorsing it, but I've heard interviews, and Gaffney mentions some of the same investigations I've run across):
http://www.amazon.com/Black-11-Money-Motive-T...

One example, the Convar data-recovery project, which was able to recover a great deal from WTC hard-drives using new process, that turned up some of those "anomalies":

“I Am No One To Be Trifled With”

Since: Jun 09

Dread Pirate Roberts

#20 Oct 5, 2012
911 was an inside job wrote:
<quoted text>
The tenants of WTC-7 included the Securities and Exchange Commission (which stored case files and evidence on several prominent open investigations, including the ENRON and WorldCom accounting fraud cases), the Secret Service, one of the largest Central Intelligence Agency offices outside of Langley, the NYC Mayor's Office of Emergency Management, and the Department of Defense.
With an operation as big as the 9/11 attack, there were no doubt multiple targets and multiple goals. It was a very risky operation, but the perps obviously felt that the benefits outweighed the costs and risk of exposure. Investigations into possible insider trading and other financial crimes related to 9/11 were turning up all kinds of "anomalies," but these went silent fairly quickly. However, there is enough in the public domain to indicate that financially motivated crimes were a large component of the attack, and so the destruction of the S.E.C. in WTC-7 and the budget analysts office at the Pentagon make sense in that context.
See Mark Gaffney's book "Black 9/11: Money, Motive, and Technology" for more on that (haven't read it, so not endorsing it, but I've heard interviews, and Gaffney mentions some of the same investigations I've run across):
http://www.amazon.com/Black-11-Money-Motive-T...
One example, the Convar data-recovery project, which was able to recover a great deal from WTC hard-drives using new process, that turned up some of those "anomalies":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Nh3_wWmS6lkXX
Interesting. Okay...what part of the pentagon was destroyed? I can't remember...

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