RailRunner Police? For the love of G...

RailRunner Police? For the love of God, people!!!

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Howard Beale

Rochedale, Australia

#1 Jan 30, 2009
Give me a break, you reckless, free-spending political hacks! Why create a police department for a small train? We are already overrepresented
state-wide in the number of police officers/government employees per 100,000 (Sourcebook of Criminal Justice Statistics, US Department of Justice).

Use your small, crooked brains to figure out a plan how to DETAIL A NEW MEXICO STATE TROOPER, who have State-wide Jurisdiction, to ride on Bill Richardson's ultimate phallic symbol 1 WEEK AT A TIME. Come up with 2nd and 3rd alternates to replace each officer scheduled in case that officer gets sick, crashes into a civilian, or otherwise detained from reporting.

We're in the middle of A DEPRESSION even if everyone is calling it a depression- time to halt
redecorating the Roundhouse, installing low-flow toilets in Albuquerque public buildings, the infamous Mayor for Life Martin Chavez Memorial Arena, and the Greg Payne Trolleys. Give it a rest you m_o_r_o_n_s. And please DON'T HIRE YOUR COUSINS OR CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTORS to conduct a $700,000 study on what to do about security on the RailRunner. This is just further proof that you baboons didn't put a lot of thought into this train boondoggle and just rushed it through in time for Bill Richardson's Presidential Flop of a campaign.

People are losing their jobs in HUGE NUMBERS. Stop your spending and raising taxes. Tell your cousins to apply for unemployment, welfare, or get a job at a fast-food place and spare us taxpayers! I'm mad as hell and I ain't gonna take it anymore!
Eltorro

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Jan 30, 2009
Hey, the state can use the drunk state cop that was in the BMW driven by the drunk lawyer when it ran over the drunk guy crossing the street in Santa Gay. What a state we live in.
N-igma

Rio Rancho, NM

#3 Jan 30, 2009
Almost all small rail systems have their own police. The Metro in Washington, DC is one of the safest systems in the world, due to the efforts of Metro PD. If the clowns would behave, you wouldn't need ringmasters.

“The Travelling Grandpa!”

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#4 Jan 30, 2009
N-igma wrote:
Almost all small rail systems have their own police. The Metro in Washington, DC is one of the safest systems in the world, due to the efforts of Metro PD. If the clowns would behave, you wouldn't need ringmasters.
So just because others have them, we should too?

Are we making this into a non-issue? How come it was never mentioned before now. Was/is it really a problem?

I think not, I think its designed to give a false sense of security in order to convince people to ride the FailRunner, a propaganda tool to increase ridership on a failing choo choo.

“hardcore engine revver”

Since: Dec 07

Los Angeles, CA

#5 Jan 30, 2009
N-igma wrote:
Almost all small rail systems have their own police. The Metro in Washington, DC is one of the safest systems in the world, due to the efforts of Metro PD. If the clowns would behave, you wouldn't need ringmasters.
Metro PD in D.C. are the Metropolitan PD, who patrol the entire metro area as well as the METRO system. They are not just police for the rail system.

“Old Sailors Never Die.”

Since: Aug 08

Land of The Brave

#6 Jan 30, 2009
N-igma wrote:
Almost all small rail systems have their own police. The Metro in Washington, DC is one of the safest systems in the world, due to the efforts of Metro PD. If the clowns would behave, you wouldn't need ringmasters.
How many ride the D.C. Metro compared to how many ride Retardsons choo-choo? Since when did the D.C. Metro area become "small"?

Apples and oranges are two different things and any fool can tell the difference. Unless they work for the government.

“Down in the Bayou”

Since: Apr 08

Vancleave Mississippi

#7 Jan 30, 2009
if it creates jobs, and provides for public safety...do it..I personally don't think we could ever have too many police to protect those who cannot protect themselves..

“The Travelling Grandpa!”

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#8 Jan 30, 2009
Daniel in Hobbs wrote:
if it creates jobs, and provides for public safety...do it..I personally don't think we could ever have too many police to protect those who cannot protect themselves..
Lets not create jobs for the sake of jobs only. Lets create jobs that are meaningful and have a purpose. There are all manner of things one could that would fill that bill.

As for FailRunner police, this is the very first mention made in Abq re: safety on the train from drunks etc. Did this just all of a sudden occur and blossom? Is it REALLY a problem, as I stated earlier in the thread that requires this manner of action?

“Cogito, ergo sum”

Since: Oct 08

Las Cruces, NM

#9 Jan 30, 2009
Yup, looks like the Roundhouse wants us to be just like Oakland; with 'cops' that can't tell a Taser from a Glock.
Slim

Huntsville, AL

#10 Jan 30, 2009
How about making the Rail Runner a concealed weapon zone. Everyone on the train is allowed to pack without a license, just like their personal vehicles.

That ought to do it. Zero cost.
DevilsAdvocate

Cedar Crest, NM

#11 Jan 30, 2009
So you want the train to go away? Are y'all the same people that want "W" back?
"W" lost. The train is here, Deal with the real.
HeadCount

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Jan 30, 2009
Will the Failrunner police be included in the passenger count?
TrainCopsLLC

Huntsville, AL

#13 Jan 30, 2009
Question: If I start my own private police department in order to get the contract, anyone know who I have to see to make my 'Pay-to-Play" donation?(although I have a good idea where I'll have to start).
Rocky2

Huntsville, AL

#14 Jan 30, 2009
evil todd wrote:
<quoted text>Metro PD in D.C. are the Metropolitan PD, who patrol the entire metro area as well as the METRO system. They are not just police for the rail system.
NO! The Metropolitan Police is the name of the District of Columbia police department. They operate within the District, not sure why they are called "metropolitan". DC cops are well known for their uselessness and corruption. The only reason the Mall is reasonably safe is because of the National Park Service Police. St. Louis city calls their department metropolitan too, even though St. Louis County has a police department, plus all the municipalities in addition.

Each county in MD and VA (Prince Georges, Montgomery, Fairfax, Arlington, Prince William) has their own police department, as do some of the municipalities. METRO is the transit system, consisting of both rail and buses. They have operations in the two states plus the District.

I think it is prudent for RR to have a security guard at the stations to prevent theft and vandalism. Beyond that would be premature at this point.
Just My Opinion

Las Cruces, NM

#15 Jan 31, 2009
I agree with Rocky. If a security guard can prevent theft and vandalism to a certain degree what would it hurt? I would feel safer knowing there was "some" protection as to "no" protection. After all look at what it cost to repair the nasty graffiti that appears for months in places that we get so tired of seeing. Why not feel secure?
Just My Opinion

Las Cruces, NM

#16 Jan 31, 2009
If a security guard can prevent theft and vandalism to a certain degree what would it hurt? I would feel safer knowing there was "some" protection as to "no" protection. After all look at what it cost to repair the nasty graffiti that appears for months in places that we get so tired of seeing. Why not feel secure?
Hello

Florence, AL

#17 Mar 4, 2009
I am all for it. Several other smaller train lines have police departments. I understand that they would need to find funding for it, but from what I have read it says they plan to fund it from the EXISTING Rail Runner budget. Why not add police to a transit system that as of now has nothing other than local police response for serious situations.

“The Travelling Grandpa!”

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#18 Mar 4, 2009
I listened to Lawrence Rael speak on the news about this. He envisions 5 officers he said. They wouldn't ride the trains all the time and would be doing PnR duty. He said it'd cost about $500,000 and officers would cover 6 days/week.

Ok, a 40 hour week means the industry standard of 2080 hours annually.

500,000÷2080÷5=$48/hr. Not bad for parking lot security! Something is not quite right in this scenario.

Also, the onus for the police force was so that the train didn't have to wait for the regular police to show up if there was a problem. Well, if the officers(?) are not riding the train, it seems to me that they'll still have to await the regular police of there is a problem. So why do we need anything but parking lot security at best, and at $500k???

Here's what I envision, 1 Chief, 1 Deputy Chief, 1 Lieutenant, 1 Sergeant, and 1 officer to do all the work!
Howard Beale

AOL

#19 Mar 4, 2009
N-igma wrote:
Almost all small rail systems have their own police. The Metro in Washington, DC is one of the safest systems in the world, due to the efforts of Metro PD. If the clowns would behave, you wouldn't need ringmasters.
Yeah, lots of states have lots of things. This argument is NEVER used when we are describing our disgraceful mental health facilities, which are practically non-existent. When it comes time to spend money on stuff THE PEOPLE REALLY NEED, we are reminded we are one of the poorest states in the Union and can't afford it. When it comes time to CREATE JOBS FOR NEPHEWS, COUSINS, AND SONS, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE IT BECAUSE ALMOST EVERY OTHER STATE HAS ONE. Give me a break! I don't see how anyone is going to make serious trouble on the train WHEN THEY CAN'T EVEN MOVE BECAUSE IT IS SO JAMMED PACKED.
Al Bondigas

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Mar 4, 2009
Some of you are not seeing the big picture.
You create a police force you nedd a boss. Room for one political appointee.
Now you need a first line supervisor. Another political appointee.
And who's gonna do the admin work? Of course!!! Some friend of the governor must have a wife or goomad that needs a 60 grand payday.
Now you gonna need a headquarters. Hey, who's cousin does construction?
Five cops? Come on, get a grip. In two years it's a 12 to 15 man department with a $2M budget.

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