Hundreds gather to remember slain teens

Hundreds of family and friends of the crash victims from Sunday's wrong-way crash gathered at the park next to St. Full Story

cgg

“Here's looking at you”

Since: Mar 09

Albuquerque, NM

#22 Jun 29, 2009
Now we'll get to see if this Owens clown gets charged the same as Gordon House and receives a similar 22 year sentence. Wanna bet not?
Feeling Mean

Owasso, OK

#23 Jun 29, 2009
ECJ wrote:
<quoted text>
abc - While I agree with some of your comment, I find it very offensive that you would chose this time to comment on the parents' judgement. How bout a filter? Out of respect for these grieving parents, one of whom is my beloved friend who can second guess herself just fine without your help, please kindly remove your post.
I whole heartedly agree. These are teens who were NOT up to "no good." They were simply doing what teens do. If it wasn't the teens that got hurt by this guy it would have been someone else. It almost sounds like "abc" just made an excuse for this guy....something our generation and society commonly does instead of holding people accountable for their actions and decisions.
Feeling Mean

Owasso, OK

#24 Jun 29, 2009
cgg wrote:
Now we'll get to see if this Owens clown gets charged the same as Gordon House and receives a similar 22 year sentence. Wanna bet not?
While I consider both House and Owens human garbage.....the point you raised has crossed my mind. Time will tell....
Some Guy

United States

#25 Jun 29, 2009
Feeling Mean wrote:
<quoted text>
While I consider both House and Owens human garbage.....the point you raised has crossed my mind. Time will tell....
4 counts of vehicular manslaughter, 1 count of reckless driving, 1 count of DUI... there are plenty of chances for this guy to get nailed to a wall.

I suggest all of us follow his trial closely, watch the major players, and watch what happens as things progress. The public needs to know that the judicial system is protecting us, and if it is NOT (as is common in NM), we need to ensure we take it as our responsibility to replace the failing members of said system with people who WILL protect us.
Richard

Santa Fe, NM

#26 Jun 29, 2009
When fine and happy young people have their lives ended like this, it is an unmitigated tragedy. I cry for their loss to the world, and I wish I could wrap arms of consolation around all their families and their friends.

Richard Polese, Vice President
Santa Fe Board of Education

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#27 Jun 29, 2009
Advocate wrote:
"He crossed the center lane just after midnight, Sunday. A 16-year-old driving in the opposite direction tried to swerve out of the way, but was unable to do so in time."
I wonder who's statement this was.
No excuse for stupid impaired drivers and all due respect to the deceased. But how do they know what played out in this accident? The teenagers words?
Teenagers will stretch the truth to get themselves off the hook.
Sounds like the teenager *might* have over compensated and ended up sideways in front of Owens.
This is such a crazy statement. The teenagers where going the right direction and Owens was going the wrong direction. It's very simple to understand, Owens was the wrong way driver.. It doesn't matter if the teenagers over compensated or not.. The facts are Owens was at fault. Period!
josl

Albuquerque, NM

#28 Jun 29, 2009
mandetory interlock for everybody whether u drink or not!
Alcohol

Santa Fe, NM

#29 Jun 29, 2009
Lets face it, the bottom line is that alcohol is the underlying cause of this tragic accident. The Alcohol is the agent, Mr. Owens the host, and the road, the environment. We must approach it at a comprehensive level. It is time that all of us be pro-active instead of re-active. We have to change the way the communities views alcohol. This is a very complex issue. Everyone is playing the blame game right now, but the bottom line is, that the entire community has to pull together by taking a comprehensive approach to prevent sensless deaths.
DCG SF NM

United States

#30 Jun 29, 2009
New mecico needs to have a no tolarance law period !!!!! Start confiscating cars , convicting with real jail time at.0001 then maybe people will get it .

“Excuse my Beeeeeautay! ”

Since: Mar 08

ABQ, NM (now in Detroit)

#31 Jun 29, 2009
geez how sad....my condolences to the friends and families of these kids.

A few months ago, 4 teenagers were killed by a female drunk driver in the city that I live in....she jumped a median on a busy street at 8:00pm. The kids were just stopped at a red light, while going out for pizza. Goes to show you NEVER know when this will happen and people are NEVER safe. You can't blame the parents.
gagal

United States

#32 Jun 29, 2009
abc wrote:
<quoted text>I will not remove my comments because I see it has struck a vital nerve and now has caught attention. First, let it be clear no disrespect intended to the grieving families.
But there are major factors contrubuting to this plaguing issue:
parents letting their children out after hours to a "house party"...
I could not agree with you more. Kids this young barely have any driving experience and certainly do not belong on the road that late - especially going TO a party! Imagine how late they would be driving back! Good parents would never allow that. Mine sure did not.
a parent

Albuquerque, NM

#33 Jun 29, 2009
It's hard being a parent of a teen. You want them to have a social life, and to have fun, but midnight curfew is simply too late! Teens should not be out when drunk drivers are out. I would urge the state to make curfew 10:00 P.M.. That way, parents will be relieved of some of the pressure of letting their kids have fun, by letting them stay out to the now midnight curfew.
Bless the dear families for their loss, and may this never happen again... parents need to ban together to make sure their children are home or with friends at their homes. communicate with each other. Know where your kids are at all times!
Danielle

United States

#34 Jun 29, 2009
Feeling Mean wrote:
<quoted text> These are teens who were NOT up to "no good." They were simply doing what teens do...
This is where <strong> responsible </strong> parents should step in. It is not even legal for people that young to have so many teens in the car with them! Especially that late at night!

You better belive good parents do not allow TEENS to run the roads at night. You are asking for trouble plain and simple.
a parent

Albuquerque, NM

#35 Jun 29, 2009
I agree, but teens do lie about where they are, and who is in the car with them. Strong parent or not, parents are in the dark most of the time.
Danielle wrote:
<quoted text>
This is where <strong> responsible </strong> parents should step in. It is not even legal for people that young to have so many teens in the car with them! Especially that late at night!
You better belive good parents do not allow TEENS to run the roads at night. You are asking for trouble plain and simple.
CAL

Los Alamos, NM

#36 Jun 29, 2009
The prosecution for DD in NM is so poor and full of holes. Maybe we need to push some responsibiity back to the businesses that are serving these people, to excess. We lost 4 of Santa Fe's bright lights and scarred untold lives. Tolerance for DD should be set to once, then jail, loss of license and major fines.
Daniel

Lincoln, NE

#37 Jun 29, 2009
a parent wrote:
It's hard being a parent of a teen. You want them to have a social life, and to have fun, but midnight curfew is simply too late! Teens should not be out when drunk drivers are out. I would urge the state to make curfew 10:00 P.M.. That way, parents will be relieved of some of the pressure of letting their kids have fun, by letting them stay out to the now midnight curfew.
Bless the dear families for their loss, and may this never happen again... parents need to ban together to make sure their children are home or with friends at their homes. communicate with each other. Know where your kids are at all times!
Curfews can not be enforced on a legal basis. In other words you can't go to jail for breaking curfew it is unconstitutional and unfair to punish kids unless they are causing trouble or breaking the law. As you can see age-restrictive laws are usually ignored. We still have kids who drink alcohol even though the law states you must be 21.

I want our police to be patrolling and investigating drunk drivers and other violent crimes....not wasting time issuing citations to people on a cell phone or kids who may be under 18.

Jesus.....get your priorities straight!
Sunny Delight

Albuquerque, NM

#38 Jun 29, 2009
josl wrote:
mandetory interlock for everybody whether u drink or not!
Tell me why, when I do not drink alcohol, I should have to spend money for a mandetory interlock. I am the only one who drives my car unless someone steals it which hasn't happened yet, thank God. But, your suggesting that I should be responsible for those who do drink alcohol. How about only interlock ignitions in the cars of those who are known to be drinkers.
bbb

New York, NY

#39 Jun 29, 2009
Some_Guy wrote:
Did he get on going the wrong way to begin with, or did he cross over?
...on that note: Is there a reason why medians are beautified in NM to the point of $10,000 potteries, yet we don't have a guardrail to keep the drunks from crossing the median on I-25?
As for:
"I've been out with him before, behind him when he wrecked, but luckily it was out in the middle of nowhere, there was nobody around. This time, he didn't learn his lesson and it was a lot more of a consequence, obviously."
"He's a good guy, but he's known for this," Mulchay said. "This is the third or fourth time something like this has happened to him, and you would think he had learned by now, but obviously not."
If it's the 3rd or 4th time he's wrecked while driving drunk, think about how many times he did without wrecking.
I want to know if Owens was arrested on any of those prior incidents. If so I want to know if he was let off easily, and then I want to know what judge(s) thought it OK to do this.
And then, I want those judges kicked out of their courtrooms.
The pottery area is a very effective barrier to anyone crossing into on coming traffic. and I was noticing yesterday coming back from santa fe that there is now a cable barrier down the middle of i25. it won't stop a car that goes airborne but it will (and obviously has) stop anyone from crossing over. of course if we had unlimited resources, i'd put a ft wall between lanes on every highwy
bbb

New York, NY

#40 Jun 29, 2009
Danielle wrote:
<quoted text>
This is where <strong> responsible </strong> parents should step in. It is not even legal for people that young to have so many teens in the car with them! Especially that late at night!
You better belive good parents do not allow TEENS to run the roads at night. You are asking for trouble plain and simple.
I've asked this question on other threads: who among us did not at some time disobey our parents when we were teenagers? any parent who lets their kids out of the house does it with a prayer that they won't do something stupid. and let's not forget who was driving drunk, it wasn't the kids.
maybe we should

Los Alamos, NM

#41 Jun 29, 2009
Daniel wrote:
We should have ignition interlocks on all vehicles. I think New Mexico should LOWER the registration, title, and tax fees in exchange for the mandate that all vehicles be installed with ignition interlock. We also need to install toll booths and permanent DWI checkpoints through out the state.
That is the only sure fire way to stop drunk driving. If your car can't start....you can't kill anyone driving. It's that simple!
Let's face it. Suspended licenses don't stop people from driving. Funny TV ads don't stop people from driving. It is drunk drivers that drive and we must stop them before that kill again
just not sell alcohol in NM.

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