Massacres- Sadly, There's Always A Wa...

Massacres- Sadly, There's Always A Way For The Psychos

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“To Serve All. To Love Only One”

Since: Feb 09

My Mind

#1 Dec 21, 2012
On May 18, 1927, a psycho by the name of Andrew Kehoe, a member of the School Board of his town, Bath, Michigan, got the notion to murder his wife, and then set fire to his own farm. Later, he went down to the town's elementary school, which he had prepped for months with over 500 lbs. of dynamite and fire-starting materials, and caused explosions and fires in the school while classes were being conducted. Of the school's 238 children, 38 of them, and 4 adults died. Fifty-nine (59) others were seriously burned, maimed or wounded by shrapnel. No TV news to spread the carnage around the world.

On April 19, 1995, an equally psychotic Timothy McVeigh, mixes ammonium nitrate (a fertilizer) with fuel oil to make a monstrous truck bomb which he detonates, destroying the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City, and murdering 168 men, women, including 19 children. Improvised explosive devices can even be manufactured from ordinary baking flour. Where there is some psychotic looney wishing to cause large-scale mayhem, he or she will succeed unless they tip their hand before the fact. You cannot pass enough laws to stop him/her. The Newtown, CT, psycho was already in violation of a number of laws which did not deter him: Murder (his own Mother); minor in possession of a handgun; carrying a handgun unto school grounds. Then he went on to add to his list of crimes.

The government knows full well these laws don't work. They've said so themselves in reports put out by their law enforcement agencies. Consider Mexico. You must be 25 years of age or older to legally own a firearm, and you may not legally take it outside of your home. Yet look at all the carnage on a daily basis. It's the drug cartels causing it, yet they blame the United States!
It's always easier to villify something like the NRA, which in fact fought in the early 1900s to forbid firearms ownership to convicted felons and persons certified as insane, than to face the fact there is very little you can do to prevent psychopaths from murdering people. The more you disarm the populace, the easier you make it for psychos to murder on a grand scale. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

US Department of Justice Reports:

"Impacts of the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban", NCJ 173405, March 1999

"Crime and Justice in the United States and in England and Wales, 1981-1996" NCJ169284, October 1998. Violent and property crime in England has exploded and people are legally forbidden to defend themselves against crime!

I'm liberal in every respect except when it comes to the 2nd Amendment. It wasn't put there to provide for hunting and target shooting. It was put there to insure that what happened in Germany on January 31, 1933, and what happened in Egypt recently with President Morsi (elected democratically but has given himself dictatorial powers) does not happen in the USA. It's the tool of last resort in keeping politicians' hands off the Bill of Rights.
Remember, black powder rifles and bolt action rifles WERE military weapons in their day and civilians were allowed to own them. Americans don't even have the right to own military weapons unless they pay hundreds each year, submit to minute background searches, and surrender their 4th amendment rights- you have to give up the right to unreasonable searches and allow the BATFE to search your home anytime they want to. You also have to notify every city, county, state, etc. you're driving through their jurisdiction BEFORE THE FACT if you decide you want to take it to a gun shooting range in another state. And still criminal gangs here and in Mexico seem to be able to get their hands on automatic weapons! Go figure.

And to the imbecile in Northern New Mexico. I'm not an apologist or enabler for anyone. I don't have to be. Each person is responsible for his/her own behavior/acts. I'm a defender of the Bill of Rights.
duh

Huntsville, AL

#2 Dec 21, 2012
The Karmic Crusader wrote:
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This kind of firepower didn't require junior to know how to tie his shoes, but he could kill a couple of dozen people in a few minutes because that is what these machines are designed to do.
Concerned Citizen

AOL

#3 Dec 21, 2012
When you outlaw these, then psychos will use M1 Rifles, M1 carbines; when you outlaw those, psychos will use Winchester 73-like repeating rifles, when you outlaw those, psychos will use shotguns; when you outlaw every single kind of firearm, the violent and property crime rate will boom just like in England, Australia and New Zealand because crooks will know homeowners are disarmed and will face still penalties if they do produce a weapon to resist. Crooks will find a way to buy weapons. Look at drugs, they've been illegal forever and the country is awash in them.
All you're going to do is make black-marketeers very wealthy. Guns will be the next "bootleg whisky" and/or "illegal drugs" and then we'll have an even bigger "gun cartel" than we have now because Americans will still want guns.

That's typical stupid government thinking. They did the same thing in Germany with the heaters in our tanks and armored personnel carriers. A few GIs died in separate accidents involving carbon monoxide leaks into armored vehicles. Instead of instituting a routine vehicle maintenance and inspections, the US Army REMOVED THE HEATERS out of every single vehicle. End result? Half-frozen GIs, but by God, not one death by carbon monoxide.
This is the "gun control" mentality.

You don't punish everyone for the psychotic acts of a few. That's part of what these psychos want.
It's also what terrorists want: To change our culture for the worse- to make it more restrictive, more paranoid. The Volstead Act didn't work; making drugs illegal didn't work.
All we did was to creat the Cosa Nostra and then the Colombian, Mexican, Afghani, etc. Drug Cartels.
Don't like guns, don't have one! Mine have never gone out for a stroll or been stolen in over 35 years and gone on a killing spree. Part of the blame in Newtown goes to the poor Mother of the psycho- for teaching him how to shoot and keeping her firearms unlocked. She also should have NEVER have let him know she was planning on having him committed.

Americans don't get shocked at kids dying. They get shocked at HOW they die. How many thousands die every year in automobile crashes? while texting? while drinking and/or using drugs? by drowning? in falls? in "medical misadventures? It's a hell of a lot more than die due to guns!

“Shoot First, Think Never”

Since: Jun 09

Elk Grove

#4 Dec 21, 2012
duh wrote:
<quoted text>
This kind of firepower didn't require junior to know how to tie his shoes, but he could kill a couple of dozen people in a few minutes because that is what these machines are designed to do.
Just point and shoot huh?
dpb

La Veta, CO

#5 Dec 21, 2012
YUP -- Fill the sky like rain drops --
yawwnn

Huntsville, AL

#6 Dec 21, 2012
Concerned Citizen wrote:
When
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zzzz zzzz

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque

#7 Dec 21, 2012
Nuclear weapons don't kill people. People who use nuclear weapons kill people.

“Shoot First, Think Never”

Since: Jun 09

Elk Grove

#8 Dec 21, 2012
walterfm wrote:
Nuclear weapons don't kill people. People who use nuclear weapons kill people.
I...well...yeah...
dpb

La Veta, CO

#9 Dec 21, 2012
Actually psychos like (pawn posing as a)knight kill people -- They finally lose control of their mentally disabled minds, and the results speak for themselves. Get some help "knight" (snicker) before you hurt someone or (hopefully) self-abort post-term.

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#10 Dec 21, 2012
dpb wrote:
Actually psychos like (pawn posing as a)knight kill people -- They finally lose control of their mentally disabled minds, and the results speak for themselves. Get some help "knight" (snicker) before you hurt someone or (hopefully) self-abort post-term.
Another confession, wow, I'm impressed! now if you'll only take your own advice...
dpb

La Veta, CO

#11 Dec 21, 2012
My advice to you is to pull your foreskin down from your eyes and see/visit reality: You a$$ kissing alcoholic, lambe' MFr. ;>)

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#12 Dec 21, 2012
dpb wrote:
My advice to you is to pull your foreskin down from your eyes and see/visit reality: You a$$ kissing alcoholic, lambe' MFr. ;>)
ROTFL - is that your neck or a circumcision scar<snicker>? You truly are a sociopath.

Sociopath: A person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience. Nyuk nyuk nyuk...
dpb

La Veta, CO

#13 Dec 21, 2012
OH I have a "conscience", unlike you right-wing fascists, without compassion or recognition for anyone but yourselves: AH ALL.

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