Airbus Sees A380 Demand Recovering After Wing Issues

Oct 14, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Bloomberg

European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co. expects demand for the Airbus SAS A380 superjumbo, the world's biggest passenger plane, to recover after issues with the wing and the global financial crisis hurt sales.

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Oct 14, 2013
 
They are the only ones who see it and the must have been drunk when they last saw it.
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Oct 17, 2013
 
The Airbus A380 is in the dolldrums for sure,the wing problem didn't help it either,but like the 747 before it,I think its uptake will be long term.Passengers who have flown on it,want to go back on it,to the extent that some even pay for a premium ticket to do so-but you are right "Flyer" -but think long term like me
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Oct 23, 2013
 
Some A380 planes are fitted with Rolls Royce engines which are not the most reliable... Some have asked that only the Snecma engines be used as they are a lot more reliable. Hopefully they solve this issue so we avoid other incidents...

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Oct 23, 2013
 
alexandre wrote:
Some A380 planes are fitted with Rolls Royce engines which are not the most reliable... Some have asked that only the Snecma engines be used as they are a lot more reliable. Hopefully they solve this issue so we avoid other incidents...
Snecma is allied with General Electric in CFM
and is now allied with Rolls-Royce to fit fighter planes.
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Oct 25, 2013
 
DonPanic wrote:
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Snecma is allied with General Electric in CFM
and is now allied with Rolls-Royce to fit fighter planes.
Yes, SNECMA assembles and distributes engines designed by General Electric (USA) and Rolls-Royce (Britain).

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Oct 27, 2013
 
rio wrote:
Yes, SNECMA assembles and distributes engines designed by General Electric (USA) and Rolls-Royce (Britain).
It's enough lies of you, Mr Rio.
When you don't know anything you are speaking about, you'd better shut up, and stop that systematic french bashing as you use to do.

Snecma (Safran) with General Electric one side as well as With Rolls Royce another side are 50% partnerships where are shared R&D, Safran is far to be a simple subcontractor for GE an RR, it has very advanced bureaux d'études, and is abble to produce alone reactors for the Rafale.
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Oct 27, 2013
 
DonPanic wrote:
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stop that systematic french bashing

Snecma (Safran) with General Electric one side as well as With Rolls Royce another side are 50% partnerships where are shared R&D, Safran is far to be a simple subcontractor for GE an RR, it has very advanced bureaux d'études, and is abble to produce alone reactors for the Rafale.
Stop telling lies then!

It may have created other jet engines, but SNECMA didn't design the General Electric or Rolls-Royce engines on Boeings or Airbus!

In fact, France has NEVER designed a large jet engine to fit a jumbo jet. When it had its own aircraft industry (Sud Aviation, Caravelle, etc...) France used to buy jet engines outside.
An example is Concorde, which had British Rolls-Royce engine.

One of the reasons it entered in a partnership with Britain in Airbus industry, was to have access to large power-plant Rolls-Royce was providing Boeing with. Rolls-Royce has often licensed its engines to be manufactured abroad, just like with Pratt & Whitney, and maybe with SNECMA.
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Stop telling lies then!
It may have created other jet engines, but SNECMA didn't design the General Electric or Rolls-Royce engines on Boeings or Airbus!
In fact, France has NEVER designed a large jet engine to fit a jumbo jet. When it had its own aircraft industry (Sud Aviation, Caravelle, etc...) France used to buy jet engines outside.
An example is Concorde, which had British Rolls-Royce engine.
One of the reasons it entered in a partnership with Britain in Airbus industry, was to have access to large power-plant Rolls-Royce was providing Boeing with. Rolls-Royce has often licensed its engines to be manufactured abroad, just like with Pratt & Whitney, and maybe with SNECMA.
stop these lies!!!! Snecma produces its own engines!!! It has also powered the Concorde!!! We don't need British engines!!! The A380 also uses SNECMA engines!!!! Enough of these lies!!!!
France produces Mirage an Rafale fighters bought by many countries in the world!!

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rio wrote:
Stop telling lies then!
It may have created other jet engines, but SNECMA didn't design the General Electric or Rolls-Royce engines on Boeings or Airbus!
In fact, France has NEVER designed a large jet engine to fit a jumbo jet. When it had its own aircraft industry (Sud Aviation, Caravelle, etc...) France used to buy jet engines outside.
Stop speaking about things you know nothing about.
Alliance bitwin GE and Snecma in CFM is really a 50/50 joint venture where the French did brought at that time the Airbus engine market, and studied and build the whole compressing part of the reactor CFM 56 http://www.snecma.com/-cfm56-.html...

Even in the Engine Alliance http://www.enginealliance.com/ bitwin P&W and General Electric to produce the large engines to fit the A380 and probably the Boeing 747X, the french will produce 10% of the engine value.
By the way, you probably don't know how powerfull is Safran http://www.safran-group.com/site-safran/aeros...

All that you show is your ridiculous ignorance of Air and Space industries, as well international as french.

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alexandre wrote:
stop these lies!!!! Snecma produces its own engines!!! It has also powered the Concorde!!! We don't need British engines!!! The A380 also uses SNECMA engines!!!! Enough of these lies!!!!
France produces Mirage an Rafale fighters bought by many countries in the world!!
Sorry, boy, you too show your ignorance about the french Air and Space Industry.

Snecma, a division of Safran, doesn't build by itself big airplanes reactors, it cooperates with US engine makers, and soon with Rolls Royce.

It produces by itself reactors for fighting airplanes.
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Sorry, boy, you too show your ignorance about the french Air and Space Industry.
Snecma, a division of Safran, doesn't build by itself big airplanes reactors, it cooperates with US engine makers, and soon with Rolls Royce.
It produces by itself reactors for fighting airplanes.
Snecma builds jet engines for less than 100 passenger planes. In addition to that they are in partnership with G.E to test GE jet engines built for airbus (CFM56). They also test the airborne software to regulate gasolene.
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Snecma builds jet engines for less than 100 passenger planes.
Exactly!
SNECMA has no tradition of designing large jet engines, like for jumbo-jets.
SNECMA is just an assembly plant for RR and GE engines.

France has traditionally relied on foreign engines for its aircraft industry, built under license, or purchased outright.
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Oct 28, 2013
 
DonPanic wrote:
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Snecma, a division of Safran, doesn't build by itself big airplanes reactors, it cooperates with US engine makers, and soon with Rolls Royce.
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That's what I said all along!

You don't even know your aircraft industry, and you want to lecture me about it!

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Oct 28, 2013
 
rio wrote:
That's what I said all along!
You don't even know your aircraft industry, and you want to lecture me about it!
You deny that Snecma, now a subdivion of Safran is fully engaged in the conception of the CFM 56 motorjet, want to ignore that the french design and produce its rotating parts, that have as equal importance as it's hot parts, willing ignore how much GE was in poor state when the 50/50 joint venture was agreed, you are willing to reduce the french a passive subcontractors, just in order to bash France.

I'm not that nationalistic sick, like Alexandre, or you, I give back to Caesar whats belongs to him and to the Brits the main part in the Concord, I know what the Concord's wings and RR turbojets, among others, how to the Avro Vulcain.
So that I admit that the Concord was quite more english than french an aircraft.
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Oct 28, 2013
 
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I admit that the Concord was quite more english than french an aircraft.
Well done!
What is so difficult to admit that?
At least you are good at cheese, that's something !!!

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rio wrote:
Well done!
What is so difficult to admit that?
Not so difficult that for you to admit that France is bigger exporter than UK and registers yearly about 20% more patents than UK
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Not so difficult that for you to admit that France is bigger exporter than UK and registers yearly about 20% more patents than UK
But why France is such a mess then?
And why the French are so over-taxed?

It looks like Britain is economically stronger than France, right now.

And I have told you about "invisible earnings" for Britain: servives, consultancies, management, know-how that we sell abroad and which bring revenue without any goods actually leaving the country.
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Not so difficult that for you to admit that France is bigger exporter than UK and registers yearly about 20% more patents than UK
I will tell you what France is better at: France has a better infrastructure than Britain, with a superior rail network and better motorways (at a cost though).
France has also better city management, better public transport, better social services, probably a better education system too. But you pay dearly for that!

But France is heavily socialised (the most in Europe), with most of its economy actually in state control, through direct ownership or exclusive contract . France is catching Scandinavia as one of the most taxed country and one where the state is omni-present.

France is one of the country with the highest employment taxes (for every £100 received by a worker, the employers pays £70 in taxes - charges sociales.) and one of the least attractive for foreign investors.
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Oct 29, 2013
 
He doesn't even know that services sold abroad are counted as exports... I don't disagree with you Rio that the french economy is far from perfect. But pleaaaase do not compare us to the uk. I have lived in the uk and I was not impressed. Compare GDP per capita of uk vs France. Uk is lower. France is more industrualisied than the uk. Sorry. As you rightly pointed out a large part of the uk economy is based on financial and consultancy services and construction. Yiu are like Cyprus basically but you have uour own currency that's what saved you I guess.
Please stop spewing garbage about the french airspace industry. We have rockets and we launch sattelites. You have nothing.
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Oct 29, 2013
 
alexandre wrote:
the french airspace industry. We have rockets and we launch sattelites.
Wrong.

There is no French airspace industry.

There is an European Airspace Agency, to which several countries contributes.
The fact that it is based in France, and uses Guyana as launching pad doesn't mean that it is French! It's a joint effort, with finances and technology shared with Germany and Britain.

For example, Russia provides many rockets to NASA, that doesn't mean that NASA is Russian!

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