Jackson lived in filth, urinated on the floor - maids

Aug 12, 2014 Full story: The New Zealand Herald 91

Michael Jackson's picturesque Neverland Ranch was a world away from the fairy-tale ideal his fans believed it to be.

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#56 Aug 22, 2014
Rickey Bobby wrote:
<quoted text> Something Lisa Marie and Debbie Rowe couldn't do.
LOL! So true.

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#57 Aug 22, 2014
Rickey Bobby wrote:
<quoted text> Something Lisa Marie and Debbie Rowe couldn't do.
And I bet all those "secret women" f'loons yap about also couldn't either.

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#58 Aug 22, 2014
Len is Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>Don't be so daft. A criminal case was beginning, after it all proved a match. But Michael paid hush money, and the child did not want to testify.

You've proven to be such a disappointment. When James Safechuck admitted he had been sexually abused, you actually began to question Michael's behavior. Then you went even further into denial.
Research helped me change my mind.
Money stopped the Chandlers from pursuing criminal charges and the photographs would have proved inaccuracies.

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#60 Friday Aug 22
goodvibrations wrote:
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Research helped me change my mind.
Money stopped the Chandlers from pursuing criminal charges and the photographs would have proved inaccuracies.
What research? From a floon website? I've read the legal documents and the court transcripts. The prosecuting attorneys, defense attorneys, and Judge Melville examined Jordan's drawing and description and the photos of Michael speckled pecker. None of them denied their were inaccuracies.

Please wake up. Defending a dead child rapist is not worth it. In fact, it's appalling.

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#61 Friday Aug 22
Correction: None of them denied the drawing and description matched the photos.

I will repost the links to the legal documents and court transcripts if I have to.

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#62 Friday Aug 22
Len is Disgusted wrote:
Correction: None of them denied the drawing and description matched the photos.
I will repost the links to the legal documents and court transcripts if I have to.
The photographs weren't a match otherwise they would have been brought up in court as vital evidence to the charges but weren't. Get it? Of course not. Ha ha ha
Octopus

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#63 Friday Aug 22
goodvibrations wrote:
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The photographs weren't a match otherwise they would have been brought up in court as vital evidence to the charges but weren't. Get it? Of course not. Ha ha ha
Tom Mesereau was never going to allow Jordan Chandler's drawings to be used in another case that had to be strictly based on Gavin Arvizo. We have told you this thousands of times.
Octopus

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#64 Friday Aug 22
goodvibrations wrote:
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The photographs weren't a match otherwise they would have been brought up in court as vital evidence to the charges but weren't. Get it? Of course not. Ha ha ha
BTW, Goodvibrations....Tom Mesereau was paid twenty million dollars for his expert lawyer skills. It was his job to look after Wacko's best interests. That means that anything about Jordan Chandler could not be legally be used as Mesereau blocked them. Gavin Arvizo was a different victim. Thomas Sneddon had to use only the evidence in that separate case.

Of course, the LAPD still have the photographs and Jordan's drawings. Since Wacko is dead, maybe Wade Robson and James Safechuck will be allowed to use them in their civil lawsuit against the estate.
Octopus

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#65 Friday Aug 22
*legally be used...

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#66 Friday Aug 22
Octopus wrote:
<quoted text>BTW, Goodvibrations....Tom Mesereau was paid twenty million dollars for his expert lawyer skills. It was his job to look after Wacko's best interests. That means that anything about Jordan Chandler could not be legally be used as Mesereau blocked them. Gavin Arvizo was a different victim. Thomas Sneddon had to use only the evidence in that separate case.

Of course, the LAPD still have the photographs and Jordan's drawings. Since Wacko is dead, maybe Wade Robson and James Safechuck will be allowed to use them in their civil lawsuit against the estate.
No I meant for the police to lay charges on behalf of Jordan. That can be done when an individual refuses to do it.
Octopus

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#67 Friday Aug 22
goodvibrations wrote:
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No I meant for the police to lay charges on behalf of Jordan. That can be done when an individual refuses to do it.
Not if Tom Mesereau blocked it. Jordan Chandler and Michael Jackson had a binding, legal contract in exchange for the settlement. That evidence could not be used.
Jessie Pinkman

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#68 Saturday Aug 23
goodvibrations wrote:
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No I meant for the police to lay charges on behalf of Jordan. That can be done when an individual refuses to do it.
Without Jordan's cooperation, convicting Michael and his powerful legal team would have proved difficult. Jordie's descriptions were so detailed and accurate, Jacko had no choice but to settle for $25 million. Had they been inaccurate, he wouldn't have had to pay a dime.
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#70 Saturday Aug 23
goodvibrations wrote:
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LMP sings this everyday and treasures the sexy memories.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =GJDdBbgJafUXX
I haven't heard/seen this song/video, so why would I open a link to it? Lisa Marie moved on with her life years ago, unlike Michael Jackson's fans who cling to a tarnished past.

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#71 Saturday Aug 23
Octopus wrote:
<quoted text>Not if Tom Mesereau blocked it. Jordan Chandler and Michael Jackson had a binding, legal contract in exchange for the settlement. That evidence could not be used.
The Chandler incident was reported to the police and Sneddon could have turned it into a criminal case on behalf of the child Jordan if there were solid grounds for prosecution. That gets done for victims that refuse to testify in serious charges.

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#72 Saturday Aug 23
Rickey Bobby wrote:
<quoted text>I haven't heard/seen this song/video, so why would I open a link to it? Lisa Marie moved on with her life years ago, unlike Michael Jackson's fans who cling to a tarnished past.
That's why she visits his grave whenever she can and talks about their close bond to the media.

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#73 Saturday Aug 23
Len is Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>Don't be so daft. A criminal case was beginning, after it all proved a match. But Michael paid hush money, and the child did not want to testify.

You've proven to be such a disappointment. When James Safechuck admitted he had been sexually abused, you actually began to question Michael's behavior. Then you went even further into denial.
There was no clause for the Chandlers to drop criminal charges after the payout. They were the ones that dropped them NOT MJ's money.

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#74 Saturday Aug 23
Jessie Pinkman wrote:
<quoted text>Without Jordan's cooperation, convicting Michael and his powerful legal team would have proved difficult. Jordie's descriptions were so detailed and accurate, Jacko had no choice but to settle for $25 million. Had they been inaccurate, he wouldn't have had to pay a dime.
That's nonsense, if their grounds had been as solid as you claim. Money and fame has never stopped celebrities from being charged and sentenced for offenses committed by them.

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#75 Saturday Aug 23
goodvibrations wrote:
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. Money and fame has never stopped celebrities from being charged and sentenced for offenses committed by them.
Tell that to the victims of OJ and Robert Blake, imbecile. You haven't a dog's clue, do you?
Octopus

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#76 Saturday Aug 23
goodvibrations wrote:
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The Chandler incident was reported to the police and Sneddon could have turned it into a criminal case on behalf of the child Jordan if there were solid grounds for prosecution. That gets done for victims that refuse to testify in serious charges.
Maybe the laws changed since 1993.

Pedophiles can no longer make settlements to their victims to keep them from testifying. That is why Wacko had no choice to go to trial in 2005 because of Gavin Arvizo.

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#77 Saturday Aug 23
goodvibrations wrote:
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The photographs weren't a match otherwise they would have been brought up in court as vital evidence to the charges but weren't. Get it? Of course not. Ha ha ha
You couldn't be more wrong. I'll give you those links to the legal documents and court transcripts you hate most.

Here is what the D.A. had to say.

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/0...

Here is Mesereau's response.

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/0...

Here is the link to the court transcripts in which the discussion took place, before the day's court session.

http://www.mjfacts.info/transcripts/Court_Tra...

Bad try. Definitely no cigar.

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