The Moors were not Black
African AE

Durban, South Africa

#21021 May 28, 2014
ANCIENT MOORS PAINTED AT THE TIME THEY WERE IN EUROPE:
www.warfare.totalh.net/Cantiga/Cantigas_de_Sa...
MODERN MOORS LOOKING EXACTLY AS THEIR ANCIENT ANCESTORS:
www.youtube.com/watch...
AND......DNA AGREES!
Kaleb B

Albuquerque, NM

#21023 Feb 4, 2015
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>THey looked EXACTLY like MODERN MOORS overwhelmingly WHITE!
North Africans are still Black people. The lighter skin people your speaking of are a Roman/Turkish people, which some have mixed with the native population. But, the region is full of Black people.
As for the Moors, the term Moor means Black. I.e.'he is as black as a Moor' or black-a-moor. Why on Earth would you think Moors were white? Strange. The lighter skin people your thinking are Moors are Turks and Marmuluks.
Kaleb B

Albuquerque, NM

#21024 Feb 4, 2015
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>WELL THIS IS AN ANCIENT SUMERIAN LOOKING EXACTLY LIKE A WHITE MAN with BLUE EYES:
www.marybennettblogs.blogspot.com/2013/09/blu...
Nowhere in the Bible DOES IT SAY THE SUMERIANS WERE BLACK!
Sumerians were white with blue eyes?....Hahahahaha.
Kaleb B

Albuquerque, NM

#21025 Feb 4, 2015
African AE wrote:
<quoted text>THey looked EXACTLY like MODERN MOORS overwhelmingly WHITE!
Haha! You whites have gotten really desperate ... Now your saying Moors and Africans were and are white. Wow. Talk about an identity crisis.

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#21026 Feb 4, 2015
Kaleb B wrote:
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Haha! You whites have gotten really desperate ... Now your saying Moors and Africans were and are white. Wow. Talk about an identity crisis.
NO, STUPID, that's NOT what he said.

http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article...

Genomic Ancestry of North Africans Supports Back-to-Africa Migrations

Brenna M. Henn,
Laura R. Botigué,
Simon Gravel,
Wei Wang,
Abra Brisbin,
Jake K. Byrnes,
Karima Fadhlaoui-Zid,
Pierre A. Zalloua,…

PLOS
x

" We characterize the patterns of genetic variation in North Africa using ~730,000 single nucleotide polymorphisms from across the genome for seven populations. We observe two distinct, opposite gradients of ancestry: an east-to-west increase in likely autochthonous North African ancestry and an east-to-west decrease in likely Near Eastern Arabic ancestry. The indigenous North African ancestry may have been more common in Berber populations and appears most closely related to populations outside of Africa, but divergence between Maghrebi peoples and Near Eastern/Europeans likely precedes the Holocene (>12,000 ya).

We also find significant signatures of sub-Saharan African ancestry that vary substantially among populations. These sub-Saharan ancestries appear to be a recent introduction into North African populations, dating to about 1,200 years ago in southern Morocco and about 750 years ago into Egypt, possibly reflecting the patterns of the trans-Saharan slave trade that occurred during this period."
Edxast

Zebulon, NC

#21027 Feb 5, 2015
XlBlackWomenLoverlX wrote:
Here let me settle this...We will let actual MOORS state their side of the story.
Al-Maqdisi [tenth century] wrote,“... As for the Zanji, they are people of black color, flat noses, kinky hair, and little understanding or intelligence.”
Ibn Khaldun(A MOOR)(d. 1406CE) added that blacks are “only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings.”
Ibn Hazam(A MOOR)(eleventh century) Wrote. "Negroes in africa neither have books, nor sciences or histories"
Berbers=Moors and there is NO DOUBT ABOUT IT
The Berbers belong to a powerful, formidable, and numerous people; a true people like so many others, the world has seen - like the Arabs, the Persians, the Greeks and the Romans.-- Ibn Khaldun(A MOOR), 14th century scholar
The only people who accept slavery are the Negroes, owing to their low degree of humanity and proximity to the animal stage. Other persons who accept the status of slave do so as a means of attaining high rank, or power, or wealth, as is the case with the Mameluke Turks in the East and with those Franks and Galicians who enter the service of the state [in Spain]-Ibn Khaldun(A MOOR), 14th century scholar
Bottom line...Afrocentrics you have been proven thieves of history.
Why don't you Afrocentrics discover more about HeadHunters, Voodoo Medicine men, construction of Dung Huts and Cannibals? I want to know more about them. Do me a favor, will ya? I promise I will not debunk what you discover. Remember you cannot debunk the truth.
Next!
Um, we all know how to used wikipedia and these quotes came off the same page! Oh and here is the link for ya: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanj

Al-J&#257;&#7717;i &#7827; also wrote a book entitled Risalat mufakharat al-Sudan 'ala al-bidan ("Treatise on the Superiority of Blacks over Whites"), in which he stated that blacks

... have conquered the country of the Arabs as far as Mecca and have governed them. We defeated Dhu Nowas (Jewish King of Yemen) and killed all the Himyarite princes, but you, White people, have never conquered our country. Our people, the Zenghs (Negroes) revolted forty times in the Euphrates, driving the inhabitants from their homes and making Oballah a bath of blood.[19]

... Blacks are physically stronger than no matter what other people. A single one of them can lift stones of greater weight and carry burdens such as several Whites could not lift nor carry between them.... They are brave, strong, and generous as witness their nobility and general lack of wickedness
BlackTsalagi

Barcelona, Spain

#21028 Feb 6, 2015
Curious Me wrote:
<quoted text>
NO, STUPID, that's NOT what he said.
http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article...
Genomic Ancestry of North Africans Supports Back-to-Africa Migrations
Brenna M. Henn,
Laura R. Botigué,
Simon Gravel,
Wei Wang,
Abra Brisbin,
Jake K. Byrnes,
Karima Fadhlaoui-Zid,
Pierre A. Zalloua,…
PLOS
x
" We characterize the patterns of genetic variation in North Africa using ~730,000 single nucleotide polymorphisms from across the genome for seven populations. We observe two distinct, opposite gradients of ancestry: an east-to-west increase in likely autochthonous North African ancestry and an east-to-west decrease in likely Near Eastern Arabic ancestry. The indigenous North African ancestry may have been more common in Berber populations and appears most closely related to populations outside of Africa, but divergence between Maghrebi peoples and Near Eastern/Europeans likely precedes the Holocene (>12,000 ya).
We also find significant signatures of sub-Saharan African ancestry that vary substantially among populations. These sub-Saharan ancestries appear to be a recent introduction into North African populations, dating to about 1,200 years ago in southern Morocco and about 750 years ago into Egypt, possibly reflecting the patterns of the trans-Saharan slave trade that occurred during this period."
Respectfully, your "organization" is faulty on several bases. I don't know what you're trying to accomplish by publishing data like this or even bringing up such a debate.
The fact is, European historical archives have factual documentation of the Moors throughout their history. How do I know this? I studied history abroad and it's a fact that even today, the fact (and yes it's a fact) that Moors were "black" is widely and openly accepted.
HOWEVER, unlike most of the "Afro-centrists" commenting, I don't believe that makes anyone "better" than anyone. Furthermore, NOT all Moors were "black". Some were "brown" and some "white".
Second: There is NOTHING "mysterious" about the Moors and their history.
Trying to trace lineage and "where people came from" through conducting genealogical surveys and studies is useless, UNLESS you add a historical basis for it.
Perhaps this thread was only started for "shock" value. It seems so.
As someone who has lived in Europe and traveled through Africa (north / south), I can say with OVER 90% certainty that the vast majority of information we receive regarding ancient civilizations outside of the U.S. is about 100% "mis-information".
Whether it's from an "Afro-centric" perspective OR a "Euro-centric" perspective.
It's like writing a title of a story, and then writing the story based on something completely different.
Moors, "black" or not "black" doesn't even really matter. If anyone wants to know, then get on a plane and GO to N. Africa / S. Europe / Mid East and there's information everywhere.

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#21029 Feb 6, 2015
Edxast wrote:
<quoted text>
Um, we all know how to used wikipedia and these quotes came off the same page! Oh and here is the link for ya: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanj
Al-J&#257;&#7717;i &#7827; also wrote a book entitled Risalat mufakharat al-Sudan 'ala al-bidan ("Treatise on the Superiority of Blacks over Whites"), in which he stated that blacks
... have conquered the country of the Arabs as far as Mecca and have governed them. We defeated Dhu Nowas (Jewish King of Yemen) and killed all the Himyarite princes, but you, White people, have never conquered our country. Our people, the Zenghs (Negroes) revolted forty times in the Euphrates, driving the inhabitants from their homes and making Oballah a bath of blood.[19]
... Blacks are physically stronger than no matter what other people. A single one of them can lift stones of greater weight and carry burdens such as several Whites could not lift nor carry between them.... They are brave, strong, and generous as witness their nobility and general lack of wickedness
Why are the champion weightlifters nearly all white?

"Blacks", so-called, are great people but don't get carried away.

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#21030 Feb 6, 2015
BlackTsalagi wrote:
<quoted text>
Respectfully, your "organization" is faulty on several bases. I don't know what you're trying to accomplish by publishing data like this or even bringing up such a debate.
The fact is, European historical archives have factual documentation of the Moors throughout their history. How do I know this? I studied history abroad and it's a fact that even today, the fact (and yes it's a fact) that Moors were "black" is widely and openly accepted.
You gave yourself a faulty fool-ass pseudo-education, poor fellow, and I have to laugh at you.

You'll lose your put on nice guy act when you realize that I can easily squash your delusional fantasies.

Apparently, you have yet to figure out what constitutes being an actual "eyewitness".

An "EYEWITNESS" report is either a verbal or pictorial record legitimately authored by someone who was actually IN or FROM the site in question, at the actual TIME in question, and within view of the Peoples or things in question.

Shakespeare was none of that, and, anyway, you've completely misinterpreted what he actually meant.

Stories like "The Song of Roland" were fantasy novels and the real antagonists were NOT 'Black' but Basque.

"The Song of Roland" was a fabrication meant to anger Europeans about supposed 'Black' Ethiopian Muslims having attacked the Holy Roman Emperor's military entourage, in order to boost support for the Pope's desire to send Crusaders to defend the Holy Land."The Song of Roland" was fiction.

***

The real "EYEWITNESSES" did exist, but NONE of their reporting supports your fantasies.

http://www.angelfire.com/md/8/moors.html

1.) Illustrations from Cantigas de Santa Maria, 13th century, reign of Alfonso X

2.) Alphonso X's Book of Games, 13th century

3.) Illustrations from the Tale of Bayad and Riyad, Islamic Spain, early 13th century

4.) Pyxis of al-Mughira, Cordoba, 968 AD

5.) Hispano-Arabic Casket, Pamplona, 1004-1005 AD

6.) The Skylitzes Chronicle

7.) Grandes Chroniques de France de Charles V (1370-1380)

...and what about textual references?

Certain sites on the web ballyhoo examples of indigenous North African peoples being described as "black" by certain medieval Arab and European sources, while omitting other sources that distinguish them from "black," or even call them "white." A commonly overlooked fact is that "black" and "white" are culturally dependent terms which, in earlier times, sometimes meant "dark-complexioned" or "light-complexioned" rather than the strict racial definition in common use today.

8.) According to the anthropologist Peter Frost:
"This older, more relative sense has been noted in other culture areas. The Japanese once used the terms shiroi (white) and kuroi (black) to describe their skin and its gradations of color. The Ibos of Nigeria employed ocha (white) and ojii (black) in the same way, so that nwoko ocha (white man) simply meant an Ibo with a lighter complexion. In French Canada, the older generation still refers to a swarthy Canadien as noir (black). Vestiges of this older usage persist in family names. Mr. White, Mr. Brown, and Mr. Black were individuals within the normal color spectrum of English people. Ditto for Leblanc, Lebrun, and Lenoir among the French or Weiss and Schwartz among the Germans."1

9.) "Another example of this usage comes from Joseph ben Nathan of 13th century Europe who quoted his father as saying "we Jews come from a pure, white source, and so our faces are black."2 Of course Jews weren't black African, as medieval manuscripts show them looking little different from Europeans."

<continued in my following Post>

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#21031 Feb 6, 2015
CONTINUATION from my previous Post:

10.) "Old Arab descriptions of "blacks" also reveal that what they meant by "black" is not necessarily what we understand it to mean today. Some medieval Arab writers such as al-Jahiz applied the term "blacks" to practically all peoples darker than the average Arab, and "whites" to peoples lighter than the norm:

"The blacks are more numerous than the whites. The whites at most consist of the people of Persia, Jibal, and Khurasan, the Greeks, Slavs, Franks, and Avars, and some few others, not very numerous; the blacks include the Zanj, Ethiopians, the people of Fazzan, the Berbers, the Copts, and Nubians, the people of Zaghawa, Marw, Sind and India, Qamar and Dabila, China, and Masin... the islands in the seas between China and Africa are full of blacks, such as Ceylon, Kalah, Amal, Zabij, and their islands, as far as India, China, Kabul, and those shores."3

Jahiz's inclusion of Indians, Sindhi, and Chinese as "blacks" reinforces the point that color terms taken out of their cultural contexts are too ambiguous to determine the physical characteristics of peoples with much accuracy. One Afrocentric web page offered an opinion that Jahiz was only referring to minority Negroíd[Negrito] tribes in India or China, not to the population at large. But then, couldn't the same be said about his descriptions of North Africa?

It bears mention that the term Sudan ("Black") in classical Arabic usage did not usually encompass such a broad range of peoples. In fact the Arabic term Bilad al-Sudan ("lands of the Blacks") denoted the whole area of Africa south of the Sahara desert -- from the Atlantic Ocean in the West to the Red Sea and Indian Ocean in the East -- but did not normally include Egypt or the Maghrib (Northwest Africa).4"

11.) "The 14th century historian Ibn Khaldun divided the known world from the equator to the northernmost lands into seven zones, by climate, south to north. The zones in the middle -- the third, fourth and fifth zones -- were the temperate ones. He wrote:

"The human inhabitants of these zones are more temperate in their bodies, color, character qualities... Such are the inhabitants of the Maghrib, of Syria, the two 'Iraqs, Western India, and China, as well as of Spain; also the European Christians nearby, the Galicians, and all those who live together with these peoples or near them in the three temperate zones."5

Later he goes on to write that "the inhabitants of the first and second zones in the south are called the Abyssinians, the Zanj, and the Sudanese. These are synonyms used to designate the particular nation that has turned black."6 So it is clear that in his view the people of North Africa are not black; the people to the south of them are. Ibn Khaldun, unlike some Arab writers, was himself a Maghribi and thus was presumably familiar with what people looked like in that region."

<continued in my following Post>

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#21032 Feb 6, 2015
CONTINUATION from my previous Post:

12.) "The Tunisian traveler Ibn Battuta specified a boundary of the Black lands when he wrote "We then arrived at the town of Iwalatan... Iwalatan is the northernmost province of the Blacks."7 Iwalatan, presently Walata/Oualata near the southeast corner of Mauritania, sits near the southern limit of the Sahara desert. The lands north of that, which make up the main bulk of Berber territory, were not counted by Ibn Battuta as among the black lands.

In the course of his travels, he observed a notably pale Berber tribe which he described as follows:

"At length we arrived among the Bardama. They are a Berber tribe.[...] The Bardama women are the most perfect in beauty, most remarkable in their appearance, of the purest white in their complexion and very fat."8

13.) "The writer al-'Umari counted even the southernmost Berber tribes as white:

"In the north of the country of Mali, there are Berber tribes who are white and are under [the Sultan of Mali's] dominion .... They are: the Yatansir, the Shagharasan, the Maddusa and the Lamtuna."9

and,

"The country of the Blacks also contains three independent kings, white Muslims, belonging to the Berber race: the sultan of Aïr, the sultan of Damushuh and the sultan of Tadmakka. These three white Muslim kings are in the southwest area ranging between the Barr al 'Adwa, empire of the sultan Abu l-Hasan, and the country of Mali and its dependencies."10

14.) "A source of misunderstanding about the identity of "Moors" in Europe is the Frankish epic Song of Roland, in which a contingent of one of the Saracen armies is described as "black as pitch" and "broad in the nose." But this shouldn't be too surprising, considering that the army included Ethiopians:

But what avail? Though fled be Marsilies,
He's left behind his uncle, the alcaliph
Who holds Alferne, Kartagene, Garmalie,
And Ethiope, a cursed land indeed;
The blackamoors from there are in his keep,
Broad in the nose they are and flat in the ear,
Fifty thousand and more in company...."11

15.)***On the claim that the North African "Moors" used to resemble equatorial Africans before and during the Islamic occupation of Europe, and that the ethnic/racial changes came later***

"Highly unlikely -- see the numerous coinage portraits of North African rulers centuries before the Islamic conquest. Furthermore, the Phoenicians, Romans, Vandals, and the initial wave of Arabs all came before the penetration of Islam into Europe, not after. So the adherents of the Black Moors theory face a terrible paradox: they have to maintain that the Islamic-era immigration to North Africa drastically altered the racial makeup of the Berbers/Moors, while simultaneously denying that the pre-Islam immigration of the Phoenicians, Romans, Vandals, and the initial waves of Arabs made any significant genetic impact at all. It makes no sense.

And if there was any significant genetic change in Northwest Africa from the Arab conquest to the present, there is no reason to assume that the population lightened or became more "Caucasian" during that time. In fact the trans-Saharan slave trade and immigration from the lands south of the Sahara, continuing up to very recent times, may have had just as much (or more) genetic impact as any European or Arab immigration; although this would be difficult to verify one way or the other."

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#21033 Feb 6, 2015
LOL!!! Good job, Curious.

Afronazis punked & debunked all OVER the damned place!
BlackTsalagi

Barcelona, Spain

#21034 Feb 13, 2015
Curious Me wrote:
CONTINUATION from my previous Post:
12.) "The Tunisian traveler Ibn Battuta specified a boundary of the Black lands when he wrote "We then arrived at the town of Iwalatan... Iwalatan is the northernmost province of the Blacks."7 Iwalatan, presently Walata/Oualata near the southeast corner of Mauritania, sits near the southern limit of the Sahara desert. The lands north of that, which make up the main bulk of Berber territory, were not counted by Ibn Battuta as among the black lands.
In the course of his travels, he observed a notably pale Berber tribe which he described as follows:
"At length we arrived among the Bardama. They are a Berber tribe.[...] The Bardama women are the most perfect in beauty, most remarkable in their appearance, of the purest white in their complexion and very fat."8
13.) "The writer al-'Umari counted even the southernmost Berber tribes as white:
"In the north of the country of Mali, there are Berber tribes who are white and are under [the Sultan of Mali's] dominion .... They are: the Yatansir, the Shagharasan, the Maddusa and the Lamtuna."9
and,
"The country of the Blacks also contains three independent kings, white Muslims, belonging to the Berber race: the sultan of Aïr, the sultan of Damushuh and the sultan of Tadmakka. These three white Muslim kings are in the southwest area ranging between the Barr al 'Adwa, empire of the sultan Abu l-Hasan, and the country of Mali and its dependencies."10
14.) "A source of misunderstanding about the identity of "Moors" in Europe is the Frankish epic Song of Roland, in which a contingent of one of the Saracen armies is described as "black as pitch" and "broad in the nose." But this shouldn't be too surprising, considering that the army included Ethiopians:
But what avail? Though fled be Marsilies,
He's left behind his uncle, the alcaliph
Who holds Alferne, Kartagene, Garmalie,
And Ethiope, a cursed land indeed;
The blackamoors from there are in his keep,
Broad in the nose they are and flat in the ear,
Fifty thousand and more in company...."11
15.)***On the claim that the North African "Moors" used to resemble equatorial Africans before and during the Islamic occupation of Europe, and that the ethnic/racial changes came later***
"Highly unlikely -- see the numerous coinage portraits of North African rulers centuries before the Islamic conquest. Furthermore, the Phoenicians, Romans, Vandals, and the initial wave of Arabs all came before the penetration of Islam into Europe, not after. So the adherents of the Black Moors theory face a terrible paradox: they have to maintain that the Islamic-era immigration to North Africa drastically altered the racial makeup of the Berbers/Moors, while simultaneously denying that the pre-Islam immigration of the Phoenicians, Romans, Vandals, and the initial waves of Arabs made any significant genetic impact at all. It makes no sense.
And if there was any significant genetic change in Northwest Africa from the Arab conquest to the present, there is no reason to assume that the population lightened or became more "Caucasian" during that time. In fact the trans-Saharan slave trade and immigration from the lands south of the Sahara, continuing up to very recent times, may have had just as much (or more) genetic impact as any European or Arab immigration; although this would be difficult to verify one way or the other."
You start you post trying to insult me.
I have no intention doing that with you.
I happen to live in Europe and worked in North and West Africa.
Do as much "reading" as you want. It will never ever replace actually being in those countries / regions and studying there.
Get a passport and live abroad for a few years, open your eyes.
Good luck.
BlackTsalagi

Barcelona, Spain

#21035 Feb 13, 2015
Curious Me wrote:
CONTINUATION from my previous Post:
12.) "The Tunisian traveler Ibn Battuta specified a boundary of the Black lands when he wrote "We then arrived at the town of Iwalatan... Iwalatan is the northernmost province of the Blacks."7 Iwalatan, presently Walata/Oualata near the southeast corner of Mauritania, sits near the southern limit of the Sahara desert. The lands north of that, which make up the main bulk of Berber territory, were not counted by Ibn Battuta as among the black lands.
In the course of his travels, he observed a notably pale Berber tribe which he described as follows:
"At length we arrived among the Bardama. They are a Berber tribe.[...] The Bardama women are the most perfect in beauty, most remarkable in their appearance, of the purest white in their complexion and very fat."8
13.) "The writer al-'Umari counted even the southernmost Berber tribes as white:
"In the north of the country of Mali, there are Berber tribes who are white and are under [the Sultan of Mali's] dominion .... They are: the Yatansir, the Shagharasan, the Maddusa and the Lamtuna."9
and,
"The country of the Blacks also contains three independent kings, white Muslims, belonging to the Berber race: the sultan of Aïr, the sultan of Damushuh and the sultan of Tadmakka. These three white Muslim kings are in the southwest area ranging between the Barr al 'Adwa, empire of the sultan Abu l-Hasan, and the country of Mali and its dependencies."10
14.) "A source of misunderstanding about the identity of "Moors" in Europe is the Frankish epic Song of Roland, in which a contingent of one of the Saracen armies is described as "black as pitch" and "broad in the nose." But this shouldn't be too surprising, considering that the army included Ethiopians:
But what avail? Though fled be Marsilies,
He's left behind his uncle, the alcaliph
Who holds Alferne, Kartagene, Garmalie,
And Ethiope, a cursed land indeed;
The blackamoors from there are in his keep,
Broad in the nose they are and flat in the ear,
Fifty thousand and more in company...."11
15.)***On the claim that the North African "Moors" used to resemble equatorial Africans before and during the Islamic occupation of Europe, and that the ethnic/racial changes came later***
"Highly unlikely -- see the numerous coinage portraits of North African rulers centuries before the Islamic conquest. Furthermore, the Phoenicians, Romans, Vandals, and the initial wave of Arabs all came before the penetration of Islam into Europe, not after. So the adherents of the Black Moors theory face a terrible paradox: they have to maintain that the Islamic-era immigration to North Africa drastically altered the racial makeup of the Berbers/Moors, while simultaneously denying that the pre-Islam immigration of the Phoenicians, Romans, Vandals, and the initial waves of Arabs made any significant genetic impact at all. It makes no sense.
And if there was any significant genetic change in Northwest Africa from the Arab conquest to the present, there is no reason to assume that the population lightened or became more "Caucasian" during that time. In fact the trans-Saharan slave trade and immigration from the lands south of the Sahara, continuing up to very recent times, may have had just as much (or more) genetic impact as any European or Arab immigration; although this would be difficult to verify one way or the other."
How's this for my "nice guy" act?
I can see why Africans are embarrassed about "African Americans" and why Europeans are embarrassed by "White Americans" now. lol!!!
I'm so honored that I occupy NEITHER of those "races". Whew!!
Have fun with that one.
BlackTsalagi

Barcelona, Spain

#21036 Feb 13, 2015
Don Barros Serrano wrote:
LOL!!! Good job, Curious.
Afronazis punked & debunked all OVER the damned place!
LOL! Perhaps!
Fortunately, I'm neither "black" or "white" and at least I'm not a normal racist "nazi" like you seem to be.:-) Although you hide it well.
Strawman??? Perhaps??

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#21037 Feb 13, 2015
BlackTsalagi wrote:
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LOL! Perhaps!
Fortunately, I'm neither "black" or "white" and at least I'm not a normal racist "nazi" like you seem to be.:-) Although you hide it well.
Strawman??? Perhaps??
F U, boy.

I'm 0% racist. I am also neither white Yank nor black Yank. Never mind just WHAT I am.

I'll jump any racist in here, black white or other.

You are Cherokee for real? I've had some Cherokee witches come after me with nasty spells, but
I punked & debunked them as well! Ha ha...

But I won't hold that against you.

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#21038 Feb 13, 2015
BlackTsalagi wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL! Perhaps!
Fortunately, I'm neither "black" or "white" and at least I'm not a normal racist "nazi" like you seem to be.:-) Although you hide it well.
Strawman??? Perhaps??
You are nothing but an ignorant transparent lying DUMB ASS.

If you are NOT lying and what you speak of are your honest observations, then you are truly an IDIOT.

You come onto this thread and comically boast of yourself as being a so-called expert eye-witness and you are obviously NO SUCH THING.

If what Barros says of you is true, that you are a Cherokee, then all I can say is that every single U.S. American Indian with whom I have EVER come into contact has proven him or herself to be a blithering IDIOT and all that would mean concerning YOUR dumb ass is that YOU WOULD MOST CERTAINLY NOT BE A DISAPPOINTMENT, FOOL.

I AM ALSO ALWAYS SURPRISED TO REDISCOVER THAT I HAVE NO REASON TO NECESSARILY HAVE THE SAME DIM VIEW OF NATIVE AMERICANS WHO ORIGINATE FROM EITHER NORTH OR SOUTH OF THE BORDER.

I'M NOT SAYIN' ALL U.S. AMERICAN INDIANS ARE IDIOTS, I JUST HAVEN'T MET THE ONES THAT AREN'T AND I GREW UP IN 'INJUN' COUNTRY.

MOST LIKELY, YOU ARE NOT REALLY 'CHEROKEE' BUT MERELY ONE OF THOSE AFRICAN-AMERICAN YAHOOS THAT SIMPLY WANTS TO 'THINK' HE IS, JUST SO HE CAN FEEL ~SPECIAL~, WHEN WHAT YOU REALLY ARE IS ONLY SOMEONE WHO IS IN NEED OF ~SPECIAL-EDUCATION~.

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#21039 Feb 13, 2015
Pardon my error...I meant north of the Northern Border or south of the Southern Border.

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#21040 Feb 13, 2015
Curious Me wrote:
Pardon my error...I meant north of the Northern Border or south of the Southern Border.
It's the Yankification problem...

I guessed he's Cherokee because in their language it is said Tsalagi. In California the NA call them “Cherokies”. I do know that the Tsalagi are vicious sorcerers, always trying to F with people with spells.

I like NA, in the U$A especially Lakota and Dine (Navajo), but most of my contact with them has been with those from Mexico or Guatemala.

Like the black Yanks in here think I hate black people... but no... I like Africans just fine, ha ha.
BlackTsalagi

Barcelona, Spain

#21041 Feb 20, 2015
Don Barros Serrano wrote:
<quoted text>
F U, boy.
I'm 0% racist. I am also neither white Yank nor black Yank. Never mind just WHAT I am.
I'll jump any racist in here, black white or other.
You are Cherokee for real? I've had some Cherokee witches come after me with nasty spells, but
I punked & debunked them as well! Ha ha...
But I won't hold that against you.
Seriously?! "FU boy" really?!
I see, I thought I was interacting with an "intelligent" person for a moment. My mistake. LOL
FYI: Your language is (the words you use are) what we call "text book racist" or simply un-educated. You decide.
You can quote other people's travels but you have done none. Until you get a passport and use it, you will never experience the world as I have. You'll need at least 20 more years and learn a few more languages. Until than, enjoy your "book bubble".
Hey, at least you read....
Go in peace.

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