The Moors were not Black
Isa

Amesbury, MA

#20996 Jan 28, 2014
The Moorish culture in Spain (Arabs!) was highly advanced and not similar to the one of the Sub Saharan region. Regardless of the darkness of skin, the Moors brought advanced math and technology to Christian and Jewish southern Spain.

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#20997 Jan 28, 2014
Terrance wrote:
Your beloved america will fall soon
You're duped.

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#20998 Jan 28, 2014
Isa wrote:
The Moorish culture in Spain (Arabs!) was highly advanced and not similar to the one of the Sub Saharan region. Regardless of the darkness of skin, the Moors brought advanced math and technology to Christian and Jewish southern Spain.
I concur, however what happened to them?

I have Spain winning the World Cup too!!!!

Perhaps there are some Moor descendants on Spain's national team.
Isa

Amesbury, MA

#20999 Jan 28, 2014
There are absolutely Moorish descendants on Spain's national team!
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
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I concur, however what happened to them?
I have Spain winning the World Cup too!!!!
Perhaps there are some Moor descendants on Spain's national team.

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#21000 Jan 28, 2014
Isa wrote:
<quoted text>There are absolutely Moorish descendants on Spain's national team!
Can you name them?
moorswerewhite

Columbia, SC

#21001 Jan 28, 2014
AfricanPride wrote:
<quoted text>
This joker is back trying very hard again to push his Eurocentric babble.
LMBFAO @
"FYI, the 'E1b1b' East Africans, such as the Kush, Ethiopians, and Somalis are more connected genetically to Eurasians, than they are to Sub-Saharan/West Africans."
bwahahahahahaha.....
I told these clowns are now pushing hard to reclassify what is really Black because they just can't take Egypt and North East Africa out of Black Africa no matter how hard they try.
Look at the people of ancient Iraq http://mrstreit.webs.com/6thgrade.htm Look pretty white to me. King Hammurabi was white and even used the term Black to describe people in his text.Honestly there is no shame it this for all men because we all follow his laws. We have for over over 5000 years
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#21002 Jan 29, 2014
Curious Me wrote:
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Where do I start!?
Oh, yeah, the Sumerians were NOT "Dravidian looking" and they were of Indo-European origin too.
Protest that all you want, but first, prove that they were Dravidian as you so insidiously implied, not that even Dravidians didn't also make great early ancient advancements in civilization, of course.
Everything you say is mired in pure racist intent búllshít.
::YOU CANNOT BE 'BLACK' AND BE ANTI-RACIST AT THE SAME TIME::
•••
I certainly do (((NOT))) consider any "FULANI" to be Caucasian but, in fact, some people from Beja do have so much Arab blood that they certainly resemble Arabs and I don't give one tiny flying fúçk about your absurd "Stockholm Syndrome" derived adherence to any foolish "ONE DROP" rule, NUMBY.
••••
As also for the rest of your insane drivel of an excuse for intelligent comment,
it's just still more completely unsupportable rhetorical diatribe.
•••
Caucasians, whether of European or non-European origin, are still more closely related to each other than opposite spectrum members of the 'E'Y-Hg and yet Caucasians are represented in MANY Y-Hg's, not just one.
That is a fact which apparently must stick in your craw,
but it is none the less true.
You have it completely reversed and it's not at all surprising that you would because you are 'Black' and therefore a racist with racist intent.
The completely overwhelming amount of even just median intelligent People of European origin do give complete credit to the ancient cultures of Asia as being the creative impetus to their civilization.
Since you asinine 'Blacks', who are inextricably racist, want desperately to somehow claim the accomplishments of those same Asian entities, you're attempting to create an artificial controversy where there could never actually be one.
I am a Mediterranean and I am in fact not quite so genetically distanced from any other autochthanous Mediterranean or even any Middle Easterner, for that matter.
Absurd statements to the contrary, on yours or the part of anyone else, are nothing more than pure racist intent búllshít.
Um....the Sumerians portrayed themselves AS WHITE WITH BLUE EYES! Afronazi whacked again!!!!!!!!!!
www.arthistoryworlds.org/sculpture-from-sumer...
African AE

Cape Town, South Africa

#21003 Jan 29, 2014
Terrance wrote:
The moors were of african descent not europe get your facts straight all of these lies. Tell the truth about how caucasans were savaged uncivilized and were cave dwellers who lived amoungst the animals with no pigments in there skin to protect them from the sun. How were moors when they couldnt survive in those year round hot climates
Absolutely RIGHT, the Moors were of NORTH AFRICAN origin looking exactly like these modern Moors of Morocco:
www.youtube.com/watch...

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#21004 Feb 25, 2014
Moors looked nothing like the British hybrids you see today in north africa! Post three different paintings from three different time periods i ll match it!

“DANGER!!”

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#21005 Mar 17, 2014
PHARAOHXI wrote:
Moors looked nothing like the British hybrids you see today in north africa! Post three different paintings from three different time periods i ll match it!
You won't "match" a fúçking thing, YOU DÚMB ÁSS CØÇKSÚÇKING SØNNAVA BÍTÇH.

The ancient Egyptians portrayed the Berbers as light skinned Caucasians.

The ancient Romans portrayed the Berbers as light skinned Caucasians.

The 13th Century Spanish Cantigas de Santa Maria portrayed the Berbers as light skinned Caucasians, with the exception of some minor 'Black' slave conscripts.

***•••

The ONLY thing that you will be able to foolishly offer is an unimpressive incidental 13th Century portrait of some 'House Negro' officers playing chess...HAH, BIG DEAL.

Perhaps, maybe, you'd like to show us some búllshít 19th Century Orientalist Fantasy nonsense too, huh!?
omgthisissooooof unny

Columbia, SC

#21006 Mar 26, 2014
PHARAOHXI wrote:
Moors looked nothing like the British hybrids you see today in north africa! Post three different paintings from three different time periods i ll match it!
It doesn't matter. What matters is the (REAL) art they left. Memories and a people that share a spirit. Have you ever been there? Or Spain? Not trying to be rude just asking. Sometimes it is best to visit these place and discover for your ownself. The influance of the MOOR culture still lives there today. Their art is still shown.
omgthisissooooof unny

Columbia, SC

#21007 Mar 26, 2014
Ahh I would love to visit the canary Islands.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Tourism-g187466-Ca...


Perhaps soon
omgthisissooooof unny

Columbia, SC

#21008 Mar 26, 2014
They were a mix when they invaded. But on the other hand perhaps you could claim French Montana for...lets say...rihanna? Tell you what we will claim rihanna but you keep FM. Deal?
omgthisissooooof unny

Columbia, SC

#21009 Mar 26, 2014
Real funny how these topics came up when French Montana got a record deal LOL. Me thinks they started a fire to flame that dudes career.

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Since: Sep 12

Congo, The Democratic Republic of the

#21010 Mar 26, 2014
omgthisissooooofunny said

It doesn't matter. What matters is the (REAL) art they left. Memories and a people that share a spirit. Have you ever been there? Or Spain? Not trying to be rude just asking. Sometimes it is best to visit these place and discover for your ownself. The influance of the MOOR culture still lives there today. Their art is still shown.

KiloEcho replies

What matters to us is the etymology of the word moor and its racial connotation for dark or black skinned people in Europe LONG BEFORE the advent of Islam and the Arabo-Berber conquest of Spain.

Whitewashing the Moors into non Black Arabs or Berbers of Muslim faith in Spain is a Euro-centric tactic dating back to 18C Europe at the height of scientific racism and European imperialism/colonialism.

There were Moors long before there were any Muslims or Arabs conquerors in Africa.

Hence, the long list of Moorish saints like the following people:

Saint Zeno, the Moor;
Saint Victor, the Moor;
Saint Corbineus, the Moor;
Saint Maurice, the black skinned Patron Saint of the Holy Roman Empire;
Saint Gregory, the Moor
Saint Maurus.
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http://bridgingcultures.neh.gov/muslimjourney...

Moors' from Oxford Islamic Studies Online

ABOUT THIS RESOURCE

This article explains the term "Moor" as background to Menocal's Ornament of the World and Maalouf's Leo Africanus.

The article by David Assouline, a French national, is reprinted from The Oxford Encyclopedia of the Islamic World in the Oxford Islamic Studies Online.

ORIGIN AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE TERM.

The origins of the term remain elusive. Its derivation from the Semitic etymon mahourím,“people of the West,” is questionable, and the Arabic al-Mar is extremely rare and does not occur in Andalusi Arabic sources.

Mauroi is late Greek and may have been derived from the Latin ethnic name Mauri, both meaning “dark ones.”

Following the destruction of Carthage in 146 B.C.E., the term mauri was used to indicate the tribes inhabiting the Roman provinces of Mauretania, corresponding to modern-day western Algeria and northeastern Morocco.

In the Latin Middle Ages, Mauri referred to a mixture of Berbers and Arabs inhabiting the coastal regions of Northwest Africa. In Spain, Portugal, and Italy, Mauri became Moros (Maures in French).

More commonly, HOWEVER, it was a RACIAL DESIGNATION FOR DARK-SKINNED OR BLACK PEOPLES, as in its English usage, which is seen as early as the fourteenth century.
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http://www.etymonline.com/index.php...
Moor (n.)

"North African, Berber," late 14c., from O.Fr. More, from M.L. Morus, from L. Maurus "inhabitant of Mauritania" (northwest Africa, a region now corresponding to northern Algeria and Morocco), from Gk. Mauros, perhaps a native name, or else cognate with mauros "black".

BEING A DARK PEOPLE IN RELATION TO EUROPEANS, THEIR NAME IN THE MIDDLE AGES WAS A SYNONYM FOR NEGRO;"

LATER (16c.-17c.) used indiscriminately of Muslims (Persians, Arabs, etc.) but especially those in India.
Maxwell

United States

#21011 Mar 26, 2014
The Moors were black as coal, black as night, nothing white about them but their teeth.

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#21012 Mar 26, 2014
KiloEcho wrote:
omgthisissooooofunny said
It doesn't matter. What matters is the (REAL) art they left. Memories and a people that share a spirit. Have you ever been there? Or Spain? Not trying to be rude just asking. Sometimes it is best to visit these place and discover for your ownself. The influance of the MOOR culture still lives there today. Their art is still shown.
KiloEcho replies
What matters to us is the etymology of the word moor and its racial connotation for dark or black skinned people in Europe LONG BEFORE the advent of Islam and the Arabo-Berber conquest of Spain.
Whitewashing the Moors into non Black Arabs or Berbers of Muslim faith in Spain is a Euro-centric tactic dating back to 18C Europe at the height of scientific racism and European imperialism/colonialism.
There were Moors long before there were any Muslims or Arabs conquerors in Africa.
Hence, the long list of Moorish saints like the following people:
Saint Zeno, the Moor;
Saint Victor, the Moor;
Saint Corbineus, the Moor;
Saint Maurice, the black skinned Patron Saint of the Holy Roman Empire;
Saint Gregory, the Moor
Saint Maurus.
----------
http://bridgingcultures.neh.gov/muslimjourney...
Moors' from Oxford Islamic Studies Online
ABOUT THIS RESOURCE
This article explains the term "Moor" as background to Menocal's Ornament of the World and Maalouf's Leo Africanus.
The article by David Assouline, a French national, is reprinted from The Oxford Encyclopedia of the Islamic World in the Oxford Islamic Studies Online.
ORIGIN AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE TERM.
The origins of the term remain elusive. Its derivation from the Semitic etymon mahourím,“people of the West,” is questionable, and the Arabic al-Mar is extremely rare and does not occur in Andalusi Arabic sources.
Mauroi is late Greek and may have been derived from the Latin ethnic name Mauri, both meaning “dark ones.”
Following the destruction of Carthage in 146 B.C.E., the term mauri was used to indicate the tribes inhabiting the Roman provinces of Mauretania, corresponding to modern-day western Algeria and northeastern Morocco.
In the Latin Middle Ages, Mauri referred to a mixture of Berbers and Arabs inhabiting the coastal regions of Northwest Africa. In Spain, Portugal, and Italy, Mauri became Moros (Maures in French).
More commonly, HOWEVER, it was a RACIAL DESIGNATION FOR DARK-SKINNED OR BLACK PEOPLES, as in its English usage, which is seen as early as the fourteenth century.
----------
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php...
Moor (n.)
"North African, Berber," late 14c., from O.Fr. More, from M.L. Morus, from L. Maurus "inhabitant of Mauritania" (northwest Africa, a region now corresponding to northern Algeria and Morocco), from Gk. Mauros, perhaps a native name, or else cognate with mauros "black".
BEING A DARK PEOPLE IN RELATION TO EUROPEANS, THEIR NAME IN THE MIDDLE AGES WAS A SYNONYM FOR NEGRO;"
LATER (16c.-17c.) used indiscriminately of Muslims (Persians, Arabs, etc.) but especially those in India.
St James the Moors slayer.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_igJNUYdOldQ/TAOZamQ...

where the brothas at?
omgthisissooooof unny

Columbia, SC

#21013 Mar 26, 2014
KiloEcho wrote:
omgthisissooooofunny said
It doesn't matter. What matters is the (REAL) art they left. Memories and a people that share a spirit. Have you ever been there? Or Spain? Not trying to be rude just asking. Sometimes it is best to visit these place and discover for your ownself. The influance of the MOOR culture still lives there today. Their art is still shown.
KiloEcho replies
What matters to us is the etymology of the word moor and its racial connotation for dark or black skinned people in Europe LONG BEFORE the advent of Islam and the Arabo-Berber conquest of Spain.
Whitewashing the Moors into non Black Arabs or Berbers of Muslim faith in Spain is a Euro-centric tactic dating back to 18C Europe at the height of scientific racism and European imperialism/colonialism.
There were Moors long before there were any Muslims or Arabs conquerors in Africa.
Hence, the long list of Moorish saints like the following people:
Saint Zeno, the Moor;
Saint Victor, the Moor;
Saint Corbineus, the Moor;
Saint Maurice, the black skinned Patron Saint of the Holy Roman Empire;
Saint Gregory, the Moor
Saint Maurus.
----------
http://bridgingcultures.neh.gov/muslimjourney...
Moors' from Oxford Islamic Studies Online
ABOUT THIS RESOURCE
This article explains the term "Moor" as background to Menocal's Ornament of the World and Maalouf's Leo Africanus.
The article by David Assouline, a French national, is reprinted from The Oxford Encyclopedia of the Islamic World in the Oxford Islamic Studies Online.
ORIGIN AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE TERM.
The origins of the term remain elusive. Its derivation from the Semitic etymon mahourím,“people of the West,” is questionable, and the Arabic al-Mar is extremely rare and does not occur in Andalusi Arabic sources.
Mauroi is late Greek and may have been derived from the Latin ethnic name Mauri, both meaning “dark ones.”
Following the destruction of Carthage in 146 B.C.E., the term mauri was used to indicate the tribes inhabiting the Roman provinces of Mauretania, corresponding to modern-day western Algeria and northeastern Morocco.
In the Latin Middle Ages, Mauri referred to a mixture of Berbers and Arabs inhabiting the coastal regions of Northwest Africa. In Spain, Portugal, and Italy, Mauri became Moros (Maures in French).
More commonly, HOWEVER, it was a RACIAL DESIGNATION FOR DARK-SKINNED OR BLACK PEOPLES, as in its English usage, which is seen as early as the fourteenth century.
----------
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php...
Moor (n.)
"North African, Berber," late 14c., from O.Fr. More, from M.L. Morus, from L. Maurus "inhabitant of Mauritania" (northwest Africa, a region now corresponding to northern Algeria and Morocco), from Gk. Mauros, perhaps a native name, or else cognate with mauros "black".
BEING A DARK PEOPLE IN RELATION TO EUROPEANS, THEIR NAME IN THE MIDDLE AGES WAS A SYNONYM FOR NEGRO;"
LATER (16c.-17c.) used indiscriminately of Muslims (Persians, Arabs, etc.) but especially those in India.
I used to think the skin tone mattered. Then I thought why should it? If that is the way you see it and it causes no real harm then so be it. Piece be with you.
omgthisissooooof unny

Columbia, SC

#21014 Mar 26, 2014
Maxwell wrote:
The Moors were black as coal, black as night, nothing white about them but their teeth.
Would you pull your teeth out because they are (to white)? LOL kidding. But know their were many others too. I doubt back then they deny their brothers the way they do know. Take care and have a lovely day
joy

Elk Grove, CA

#21016 Mar 30, 2014
Ish Gebor wrote:
<quoted text>lol
know you have a wrong understanding the white race lack the d n a go and study a little more and except it no argument.

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